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Posted to dev@activemq.apache.org by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> on 2014/06/11 08:04:26 UTC
Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Hi
In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
hardening X and Y
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
start adding details to the release notes during development.
It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
nobody knows what is included now.
Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
that the change was noteworthy.
Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
they need more details than just this.
I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
the information from the release notes to say something about the
highlights.
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
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Re: Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.
I think we have a decent release page now
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
Thanks Claus.
Regards
--
Dejan Bosanac
----------------------
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
dbosanac@redhat.com
Twitter: @dejanb
Blog: http://sensatic.net
ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:
> I added couple of items, including JCA/RAR adapter. Yeah the Shiro Jira is
> still open, so it wasn’t on the list
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3621
>
> I think it’s safe to close it now
>
> Regards
> --
> Dejan Bosanac
> ----------------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> dbosanac@redhat.com
> Twitter: @dejanb
> Blog: http://sensatic.net
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Claus,
>> >
>> > absolutely. I went through the Jiras yesterday and didn’t find any new
>> > features in this release (there are a lot of improvements though). I
>> didn’t
>> > want to lose too much time and get the release out. Let’s try to improve
>> > this today. Please feel free to add anything you think should be there.
>> >
>>
>> Java8 support
>> And did we drop support for Java6? Or is it being deprecated, so we
>> can drop it in next release.
>>
>> Didnt the JCA adapter get hardened too?
>>
>> And what happended to that Apache shiro security plugin? didnt it get
>> added to 5.10 or was it 5.9?
>>
>>
>> About the change log, maybe we should have a changelog.md in the root
>> of the source code, so its very easy to just add a note in there as
>> part of the commit.
>>
>> Then when we do the release we can look there and add to the wiki page.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Regards
>> > --
>> > Dejan Bosanac
>> > ----------------------
>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> > dbosanac@redhat.com
>> > Twitter: @dejanb
>> > Blog: http://sensatic.net
>> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Claus,
>> >>
>> >> good point. It's something where we have to work indeed.
>> >>
>> >> Let me take a look on some Jira in order to add some content in the
>> >> release notes.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> JB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 06/11/2014 08:04 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
>> >>> hardening X and Y
>> >>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
>> >>>
>> >>> As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
>> >>> it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
>> >>>
>> >>> So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
>> >>> start adding details to the release notes during development.
>> >>>
>> >>> It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
>> >>> nobody knows what is included now.
>> >>>
>> >>> Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
>> >>> added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
>> >>> that the change was noteworthy.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
>> >>> Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
>> >>> they need more details than just this.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
>> >>> sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
>> >>> the information from the release notes to say something about the
>> >>> highlights.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> --
>> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> jbonofre@apache.org
>> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> Red Hat, Inc.
>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> Twitter: davsclaus
>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
>> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>>
>
>
Re: Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.
I added couple of items, including JCA/RAR adapter. Yeah the Shiro Jira is
still open, so it wasn’t on the list
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3621
I think it’s safe to close it now
Regards
--
Dejan Bosanac
----------------------
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
dbosanac@redhat.com
Twitter: @dejanb
Blog: http://sensatic.net
ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Claus,
> >
> > absolutely. I went through the Jiras yesterday and didn’t find any new
> > features in this release (there are a lot of improvements though). I
> didn’t
> > want to lose too much time and get the release out. Let’s try to improve
> > this today. Please feel free to add anything you think should be there.
> >
>
> Java8 support
> And did we drop support for Java6? Or is it being deprecated, so we
> can drop it in next release.
>
> Didnt the JCA adapter get hardened too?
>
> And what happended to that Apache shiro security plugin? didnt it get
> added to 5.10 or was it 5.9?
>
>
> About the change log, maybe we should have a changelog.md in the root
> of the source code, so its very easy to just add a note in there as
> part of the commit.
>
> Then when we do the release we can look there and add to the wiki page.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Regards
> > --
> > Dejan Bosanac
> > ----------------------
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> > dbosanac@redhat.com
> > Twitter: @dejanb
> > Blog: http://sensatic.net
> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Claus,
> >>
> >> good point. It's something where we have to work indeed.
> >>
> >> Let me take a look on some Jira in order to add some content in the
> >> release notes.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/11/2014 08:04 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
> >>> hardening X and Y
> >>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
> >>>
> >>> As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
> >>> it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
> >>>
> >>> So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
> >>> start adding details to the release notes during development.
> >>>
> >>> It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
> >>> nobody knows what is included now.
> >>>
> >>> Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
> >>> added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
> >>> that the change was noteworthy.
> >>>
> >>> Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
> >>> Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
> >>> they need more details than just this.
> >>>
> >>> I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
> >>> sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
> >>> the information from the release notes to say something about the
> >>> highlights.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> hawtio: http://hawt.io/
> fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
>
Re: Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:
> Hi Claus,
>
> absolutely. I went through the Jiras yesterday and didn’t find any new
> features in this release (there are a lot of improvements though). I didn’t
> want to lose too much time and get the release out. Let’s try to improve
> this today. Please feel free to add anything you think should be there.
>
Java8 support
And did we drop support for Java6? Or is it being deprecated, so we
can drop it in next release.
Didnt the JCA adapter get hardened too?
And what happended to that Apache shiro security plugin? didnt it get
added to 5.10 or was it 5.9?
About the change log, maybe we should have a changelog.md in the root
of the source code, so its very easy to just add a note in there as
part of the commit.
Then when we do the release we can look there and add to the wiki page.
> Regards
> --
> Dejan Bosanac
> ----------------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> dbosanac@redhat.com
> Twitter: @dejanb
> Blog: http://sensatic.net
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Claus,
>>
>> good point. It's something where we have to work indeed.
>>
>> Let me take a look on some Jira in order to add some content in the
>> release notes.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2014 08:04 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
>>> hardening X and Y
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
>>>
>>> As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
>>> it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
>>>
>>> So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
>>> start adding details to the release notes during development.
>>>
>>> It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
>>> nobody knows what is included now.
>>>
>>> Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
>>> added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
>>> that the change was noteworthy.
>>>
>>> Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
>>> Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
>>> they need more details than just this.
>>>
>>> I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
>>> sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
>>> the information from the release notes to say something about the
>>> highlights.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
fabric8: http://fabric8.io/
Re: Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.
Hi Claus,
absolutely. I went through the Jiras yesterday and didn’t find any new
features in this release (there are a lot of improvements though). I didn’t
want to lose too much time and get the release out. Let’s try to improve
this today. Please feel free to add anything you think should be there.
Regards
--
Dejan Bosanac
----------------------
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
dbosanac@redhat.com
Twitter: @dejanb
Blog: http://sensatic.net
ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
> Hi Claus,
>
> good point. It's something where we have to work indeed.
>
> Let me take a look on some Jira in order to add some content in the
> release notes.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 06/11/2014 08:04 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
>> hardening X and Y
>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
>>
>> As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
>> it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
>>
>> So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
>> start adding details to the release notes during development.
>>
>> It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
>> nobody knows what is included now.
>>
>> Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
>> added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
>> that the change was noteworthy.
>>
>> Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
>> Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
>> they need more details than just this.
>>
>> I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
>> sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
>> the information from the release notes to say something about the
>> highlights.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: Better release notes for ActiveMQ releases
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Claus,
good point. It's something where we have to work indeed.
Let me take a look on some Jira in order to add some content in the
release notes.
Regards
JB
On 06/11/2014 08:04 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> In the release notes for 5.10, there is only 2 items listened about
> hardening X and Y
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-5100-release.html
>
> As its a long time since 5.9.0 was released, we know there is more to
> it, than just hardening X and Y in this release.
>
> So this is a plea from me, and other users of AMQ, can you guys please
> start adding details to the release notes during development.
>
> It gets harder to promote ActiveMQ when a new release comes out and
> nobody knows what is included now.
>
> Its just much easier to write the release notes, if developers had
> added a tidbit to the docs during development, if the person though
> that the change was noteworthy.
>
> Now you can just look in the JIRAs would people say, but that is hard.
> Also when people blog/tweet et all about a new ActiveMQ release, then
> they need more details than just this.
>
> I have noticed that when we do new Camel releases, then many news
> sites and others write small articles about the new release, and use
> the information from the release notes to say something about the
> highlights.
>
>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com