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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au> on 2002/11/13 11:19:57 UTC

doc that warns about known future changes

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> >>Steven Noels wrote:
> >>
> >>> So who is supposed now to clean up the existing 
> >>> src/resources/library/xslt mess?
> >>
> >> Are you volunteering?
> > 
> > Nope.
> > 
> > And I'll feel bad if David has to play housemaid once again.
> > 
> > Let's make this a rule: if you break stuff or add new things which make 
> > existing things obsolete, you have to provide a migration path or clean 
> > up yourself.
> 
> With the convert stuff I haven't broken anything, and have followed IIUC 
> David's suggestion.
> 
> 
> David Crossley wrote:
> [...]
>  > so it seems better to me to have src/resources/convert
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>  > with type-specific sub-dirs to hold all of their resources,
>  > e.g. /maven/*.xsl, /maven/build.xml, etc.). Otherwise
>  > we will need strange filenames to distinguish each.
> 
> Do you read the mails? :-|
> 
> There is no migration path, they are simply different things.
> Eventually we will use that instead of what is in the library but not 
> now. CVS is not sacred, I won't commit things just when I've done with 
> it, because it's wrong.
> 
> As for the sitemap, I've reverted it.

I gather that you are talking about the revert
of the /content/xdocs/ stuff. Is that reversion
reflected in status.xml now? It looks like the wrong
action has been hidden.

> > When I'll be fixing DTDs soon, I'll make sure to live by the same rule.
> > 
> > </Steven>

It sounds like we need a document that lists the things that
we know are going to change in future releases, e.g. moving
some relevant *.xsl from resources/library/xslt/ into
resources/convert/

--David



Re: doc that warns about known future changes

Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:40:11PM +1100, David Crossley wrote:
...
> > Hmmm, Jeff IIRC removed it... you mean we should keep track of all 
> > actions and reverts?
> 
> Hell no, not at all necessary.
> 
> Look at status.xml ... The <change><action> about /convert/
> has been hidden, whereas i see that your sitemap revert
> was about the next item in <status><changes> ...
> ----
>    <release version="0.2rc1" date="2002-11-13">
>       <!--
>     <action dev="NKB" type="update" context="utils">
>       Added a convert dir in the resources with stylesheets
>       and buildfile to help convert Anakia and Maven-based sites.
>      </action>    
>      -->
>     <action dev="NKB" type="update" context="webapp">
>       Now Forrest will look for xdocs in the content dir first,
>       and fallback to the legacy xdocs dir.
>     </action>
> ----

Sorry.. commented out the wrong thing.  Fixed.

--Jeff


Re: doc that warns about known future changes

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > 
> >>Steven Noels wrote:
> >>
> >>>Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Steven Noels wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>So who is supposed now to clean up the existing 
> >>>>>src/resources/library/xslt mess?
> >>>>
> >>>>Are you volunteering?
> >>>
> >>>Nope.
> >>>
> >>>And I'll feel bad if David has to play housemaid once again.
> >>>
> >>>Let's make this a rule: if you break stuff or add new things which make 
> >>>existing things obsolete, you have to provide a migration path or clean 
> >>>up yourself.
> >>
> >>With the convert stuff I haven't broken anything, and have followed IIUC 
> >>David's suggestion.
> >>
> >>
> >>David Crossley wrote:
> >>[...]
> >> > so it seems better to me to have src/resources/convert
> >>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > with type-specific sub-dirs to hold all of their resources,
> >> > e.g. /maven/*.xsl, /maven/build.xml, etc.). Otherwise
> >> > we will need strange filenames to distinguish each.
> >>
> >>Do you read the mails? :-|
> >>
> >>There is no migration path, they are simply different things.
> >>Eventually we will use that instead of what is in the library but not 
> >>now. CVS is not sacred, I won't commit things just when I've done with 
> >>it, because it's wrong.
> >>
> >>As for the sitemap, I've reverted it.
> > 
> > 
> > I gather that you are talking about the revert
> > of the /content/xdocs/ stuff. Is that reversion
> > reflected in status.xml now? It looks like the wrong
> > action has been hidden.
> 
> Hmmm, Jeff IIRC removed it... you mean we should keep track of all 
> actions and reverts?

Hell no, not at all necessary.

Look at status.xml ... The <change><action> about /convert/
has been hidden, whereas i see that your sitemap revert
was about the next item in <status><changes> ...
----
   <release version="0.2rc1" date="2002-11-13">
      <!--
    <action dev="NKB" type="update" context="utils">
      Added a convert dir in the resources with stylesheets
      and buildfile to help convert Anakia and Maven-based sites.
     </action>    
     -->
    <action dev="NKB" type="update" context="webapp">
      Now Forrest will look for xdocs in the content dir first,
      and fallback to the legacy xdocs dir.
    </action>
----

> >>>When I'll be fixing DTDs soon, I'll make sure to live by the same rule.
> >>>
> >>></Steven>
> > 
> > It sounds like we need a document that lists the things that
> > we know are going to change in future releases, e.g. moving
> > some relevant *.xsl from resources/library/xslt/ into
> > resources/convert/




Re: doc that warns about known future changes

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.

David Crossley wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
>>Steven Noels wrote:
>>
>>>Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steven Noels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So who is supposed now to clean up the existing 
>>>>>src/resources/library/xslt mess?
>>>>
>>>>Are you volunteering?
>>>
>>>Nope.
>>>
>>>And I'll feel bad if David has to play housemaid once again.
>>>
>>>Let's make this a rule: if you break stuff or add new things which make 
>>>existing things obsolete, you have to provide a migration path or clean 
>>>up yourself.
>>
>>With the convert stuff I haven't broken anything, and have followed IIUC 
>>David's suggestion.
>>
>>
>>David Crossley wrote:
>>[...]
>> > so it seems better to me to have src/resources/convert
>>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > with type-specific sub-dirs to hold all of their resources,
>> > e.g. /maven/*.xsl, /maven/build.xml, etc.). Otherwise
>> > we will need strange filenames to distinguish each.
>>
>>Do you read the mails? :-|
>>
>>There is no migration path, they are simply different things.
>>Eventually we will use that instead of what is in the library but not 
>>now. CVS is not sacred, I won't commit things just when I've done with 
>>it, because it's wrong.
>>
>>As for the sitemap, I've reverted it.
> 
> 
> I gather that you are talking about the revert
> of the /content/xdocs/ stuff. Is that reversion
> reflected in status.xml now? It looks like the wrong
> action has been hidden.

Hmmm, Jeff IIRC removed it... you mean we should keep track of all 
actions and reverts?

>>>When I'll be fixing DTDs soon, I'll make sure to live by the same rule.
>>>
>>></Steven>
>>
> 
> It sounds like we need a document that lists the things that
> we know are going to change in future releases, e.g. moving
> some relevant *.xsl from resources/library/xslt/ into
> resources/convert/



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