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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> on 2007/02/02 20:16:02 UTC

DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Hi All,
I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc. 

Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.

Cheers!
Hernan

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
the more of us writing doc the merrier ;-)

Cheers!
Hernan

Karthiga Ratnam wrote:
> Hi Hernan,
> 
> I'm a tech writer and I can do content review on the documentation. If 
> that'll help, then I'm in :D
> 
> Regards
> Karthiga
> 
> On 2/3/07, * Hernan Cunico* <hcunico@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi All,
>     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
>     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
>     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
>     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective
>     doc.
> 
>     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> 
>     Cheers!
>     Hernan
> 
> 

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Karthiga Ratnam <ka...@gmail.com>.
Hi Hernan,

I'm a tech writer and I can do content review on the documentation. If
that'll help, then I'm in :D

Regards
Karthiga

On 2/3/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo v2.0documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo and
> it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
>
> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Hi Hernan,

I guess a good place to start would be to get together a set of  
install instructions for 1.2.  I think chris indicated he wanted to  
release this beast in the short term and working around the  
requirements for that release would be a good starting point.

On Feb 2, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:

> Hi All,
> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the  
> Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in  
> Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the  
> respective doc.
> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
Yup I guess we need 1.2 first.

Thx for the PDF, cool stuff. I already created a place holder in the Geronimo v2.0 documentation (http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html)

Let's consolidate the DT doc there, then we'll figure out how to move it around depending on the version.

Cheers!
Hernan

Christopher Blythe wrote:
> i was going to start piecing some of that together here soon as we try 
> to close out daytrader 1.2. as for a starting point with other general 
> documentation... here is a doc that was included with trade 6 before it 
> was donated to apache. it might serve as a good starting place...
> 
> chris
> 
> On 2/5/07, *Hernan Cunico* <hcunico@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     good point, we don't even have a doc for retrieving, building and
>     deploying.
> 
>     Does any of the folks working closer to DayTrader have any info on
>     building/deploying?
> 
>     Cheers!
>     Hernan
> 
>     Lasantha Ranaweera wrote:
>      > I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need this
>      > kind of  support too?
>      >
>      > If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of
>     DayTrader. Still
>      > I couldn't find it out to play around it.
>      >
>      > Thanks,
>      > Lasantha
>      >
>      > Hernan Cunico wrote:
>      >> Hi All,
>      >> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
>     Geronimo
>      >> v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
>      >> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
>     Geronimo
>      >> and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
>      >> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>      >>
>      >> Cheers!
>      >> Hernan
>      >>
>      >
>      >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets 
> evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Christopher Blythe <cj...@gmail.com>.
i was going to start piecing some of that together here soon as we try to
close out daytrader 1.2. as for a starting point with other general
documentation... here is a doc that was included with trade 6 before it was
donated to apache. it might serve as a good starting place...

chris

On 2/5/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> good point, we don't even have a doc for retrieving, building and
> deploying.
>
> Does any of the folks working closer to DayTrader have any info on
> building/deploying?
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>
> Lasantha Ranaweera wrote:
> > I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need this
> > kind of  support too?
> >
> > If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of DayTrader. Still
> > I couldn't find it out to play around it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lasantha
> >
> > Hernan Cunico wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo
> >> v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
> >> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo
> >> and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
> >> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> Hernan
> >>
> >
> >
>



-- 
"I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets
evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
good point, we don't even have a doc for retrieving, building and deploying.

Does any of the folks working closer to DayTrader have any info on building/deploying?

Cheers!
Hernan

Lasantha Ranaweera wrote:
> I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need this 
> kind of  support too?
> 
> If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of DayTrader. Still 
> I couldn't find it out to play around it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lasantha
> 
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo 
>> v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
>> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo 
>> and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
>> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
> 
> 

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Lasantha Ranaweera <la...@opensource.lk>.
Thanks Matt.

Definitely web services will be one of my targetted areas. ;)

> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/daytrader/trunk
>
> The web services piece will make an interesting test for the various
> implementations.
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:22 AM, Lasantha Ranaweera wrote:
>
>> I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need
>> this kind of  support too?
>>
>> If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of DayTrader.
>> Still I couldn't find it out to play around it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lasantha
>>
>> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
>>> Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round
>>> doc ;-)  )
>>> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
>>> Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the
>>> respective doc.
>>> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Hernan
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/daytrader/trunk

The web services piece will make an interesting test for the various  
implementations.


On Feb 3, 2007, at 7:22 AM, Lasantha Ranaweera wrote:

> I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need  
> this kind of  support too?
>
> If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of DayTrader.  
> Still I couldn't find it out to play around it.
>
> Thanks,
> Lasantha
>
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the  
>> Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round  
>> doc ;-)  )
>> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in  
>> Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the  
>> respective doc.
>> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
>
>


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Lasantha Ranaweera <la...@opensource.lk>.
I am in for DayTrader side (bugs or enhancements).  Do you need this 
kind of  support too?

If yest please let me know the latest trunk location of DayTrader. Still 
I couldn't find it out to play around it.

Thanks,
Lasantha

Hernan Cunico wrote:
> Hi All,
> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo 
> v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo 
> and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Christopher Blythe wrote:

> I had some additional thoughts as well...
>
> - best practices and/or guidelines for constructing load driver  
> scripts
> - steps/guidelines for performing performance measurements
>

Good points...what about guidance for documentation if one is  
comparing results.
>
>
>
> -- 
> "I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let...  
> lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Christopher Blythe <cj...@gmail.com>.
I had some additional thoughts as well...

- best practices and/or guidelines for constructing load driver scripts
- steps/guidelines for performing performance measurements

On 2/21/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Christopher Blythe wrote:
>
> All...
>
> Sorry for the delay in getting to this... Anyway, I put together something
> to start with on the wiki (http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html).
> I'm not exactly convinced this is the best place for it since we are tying
> it to a geronimo version. I guess I'm left wondering what we should do with
> this...
>
> http://geronimo.apache.org/daytrader.html
>
>
> I'd be happy to deep six it...the CWiki looks much better and is easier to
> maintain.  I think we should update any links for DT to the Cwiki.
>
>
> So, I guess in general, what do we want out of the DayTrader doc? I've
> tried to start off with a high-level approach and start to drill down. Most
> of what I have written thus far is actually based on DayTrader 1.2... 2.0will add JPA and eventually EJB3. I guess some of the additional areas that
> need to be covered could be...
>
> - how to build
> - how to deploy
> - how to create the database
>
>
> I'd like to add in some performance specific information like queries
> created, performance results, etc. but this would be more Geronimo specific
> and I wouldn't think we'd be hosting content of other AppServers here; or
> maybe we would if we didn't violate some intergalactic law.
>
> Workload breakdown like how many JMS messages are created for which
> trans...perhaps a break down of the transactions...mostly for performance
> folks.
>
>
> What else?
>
> Chris
>
> On 2/6/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think Chris B is putting some things together. Chris, is there any
> > area of the app you are not planning to doc right away?
> > I'm just trying to avoid overlapping (yeah, weird, really weird, this is
> > documentation that we are talking about ;-)  )
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Hernan
> >
> > Kanchana Welagedara wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Kanchana
> > >
> > > On 2/3/07, *Hernan Cunico* < hcunico@gmail.com
> > > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi All,
> > >     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
> > >     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc
> > ;-)  )
> > >     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
> > >     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the
> > respective
> > >     doc.
> > >
> > >     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> > >
> > >     Cheers!
> > >     Hernan
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets
> evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden
>
>
>


-- 
"I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets
evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Christopher Blythe wrote:

> All...
>
> Sorry for the delay in getting to this... Anyway, I put together  
> something to start with on the wiki ( http://cwiki.apache.org/ 
> GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html). I'm not exactly convinced this is the  
> best place for it since we are tying it to a geronimo version. I  
> guess I'm left wondering what we should do with this...
>
> http://geronimo.apache.org/daytrader.html

I'd be happy to deep six it...the CWiki looks much better and is  
easier to maintain.  I think we should update any links for DT to the  
Cwiki.

>
> So, I guess in general, what do we want out of the DayTrader doc?  
> I've tried to start off with a high-level approach and start to  
> drill down. Most of what I have written thus far is actually based  
> on DayTrader 1.2... 2.0 will add JPA and eventually EJB3. I guess  
> some of the additional areas that need to be covered could be...
>
> - how to build
> - how to deploy
> - how to create the database

I'd like to add in some performance specific information like queries  
created, performance results, etc. but this would be more Geronimo  
specific and I wouldn't think we'd be hosting content of other  
AppServers here; or maybe we would if we didn't violate some  
intergalactic law.

Workload breakdown like how many JMS messages are created for which  
trans...perhaps a break down of the transactions...mostly for  
performance folks.

>
> What else?
>
> Chris
>
> On 2/6/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Chris B is putting some things together. Chris, is there  
> any area of the app you are not planning to doc right away?
> I'm just trying to avoid overlapping (yeah, weird, really weird,  
> this is documentation that we are talking about ;-)  )
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>
> Kanchana Welagedara wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Kanchana
> >
> > On 2/3/07, *Hernan Cunico* < hcunico@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi All,
> >     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
> >     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round  
> doc ;-)  )
> >     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
> >     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the  
> respective
> >     doc.
> >
> >     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> >
> >     Cheers!
> >     Hernan
> >
> >
>
>
>
> -- 
> "I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let...  
> lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden


Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
Great doc Chris!

Let's leave this doc in the Geronimo v2.0 documentation for now, we can easily move it around later on.

In addition to build and deploy it would be cool to cover the different ways to configure and run DT.

Cheers!
Hernan

Christopher Blythe wrote:
> All...
> 
> Sorry for the delay in getting to this... Anyway, I put together 
> something to start with on the wiki ( 
> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html). I'm not exactly 
> convinced this is the best place for it since we are tying it to a 
> geronimo version. I guess I'm left wondering what we should do with this...
> 
> http://geronimo.apache.org/daytrader.html
> 
> So, I guess in general, what do we want out of the DayTrader doc? I've 
> tried to start off with a high-level approach and start to drill down. 
> Most of what I have written thus far is actually based on DayTrader 
> 1.2... 2.0 will add JPA and eventually EJB3. I guess some of the 
> additional areas that need to be covered could be...
> 
> - how to build
> - how to deploy
> - how to create the database
> 
> What else?
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 2/6/07, *Hernan Cunico* <hcunico@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I think Chris B is putting some things together. Chris, is there any
>     area of the app you are not planning to doc right away?
>     I'm just trying to avoid overlapping (yeah, weird, really weird,
>     this is documentation that we are talking about ;-)  )
> 
>     Cheers!
>     Hernan
> 
>     Kanchana Welagedara wrote:
>      > Hi All
>      >
>      > I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?
>      >
>      > Regards
>      > Kanchana
>      >
>      > On 2/3/07, *Hernan Cunico* < hcunico@gmail.com
>     <ma...@gmail.com>
>      > <mailto:hcunico@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hi All,
>      >     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
>      >     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round
>     doc ;-)  )
>      >     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
>      >     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the
>     respective
>      >     doc.
>      >
>      >     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>      >
>      >     Cheers!
>      >     Hernan
>      >
>      >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets 
> evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Christopher Blythe <cj...@gmail.com>.
All...

Sorry for the delay in getting to this... Anyway, I put together something
to start with on the wiki (http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/daytrader.html).
I'm not exactly convinced this is the best place for it since we are tying
it to a geronimo version. I guess I'm left wondering what we should do with
this...

http://geronimo.apache.org/daytrader.html

So, I guess in general, what do we want out of the DayTrader doc? I've tried
to start off with a high-level approach and start to drill down. Most of
what I have written thus far is actually based on DayTrader 1.2... 2.0 will
add JPA and eventually EJB3. I guess some of the additional areas that need
to be covered could be...

- how to build
- how to deploy
- how to create the database

What else?

Chris

On 2/6/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think Chris B is putting some things together. Chris, is there any area
> of the app you are not planning to doc right away?
> I'm just trying to avoid overlapping (yeah, weird, really weird, this is
> documentation that we are talking about ;-)  )
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>
> Kanchana Welagedara wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Kanchana
> >
> > On 2/3/07, *Hernan Cunico* < hcunico@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi All,
> >     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
> >     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc
> ;-)  )
> >     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
> >     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective
> >     doc.
> >
> >     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> >
> >     Cheers!
> >     Hernan
> >
> >
>



-- 
"I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets
evolve, let the chips fall where they may." - Tyler Durden

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
I think Chris B is putting some things together. Chris, is there any area of the app you are not planning to doc right away? 
I'm just trying to avoid overlapping (yeah, weird, really weird, this is documentation that we are talking about ;-)  )

Cheers!
Hernan

Kanchana Welagedara wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?
> 
> Regards
> Kanchana
> 
> On 2/3/07, *Hernan Cunico* < hcunico@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi All,
>     I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the
>     Geronimo v2.0 documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
>     It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in
>     Geronimo and it will more massive if accompanied with the respective
>     doc.
> 
>     Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
> 
>     Cheers!
>     Hernan
> 
> 

Re: DayTrader and Geronimo v2.0 documentation

Posted by Kanchana Welagedara <ka...@gmail.com>.
Hi All

I'll be in for the DayTrader.Shall we come up will a "TODO" list ?

Regards
Kanchana

On 2/3/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I was thinking we should give DayTrader a bigger role in the Geronimo v2.0documentation (yes, I'm always orbiting round doc ;-)  )
> It's a great app that will help us test lots of components in Geronimo and
> it will more massive if accompanied with the respective doc.
>
> Volunteers? I'll help as much as I can but need lot of guidance.
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>