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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Rich Persaud <pe...@b8d.net> on 2002/10/09 05:26:06 UTC

re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

Berin wrote:
|  Even when Quick and Dirty takes longer.  I tried to convince my boss 
that
|  a certain "customization" required so many fundamental changes that it 
would
|  be quicker and easier to develop/maintain if we did it right.  He told 
me
|  that he would never be able to convince the CEO that was the right 
choice,
|  so the "Quick and Dirty" route was the choice--taking me twice as long 
to
|  get it done.

Preferred pain is a known pain with an experience-based cap.

New and improved pain may promise an average POI (Pain-on-Investment) that 
is 50% of the familiar pain, but will be assigned a risk profile with 
unknown maximum pain.

If your previous experience confirms that max(NewPain) <= max(OldPain), 
then go ahead and implement NewPain, but make it look like OldPain.  If 
max(NewPain) turns out to be >> max(OldPain), you're on the hook.  But you 
would have first hand experience to make the call, whereas your boss (and 
definitely his boss) would not (or they wouldn't object in the first 
place).

One successful implementation of NewPain where max(NewPain) <= 
max(OldPain), while delivering promised improvements, will set a precedent. 
 But someone has to take the risk.  And it won't be people twice-removed 
from the pain.

...  in my (painful) experience.

Rich

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Re: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
I knew that was coming.  

-dysfunctional Andy

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 03:36, Bill Barker wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Persaud" <pe...@b8d.net>
> To: "Jakarta General List" <ge...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM
> Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???
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> > New and improved pain may promise an average POI (Pain-on-Investment) that
> > is 50% of the familiar pain, but will be assigned a risk profile with
> > unknown maximum pain.
> 
> Now we finally know what the POI developers were thinking. ;-)
> 
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Re: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???

Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Persaud" <pe...@b8d.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: re[2]: Differences between Structs and Turbine ???


> New and improved pain may promise an average POI (Pain-on-Investment) that
> is 50% of the familiar pain, but will be assigned a risk profile with
> unknown maximum pain.

Now we finally know what the POI developers were thinking. ;-)


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