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Posted to dev@lucene.apache.org by Michael Sokolov <ms...@gmail.com> on 2020/08/15 15:38:05 UTC

Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)

Just catching up after a couple of weeks away here; phew there is lots
going on!

Re splitting the projects, there has been some project reorganization
(we created a new TLP in Apache), but no real change yet. I think the
idea is to get the software separated, and then people will follow
their hearts/interests. For tracking the software re-org, we have this
issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14497

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 1:41 AM Marcus Eagan <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> When do these projects separate into their own TLP's? What is the timeline? Or is there documentation on the process of splitting an existing project into two separate projects?
>
> Best,
>
> Marcus
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:51 AM Dawid Weiss <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is now Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 8:46 AM GMT.
>>
>> A re-spin of the vote closing/ summary.
>>
>> 48 votes have been posted: 37 from PMC members, 8 from committers and
>> 3 from user community.
>>
>> From this total 8 people voted -1 and 40 people voted +1. Vote
>> distribution among PMC members (binding votes):
>>
>> [+1]: 33
>> [-1]: 4
>>
>> The vote has passed.
>>
>> Dawid
>>
>> All collected votes in a spreadsheet:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> And in plain text:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com)
>> PMC Doron Cohen (cdoronc@gmail.com)
>> PMC Shai Erera (serera@gmail.com)
>> PMC Ryan Ernst (ryan@iernst.net)
>> COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.ferenczi@gmail.com)
>> PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodnetic@gmail.com)
>> PMC Dennis Gove (dpgove@gmail.com)
>> PMC Adrien Grand (jpountz@gmail.com)
>> PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.groningen@gmail.com)
>> PMC Mark Harwood (mharwood@apache.org)
>> PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatcher@gmail.com)
>> PMC Shawn Heisey (apache@elyograg.org)
>> PMC Jan Høydahl (jan.asf@cominvent.com)
>> COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0828@gmail.com)
>> PMC Nicholas Knize (nknize@gmail.com)
>> PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinmangar@gmail.com)
>> PMC Michael McCandless (lucene@mikemccandless.com)
>> PMC Christian Moen (cm@atilika.com)
>> -- Gora Mohanty (gora@mimirtech.com)
>> PMC Robert Muir (rcmuir@gmail.com)
>> PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.nguyen@elastic.co.invalid)
>> PMC Kevin Risden (krisden@apache.org)
>> PMC Steven A Rowe (sarowe@gmail.com)
>> PMC Uwe Schindler (uwe@thetaphi.de)
>> PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekiguchi@rondhuit.com)
>> COMMITTER Atri Sharma (atri@apache.org)
>> -- Lucky Sharma (goku0910@gmail.com)
>> PMC David Smiley (david.w.smiley@gmail.com)
>> COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msokolov@gmail.com)
>> PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teofili@gmail.com)
>> PMC Varun Thacker (varun@vthacker.in)
>> COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1111@gmail.com)
>> PMC Andi Vajda (osaf@ovaltofu.org)
>> PMC Ignacio Vera (iverase@gmail.com)
>> PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.weiss@gmail.com)
>> PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willnauer@gmail.com)
>> PMC Alan Woodward (romseygeek@gmail.com)
>> PMC Karl Wright (daddywri@gmail.com)
>> COMMITTER Alexandre Rafalovitch (arafalov@gmail.com)
>> PMC Andrzej Białecki (ab@getopt.org)
>>
>> -1
>>
>> PMC Joel Bernstein (joelsolr@gmail.com)
>> COMMITTER Mike Drob (mdrob@apache.org)
>> PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowskija@gmail.com)
>> PMC Anshum Gupta (anshum@anshumgupta.net)
>> COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.heck@gmail.com)
>> COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_lucene@fucit.org)
>> PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflobbe@gmail.com)
>> -- Kevin Watters (kwatters@kmwllc.com)
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Lucene and Solr developers!
>> >
>> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am
>> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache
>> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two
>> > independent entities.
>> >
>> > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems
>> > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10
>> > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and
>> > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers,
>> > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make
>> > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP.
>> >
>> > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a
>> > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The
>> > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the
>> > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are
>> > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I
>> > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible --
>> > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I
>> > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put
>> > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the
>> > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me.
>> >
>> > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and
>> > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC,
>> > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be
>> > worked out during the process if the decision passes.
>> >
>> > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines):
>> >
>> > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal
>> > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal
>> >
>> > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to
>> > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding
>> > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please).
>> >
>> > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read
>> > and cast a vote.
>> >
>> > Dawid
>> >
>> > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E
>>
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>
> --
> Marcus Eagan
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