You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to commits@cassandra.apache.org by "Jonathan Ellis (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> on 2013/09/12 19:46:51 UTC
[jira] [Updated] (CASSANDRA-6013) CAS may return false but still
commit the insert
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-6013?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Jonathan Ellis updated CASSANDRA-6013:
--------------------------------------
Description:
If a Paxos proposer proposes some value/update and that propose fail, there is no guarantee on whether this value will be accepted or not ultimately. Paxos guarantees that we'll agree on "a" value (for a given round in our case), but does not guarantee that the proposer of the agreed upon value will know it. In particular, if for a given proposal at least one accepter has accepted it but not a quorum does, then that value might (but that's not guaranteed either) be replayed (and committed) by another proposer.
Currently, if a proposer A proposes some update U but it is rejected, A will sleep a bit and retry U. But if U was accepted by at least one acceptor, some other proposer B might replay U, succeed and commit it. If A does its retry after that happens, he will prepare, check the condition, and probably find that the conditions don't apply anymore since U has been committed already. It will thus return false, even though U has been in fact committed.
Unfortunately I'm not sure there is an easy way for a proposer whose propose fails to know if the update will prevail or not eventually. Which mean the only acceptable solution I can see would be to return to the user "I don't know" (through some exception for instance). Which is annoying because having a proposal rejected won't be an extremely rare occurrence, even with relatively light contention, and returning "I don't know" often is a bit unfriendly.
was:
If a Paxos proposer proposes some value/update and that propose fail, there is no guarantee on whether this value will be accepted or not ultimately. Paxos only guarantees that we'll agree on "a" value (for a given round in our case), but does guarantee that the proposer of the agreed upon value will know it. In particular, if for a given proposal at least one accepter has accepted it but not a quorum does, then that value might (but that's not guaranteed either) be replayed (and committed) by another proposer.
Currently, if a proposer A proposes some update U but it is rejected, A will sleep a bit and retry U. But if U was accepted by at least one acceptor, some other proposer B might replay U, succeed and commit it. If A does its retry after that happens, he will prepare, check the condition, and probably find that the conditions don't apply anymore since U has been committed already. It will thus return false, even though U has been in fact committed.
Unfortunately I'm not sure there is an easy way for a proposer whose propose fails to know if the update will prevail or not eventually. Which mean the only acceptable solution I can see would be to return to the user "I don't know" (through some exception for instance). Which is annoying because having a proposal rejected won't be an extremely rare occurrence, even with relatively light contention, and returning "I don't know" often is a bit unfriendly.
> CAS may return false but still commit the insert
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-6013
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-6013
> Project: Cassandra
> Issue Type: Bug
> Reporter: Sylvain Lebresne
>
> If a Paxos proposer proposes some value/update and that propose fail, there is no guarantee on whether this value will be accepted or not ultimately. Paxos guarantees that we'll agree on "a" value (for a given round in our case), but does not guarantee that the proposer of the agreed upon value will know it. In particular, if for a given proposal at least one accepter has accepted it but not a quorum does, then that value might (but that's not guaranteed either) be replayed (and committed) by another proposer.
> Currently, if a proposer A proposes some update U but it is rejected, A will sleep a bit and retry U. But if U was accepted by at least one acceptor, some other proposer B might replay U, succeed and commit it. If A does its retry after that happens, he will prepare, check the condition, and probably find that the conditions don't apply anymore since U has been committed already. It will thus return false, even though U has been in fact committed.
> Unfortunately I'm not sure there is an easy way for a proposer whose propose fails to know if the update will prevail or not eventually. Which mean the only acceptable solution I can see would be to return to the user "I don't know" (through some exception for instance). Which is annoying because having a proposal rejected won't be an extremely rare occurrence, even with relatively light contention, and returning "I don't know" often is a bit unfriendly.
--
This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators
For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira