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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net> on 2003/02/14 18:04:48 UTC
Re: [Jelly] Charva Text Terminals Windowing Toolkit - another
potential user interface taglibrary ?
Keep in mind that it is lgpl, so it can not live at apache cvs..
So maybe a project on werken.com or sf for jelly-tags ?
Mvgr,
Martin
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 07:39, stephane_listes@yahoo.fr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While fighting against nightly boredom on the web, I found a project called
> Charva, there: http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/
>
> This project provides "A Java Windowing Toolkit for Text Terminals".
>
> I'll let the original author describe it:
> "CHARVA is a Java framework for presenting a "graphical" user interface,
> composed of elements such as windows, dialogs, menus, textfields and buttons, on
> a traditional character-mode ASCII terminal. It has an API based on that of the
> Abstract Window Toolkit (AWT) and the "Swing" classes (collectively known as the
> Java Foundation Classes). Programmers familiar with AWT and Swing will find
> programming CHARVA straightforward. User interfaces can be designed on WYSIWYG
> IDEs such as Borland JBuilder and then easily converted to CHARVA, provided (of
> course) that they do not rely on capabilities of which text terminals are not
> physically capable (such as images, "mouse events" and "drag and drop")."
>
> I think that it should be possible to make a taglib out of it, similar to the
> Swing tag lib (or the SWT taglib, but I don't know much about this one).
>
> This would give us YAGUITL (Yet Another Graphical User Interface Tag Library),
> really useful to build text-terminal based apps "on the go".
>
> Charva-based apps load at light's speed, and I love text terminal apps because
> of that same speed, and I believe I'm not the only one.
>
> I started to write that tag lib, without much success till now, but it shouldn't
> be that hard.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Cheers,
> Stéphane
>
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Re: [Jelly] Charva Text Terminals Windowing Toolkit - another potential user interface taglibrary ?
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
I hear you Stéphane. BTW Charva looks pretty cool in a low tech kinda way :)
Maybe as Martin said, there should be an SF project for any LGPL / GPL using
tag libraries (just like there's an external Maven-plugins project).
James
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From: "Stéphane Mor" <st...@yahoo.fr>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:04:48PM +0100, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > Keep in mind that it is lgpl, so it can not live at apache cvs..
>
> Aaaaargh...
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
> I usually don't care about the license of the softwares that I use,
> as long as they're Free/Open Source softwares.
>
> IANAL ...
>
> So, what's next ?
> I think I'll keep that on my home cvs for now, and as soon as I get a
publicly
> available server, I'll open it to the public, maybe licensing it under an
> "ASLGPL" licence, or something like that ...
>
> This is sad, anyway.
>
> > So maybe a project on werken.com or sf for jelly-tags ?
>
> I can't create a sf project for every 100 lines of code that I wanna share
...
> This has happened for Maven plugins, to wait until it becomes a Jakarta
top
> project and we can put them there, but it's not the way to go, IMO.
>
> Stéphane
>
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 07:39, stephane_listes@yahoo.fr wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > While fighting against nightly boredom on the web, I found a project
called
> > > Charva, there: http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/
> > >
> > > This project provides "A Java Windowing Toolkit for Text Terminals".
> > >
> > > I'll let the original author describe it:
> > > "CHARVA is a Java framework for presenting a "graphical" user
interface,
> > > composed of elements such as windows, dialogs, menus, textfields and
buttons, on
> > > a traditional character-mode ASCII terminal. It has an API based on
that of the
> > > Abstract Window Toolkit (AWT) and the "Swing" classes (collectively
known as the
> > > Java Foundation Classes). Programmers familiar with AWT and Swing will
find
> > > programming CHARVA straightforward. User interfaces can be designed on
WYSIWYG
> > > IDEs such as Borland JBuilder and then easily converted to CHARVA,
provided (of
> > > course) that they do not rely on capabilities of which text terminals
are not
> > > physically capable (such as images, "mouse events" and "drag and
drop")."
> > >
> > > I think that it should be possible to make a taglib out of it, similar
to the
> > > Swing tag lib (or the SWT taglib, but I don't know much about this
one).
> > >
> > > This would give us YAGUITL (Yet Another Graphical User Interface Tag
Library),
> > > really useful to build text-terminal based apps "on the go".
> > >
> > > Charva-based apps load at light's speed, and I love text terminal apps
because
> > > of that same speed, and I believe I'm not the only one.
> > >
> > > I started to write that tag lib, without much success till now, but it
shouldn't
> > > be that hard.
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Stéphane
> > >
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> >
> >
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Re: [Jelly] Charva Text Terminals Windowing Toolkit - another potential user interface taglibrary ?
Posted by Stéphane Mor <st...@yahoo.fr>.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:04:48PM +0100, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> Keep in mind that it is lgpl, so it can not live at apache cvs..
Aaaaargh...
Thanks for pointing that out.
I usually don't care about the license of the softwares that I use,
as long as they're Free/Open Source softwares.
IANAL ...
So, what's next ?
I think I'll keep that on my home cvs for now, and as soon as I get a publicly
available server, I'll open it to the public, maybe licensing it under an
"ASLGPL" licence, or something like that ...
This is sad, anyway.
> So maybe a project on werken.com or sf for jelly-tags ?
I can't create a sf project for every 100 lines of code that I wanna share ...
This has happened for Maven plugins, to wait until it becomes a Jakarta top
project and we can put them there, but it's not the way to go, IMO.
Stéphane
>
> Mvgr,
> Martin
>
> On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 07:39, stephane_listes@yahoo.fr wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > While fighting against nightly boredom on the web, I found a project called
> > Charva, there: http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/
> >
> > This project provides "A Java Windowing Toolkit for Text Terminals".
> >
> > I'll let the original author describe it:
> > "CHARVA is a Java framework for presenting a "graphical" user interface,
> > composed of elements such as windows, dialogs, menus, textfields and buttons, on
> > a traditional character-mode ASCII terminal. It has an API based on that of the
> > Abstract Window Toolkit (AWT) and the "Swing" classes (collectively known as the
> > Java Foundation Classes). Programmers familiar with AWT and Swing will find
> > programming CHARVA straightforward. User interfaces can be designed on WYSIWYG
> > IDEs such as Borland JBuilder and then easily converted to CHARVA, provided (of
> > course) that they do not rely on capabilities of which text terminals are not
> > physically capable (such as images, "mouse events" and "drag and drop")."
> >
> > I think that it should be possible to make a taglib out of it, similar to the
> > Swing tag lib (or the SWT taglib, but I don't know much about this one).
> >
> > This would give us YAGUITL (Yet Another Graphical User Interface Tag Library),
> > really useful to build text-terminal based apps "on the go".
> >
> > Charva-based apps load at light's speed, and I love text terminal apps because
> > of that same speed, and I believe I'm not the only one.
> >
> > I started to write that tag lib, without much success till now, but it shouldn't
> > be that hard.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Stéphane
> >
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> >
> >
>
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