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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca> on 2010/09/05 00:23:08 UTC
Re: [scxml-eclipse] User Feedback
Hi Long,
I just wanted to follow up quickly and find out the current status on the
issues that were raised here. Specifically, is it possible to add executable
content to transitions in scxml-eclipse?
Please let me know. Thanks,
Jake
2010/8/8 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
> Hi Long,
>
> I should mention that I had missed this part of the specification as
> well, and I only recently discovered it while trying to determine how
> best to express static reactions with SCXML. I'm currently updating
> scxml-js to support this.
>
> Jake
>
> On 10-08-08 10:12 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> > Hi Jake,
> > Thanks for your reply. It seems that we should re-define transition EMF
> data
> > model for this tool, rebuild the tool from the base. I will read SCXML
> > transition specification carefully and carry on the rebuild job
> >
> > 在 2010年8月9日 上午9:22，Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>写道：
> >
> >
> >> Hi, Long,
> >>
> >> Replies below:
> >>
> >> On 10-08-08 09:06 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> >>
> >>> I do not think we can create a transition without a target, target is a
> >>> necessary element for a transition.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The spec says that the target attribute on transition is not required.
> >> In that case, I think the semantics are similar to a Static Reaction, as
> >> defined in the paper describing the Rhapsody semantics of statecharts.
> >> From the spec:
> >>
> >> The identifier(s) of the state or parallel region to transition to. If
> >> it is omitted, the transition will not cause a change in the state
> >> configuration when it is executed. The executable content contained in
> >> the transition will still be executed, so the transition will function
> >> as a simple event handler. If the target is present and equal to the
> >> state containing the transition element, the transition will cause the
> >> state machine to leave and then re-enter this state.
> >>
> >> From: http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#transition
> >>
> >>> To feature 1 and 3 in Chris's commends, we can achieve them, not a big
> >>> thing. What do you mean about "showstoppers" bug ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> What I mean is that I think these things are critical to usability.
> >>
> >> Jake
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [scxml-eclipse] User Feedback
Posted by Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, i hope some one can work with me for the project together, i will
supply anything that you need as i can :-)
在 2010年9月5日 下午10:19，Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>写道：
> 2010/9/5 Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>:
> > Yeah, I will add this part, but i think it will take me a while, i will
> > graduate this winter, these days, i was working for my graduate pater, so
> > may be you should wait for a while, sorry for that :-(
> >
> <snip/>
>
> The other option always available would be for someone else to jump in
> and make the necessary changes. I may not have time soon for this, but
> Jake or Chris if you want to take a look, feel free to have at it.
>
> Starting point to get going is probably this page [1].
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1]
> http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/gsoc/2010/scxml-eclipse/guide/run-source-code.html
>
>
>
> > 2010/9/5 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
> >
> >> Hi Long,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to follow up quickly and find out the current status on
> the
> >> issues that were raised here. Specifically, is it possible to add
> >> executable
> >> content to transitions in scxml-eclipse?
> >>
> >> Please let me know. Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jake
> >>
> >> 2010/8/8 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
> >>
> >> > Hi Long,
> >> >
> >> > I should mention that I had missed this part of the specification as
> >> > well, and I only recently discovered it while trying to determine how
> >> > best to express static reactions with SCXML. I'm currently updating
> >> > scxml-js to support this.
> >> >
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > On 10-08-08 10:12 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> >> > > Hi Jake,
> >> > > Thanks for your reply. It seems that we should re-define transition
> EMF
> >> > data
> >> > > model for this tool, rebuild the tool from the base. I will read
> SCXML
> >> > > transition specification carefully and carry on the rebuild job
> >> > >
> >> > > 在 2010年8月9日 上午9:22，Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>写道：
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi, Long,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Replies below:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 10-08-08 09:06 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I do not think we can create a transition without a target, target
> is
> >> a
> >> > >>> necessary element for a transition.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> The spec says that the target attribute on transition is not
> required.
> >> > >> In that case, I think the semantics are similar to a Static
> Reaction,
> >> as
> >> > >> defined in the paper describing the Rhapsody semantics of
> statecharts.
> >> > >> From the spec:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The identifier(s) of the state or parallel region to transition to.
> If
> >> > >> it is omitted, the transition will not cause a change in the state
> >> > >> configuration when it is executed. The executable content contained
> in
> >> > >> the transition will still be executed, so the transition will
> function
> >> > >> as a simple event handler. If the target is present and equal to
> the
> >> > >> state containing the transition element, the transition will cause
> the
> >> > >> state machine to leave and then re-enter this state.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> From: http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#transition
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> To feature 1 and 3 in Chris's commends, we can achieve them, not a
> >> big
> >> > >>> thing. What do you mean about "showstoppers" bug ?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> What I mean is that I think these things are critical to usability.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jake
> >> > >>
>
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>
--
Best Regards
Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)
Re: [scxml-eclipse] User Feedback
Posted by Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>.
I'm already set up with the source code, so I may have a look later, but
unfortunately I think I will also not be able to work on this for a while.
Jake
On 10-09-05 10:19 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> 2010/9/5 Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Yeah, I will add this part, but i think it will take me a while, i will
>> graduate this winter, these days, i was working for my graduate pater, so
>> may be you should wait for a while, sorry for that :-(
>>
>>
> <snip/>
>
> The other option always available would be for someone else to jump in
> and make the necessary changes. I may not have time soon for this, but
> Jake or Chris if you want to take a look, feel free to have at it.
>
> Starting point to get going is probably this page [1].
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/gsoc/2010/scxml-eclipse/guide/run-source-code.html
>
>
>
>
>> 2010/9/5 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Long,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to follow up quickly and find out the current status on the
>>> issues that were raised here. Specifically, is it possible to add
>>> executable
>>> content to transitions in scxml-eclipse?
>>>
>>> Please let me know. Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> 2010/8/8 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Long,
>>>>
>>>> I should mention that I had missed this part of the specification as
>>>> well, and I only recently discovered it while trying to determine how
>>>> best to express static reactions with SCXML. I'm currently updating
>>>> scxml-js to support this.
>>>>
>>>> Jake
>>>>
>>>> On 10-08-08 10:12 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jake,
>>>>> Thanks for your reply. It seems that we should re-define transition EMF
>>>>>
>>>> data
>>>>
>>>>> model for this tool, rebuild the tool from the base. I will read SCXML
>>>>> transition specification carefully and carry on the rebuild job
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2010年8月9日 上午9:22，Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>写道：
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Long,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replies below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10-08-08 09:06 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not think we can create a transition without a target, target is
>>>>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>>>>> necessary element for a transition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The spec says that the target attribute on transition is not required.
>>>>>> In that case, I think the semantics are similar to a Static Reaction,
>>>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>>>> defined in the paper describing the Rhapsody semantics of statecharts.
>>>>>> From the spec:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The identifier(s) of the state or parallel region to transition to. If
>>>>>> it is omitted, the transition will not cause a change in the state
>>>>>> configuration when it is executed. The executable content contained in
>>>>>> the transition will still be executed, so the transition will function
>>>>>> as a simple event handler. If the target is present and equal to the
>>>>>> state containing the transition element, the transition will cause the
>>>>>> state machine to leave and then re-enter this state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#transition
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To feature 1 and 3 in Chris's commends, we can achieve them, not a
>>>>>>>
>>> big
>>>
>>>>>>> thing. What do you mean about "showstoppers" bug ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I mean is that I think these things are critical to usability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [scxml-eclipse] User Feedback
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
2010/9/5 Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>:
> Yeah, I will add this part, but i think it will take me a while, i will
> graduate this winter, these days, i was working for my graduate pater, so
> may be you should wait for a while, sorry for that :-(
>
<snip/>
The other option always available would be for someone else to jump in
and make the necessary changes. I may not have time soon for this, but
Jake or Chris if you want to take a look, feel free to have at it.
Starting point to get going is probably this page [1].
-Rahul
[1] http://commons.apache.org/sandbox/gsoc/2010/scxml-eclipse/guide/run-source-code.html
> 2010/9/5 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
>
>> Hi Long,
>>
>> I just wanted to follow up quickly and find out the current status on the
>> issues that were raised here. Specifically, is it possible to add
>> executable
>> content to transitions in scxml-eclipse?
>>
>> Please let me know. Thanks,
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> 2010/8/8 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
>>
>> > Hi Long,
>> >
>> > I should mention that I had missed this part of the specification as
>> > well, and I only recently discovered it while trying to determine how
>> > best to express static reactions with SCXML. I'm currently updating
>> > scxml-js to support this.
>> >
>> > Jake
>> >
>> > On 10-08-08 10:12 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
>> > > Hi Jake,
>> > > Thanks for your reply. It seems that we should re-define transition EMF
>> > data
>> > > model for this tool, rebuild the tool from the base. I will read SCXML
>> > > transition specification carefully and carry on the rebuild job
>> > >
>> > > 在 2010年8月9日 上午9:22，Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>写道：
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Hi, Long,
>> > >>
>> > >> Replies below:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 10-08-08 09:06 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I do not think we can create a transition without a target, target is
>> a
>> > >>> necessary element for a transition.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> The spec says that the target attribute on transition is not required.
>> > >> In that case, I think the semantics are similar to a Static Reaction,
>> as
>> > >> defined in the paper describing the Rhapsody semantics of statecharts.
>> > >> From the spec:
>> > >>
>> > >> The identifier(s) of the state or parallel region to transition to. If
>> > >> it is omitted, the transition will not cause a change in the state
>> > >> configuration when it is executed. The executable content contained in
>> > >> the transition will still be executed, so the transition will function
>> > >> as a simple event handler. If the target is present and equal to the
>> > >> state containing the transition element, the transition will cause the
>> > >> state machine to leave and then re-enter this state.
>> > >>
>> > >> From: http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#transition
>> > >>
>> > >>> To feature 1 and 3 in Chris's commends, we can achieve them, not a
>> big
>> > >>> thing. What do you mean about "showstoppers" bug ?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> What I mean is that I think these things are critical to usability.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jake
>> > >>
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Re: [scxml-eclipse] User Feedback
Posted by Xun Long Gui <us...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I will add this part, but i think it will take me a while, i will
graduate this winter, these days, i was working for my graduate pater, so
may be you should wait for a while, sorry for that :-(
2010/9/5 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
> Hi Long,
>
> I just wanted to follow up quickly and find out the current status on the
> issues that were raised here. Specifically, is it possible to add
> executable
> content to transitions in scxml-eclipse?
>
> Please let me know. Thanks,
>
> Jake
>
> 2010/8/8 Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>
>
> > Hi Long,
> >
> > I should mention that I had missed this part of the specification as
> > well, and I only recently discovered it while trying to determine how
> > best to express static reactions with SCXML. I'm currently updating
> > scxml-js to support this.
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > On 10-08-08 10:12 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> > > Hi Jake,
> > > Thanks for your reply. It seems that we should re-define transition EMF
> > data
> > > model for this tool, rebuild the tool from the base. I will read SCXML
> > > transition specification carefully and carry on the rebuild job
> > >
> > > 在 2010年8月9日 上午9:22，Jacob Beard <jb...@cs.mcgill.ca>写道：
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi, Long,
> > >>
> > >> Replies below:
> > >>
> > >> On 10-08-08 09:06 PM, Xun Long Gui wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I do not think we can create a transition without a target, target is
> a
> > >>> necessary element for a transition.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> The spec says that the target attribute on transition is not required.
> > >> In that case, I think the semantics are similar to a Static Reaction,
> as
> > >> defined in the paper describing the Rhapsody semantics of statecharts.
> > >> From the spec:
> > >>
> > >> The identifier(s) of the state or parallel region to transition to. If
> > >> it is omitted, the transition will not cause a change in the state
> > >> configuration when it is executed. The executable content contained in
> > >> the transition will still be executed, so the transition will function
> > >> as a simple event handler. If the target is present and equal to the
> > >> state containing the transition element, the transition will cause the
> > >> state machine to leave and then re-enter this state.
> > >>
> > >> From: http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#transition
> > >>
> > >>> To feature 1 and 3 in Chris's commends, we can achieve them, not a
> big
> > >>> thing. What do you mean about "showstoppers" bug ?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> What I mean is that I think these things are critical to usability.
> > >>
> > >> Jake
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Best Regards
Gui Xun Long (桂训龙)