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Posted to dev@onami.apache.org by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> on 2013/03/18 08:01:49 UTC
[VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hello,
in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
Foundation.
Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level project.
[ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
[ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
The vote is open for 72h.
Best regards,
Christian
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Daniel Manzke <da...@googlemail.com>.
don't worry about it christian. you really do awesome work.
2013/3/21 Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>
> lol
>
> I'm in the process of putting Curator in the Incubator right now. The
> "manual" is a bunch of wiki written over a period of years spread out all
> over the place. Lots of fun ;)
>
> -JZ
>
> On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 21/03/2013 18:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >> OK, folks. I see: I followed the manual, but failed anyway. :-)
> >>
> >
> > RTFM -> FTFM :)
> >
> >> I will open a new vote in a couple of minutes. Hopefully the confusion
> >> is then history!
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 21/03/2013 12:39, Daniel Manzke wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the
> ASF I
> >>>> was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Same here :)
> >>>
> >>> I was trying to follow the thread on the incubator mailing list seeing
> the
> >>> incubator guys were also confused
> >>>
> >>> (+ out of connection for a few days, which didn't help)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> So start a new one and we will go for it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> So if I understand well:
> >>>
> >>> 1. launch the vote on onami
> >>> 2. forward the hopefully positive result to incubator
> >>> 3. launch the vote on incubator
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Bye,
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ok i will do so.
> >>>>> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
> >>>>> restart the thread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
> >>>>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Mate,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
> >>>>>> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I
> think
> >>>>>> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@then
> >>>>>> we will fwd to general@
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>> TIA, all the best,
> >>>>>> -Simo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >>>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> >>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Onami-Community,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
> >>>>>>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make
> own
> >>>>>>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes.
> If
> >>>>>>> any questions, please let me know.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>> Christian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >>>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the
> graduation
> >>>>>>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the
> Apache
> >>>>>>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness
> to
> >>>>>>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
> >>>>>>>> Foundation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top
> level
> >>>>>
> >>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
> >>>>>>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72h.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>> Christian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >>>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
--
Viele Grüße/Best Regards
Daniel Manzke
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Jordan Zimmerman <jo...@jordanzimmerman.com>.
lol
I'm in the process of putting Curator in the Incubator right now. The "manual" is a bunch of wiki written over a period of years spread out all over the place. Lots of fun ;)
-JZ
On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 21/03/2013 18:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> OK, folks. I see: I followed the manual, but failed anyway. :-)
>>
>
> RTFM -> FTFM :)
>
>> I will open a new vote in a couple of minutes. Hopefully the confusion
>> is then history!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2013 12:39, Daniel Manzke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the ASF I
>>>> was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Same here :)
>>>
>>> I was trying to follow the thread on the incubator mailing list seeing the
>>> incubator guys were also confused
>>>
>>> (+ out of connection for a few days, which didn't help)
>>>
>>>
>>>> So start a new one and we will go for it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if I understand well:
>>>
>>> 1. launch the vote on onami
>>> 2. forward the hopefully positive result to incubator
>>> 3. launch the vote on incubator
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> ok i will do so.
>>>>> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
>>>>> restart the thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>>>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mate,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
>>>>>> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
>>>>>> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
>>>>>> we will fwd to general@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>> TIA, all the best,
>>>>>> -Simo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Onami-Community,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
>>>>>>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
>>>>>>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
>>>>>>> any questions, please let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>>>>>>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>>>>>>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>>>>>>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level
>>>>>
>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>>>>>>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.
On 21/03/2013 18:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> OK, folks. I see: I followed the manual, but failed anyway. :-)
>
RTFM -> FTFM :)
> I will open a new vote in a couple of minutes. Hopefully the confusion
> is then history!
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 21/03/2013 12:39, Daniel Manzke wrote:
>>>
>>> This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the ASF I
>>> was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
>>>
>>
>> Same here :)
>>
>> I was trying to follow the thread on the incubator mailing list seeing the
>> incubator guys were also confused
>>
>> (+ out of connection for a few days, which didn't help)
>>
>>
>>> So start a new one and we will go for it.
>>>
>>
>> So if I understand well:
>>
>> 1. launch the vote on onami
>> 2. forward the hopefully positive result to incubator
>> 3. launch the vote on incubator
>>
>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ok i will do so.
>>>> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
>>>> restart the thread.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mate,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
>>>>> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
>>>>> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
>>>>> we will fwd to general@
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> TIA, all the best,
>>>>> -Simo
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Onami-Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
>>>>>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
>>>>>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
>>>>>> any questions, please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>>>>>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>>>>>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>>>>>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level
>>>>
>>>> project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>>>>>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
OK, folks. I see: I followed the manual, but failed anyway. :-)
I will open a new vote in a couple of minutes. Hopefully the confusion
is then history!
Cheers
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eric Charles <er...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 21/03/2013 12:39, Daniel Manzke wrote:
>>
>> This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the ASF I
>> was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
>>
>
> Same here :)
>
> I was trying to follow the thread on the incubator mailing list seeing the
> incubator guys were also confused
>
> (+ out of connection for a few days, which didn't help)
>
>
>> So start a new one and we will go for it.
>>
>
> So if I understand well:
>
> 1. launch the vote on onami
> 2. forward the hopefully positive result to incubator
> 3. launch the vote on incubator
>
>
>> Bye,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ok i will do so.
>>> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
>>> restart the thread.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mate,
>>>>
>>>> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
>>>> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
>>>> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
>>>> we will fwd to general@
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>> TIA, all the best,
>>>> -Simo
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Onami-Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
>>>>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
>>>>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
>>>>> any questions, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>>>>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>>>>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>>>>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level
>>>
>>> project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>>>>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Eric Charles <er...@apache.org>.
On 21/03/2013 12:39, Daniel Manzke wrote:
> This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the ASF I
> was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
>
Same here :)
I was trying to follow the thread on the incubator mailing list seeing
the incubator guys were also confused
(+ out of connection for a few days, which didn't help)
> So start a new one and we will go for it.
>
So if I understand well:
1. launch the vote on onami
2. forward the hopefully positive result to incubator
3. launch the vote on incubator
> Bye,
> Daniel
>
>
> 2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ok i will do so.
>> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
>> restart the thread.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Mate,
>>>
>>> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
>>> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
>>> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
>>> we will fwd to general@
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>> TIA, all the best,
>>> -Simo
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Onami-Community,
>>>>
>>>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
>>>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
>>>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
>>>> any questions, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>>>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>>>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>>>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level
>> project.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>>>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>>>>
>>>>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Daniel Manzke <da...@googlemail.com>.
This is exactly what has happened. Through the discussion with the ASF I
was not sure if it was a vote for us or for them. ;)
So start a new one and we will go for it.
Bye,
Daniel
2013/3/21 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> ok i will do so.
> I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
> restart the thread.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Mate,
> >
> > I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
> > all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
> > it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
> > we will fwd to general@
> >
> > WDYT?
> > TIA, all the best,
> > -Simo
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> > http://www.99soft.org/
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello Onami-Community,
> >>
> >> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
> >> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
> >> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
> >> any questions, please let me know.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> >>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
> >>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
> >>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
> >>> Foundation.
> >>>
> >>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level
> project.
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
> >>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
> >>>
> >>> The vote is open for 72h.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
--
Viele Grüße/Best Regards
Daniel Manzke
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
ok i will do so.
I am out of office the next hours, if you have cylces, you can also
restart the thread.
Cheers
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Mate,
>
> I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
> all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
> it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
> we will fwd to general@
>
> WDYT?
> TIA, all the best,
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Onami-Community,
>>
>> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
>> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
>> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
>> any questions, please let me know.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>>> Foundation.
>>>
>>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level project.
>>>
>>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>>
>>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Mate,
I think people here thought the VOTE was directed to IPMC and since
all the important discussions happened in general@incubation, I think
it would be better if we start the vote once again here in dev@ then
we will fwd to general@
WDYT?
TIA, all the best,
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Onami-Community,
>
> nobody has voted on this - whats up?
> Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
> decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
> any questions, please let me know.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
>> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
>> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
>> Foundation.
>>
>> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level project.
>>
>> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
>> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>>
>> The vote is open for 72h.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Christian
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hello Onami-Community,
nobody has voted on this - whats up?
Without a successful vote it looks like we are not ready to make own
decisions. I know this is not the case, please take a few minutes. If
any questions, please let me know.
Cheers
Christian
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> Hello,
>
> in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
> Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to
> become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software
> Foundation.
>
> Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level project.
>
> [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project
> [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because...
>
> The vote is open for 72h.
>
> Best regards,
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... I was encouraged by your change and changed a bit:...
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...I followed this:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> > "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is
> proposed."...
>
> Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
> general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
> vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
>
I was encouraged by your change and changed a bit:
It is wise to notify the incubator general
list<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org>
that
the community vote is starting. Please do not Cc the vote to the general
list as that creates confusion, instead you can either:
- FWD the [VOTE] e-mail to the general list, or
- Send a different copy to the general list indicating that a graduation
community [VOTE] is in progress
This way we also can have a kind of unified behavior (or at least hints)
about what to do when notifying the IPMC about such votes
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I totally agree that it can be a source of confusion, but I used to
either FWD or send a different copy to general@ for notification and I
thought others do the same
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Craig L Russell
<cr...@oracle.com>wrote:
>
> On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I followed this:
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/**guides/graduation.html#tlp-**
>>>> community-vote<http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote>
>>>> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is
>>>> proposed."...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
>>> general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
>>> vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
>>>
>>
>> Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time
>> and grab a cup of coffee instead.
>>
>
> I started to do the same. But I decided to read to the end of this thread
> to be sure what the issue was.
>
> As a note, there was recently a very similar discussion about whether to
> copy or forward podling votes for new committers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. I found nothing misleading about the original vote which states
> pretty clearly "This is the community graduation vote for the Apache Onami
> project".
>
> The only thing "confusing" is that you actually have to *read* the message
> to know that it's a community vote. [meow] ;-)
>
>
>
>> Cheers
>>
>> -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...I followed this:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-
>>> vote
>>> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is
>>> proposed."...
>>
>> Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
>> general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
>> vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
>
> Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time
> and grab a cup of coffee instead.
I started to do the same. But I decided to read to the end of this
thread to be sure what the issue was.
As a note, there was recently a very similar discussion about whether
to copy or forward podling votes for new committers.
Regards,
Craig
P.S. I found nothing misleading about the original vote which states
pretty clearly "This is the community graduation vote for the Apache
Onami project".
The only thing "confusing" is that you actually have to *read* the
message to know that it's a community vote. [meow] ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
>> -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...I followed this:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
>> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."...
>
> Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
> general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
> vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time
and grab a cup of coffee instead.
Cheers
> -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I followed this:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."...
Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
I had always assumed that vote proposed meant "we're thinking about
graduating - what does the community think?" and not "we've decided to
graduate, let's vote to make sure."
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> >> of Apache Onami...
> >
> > Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
> >
> > I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
>
> Its the community vote.
>
> I followed this:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."
>
> Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed.
>
>
>
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I followed this:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."...
Ok - I have now changed that to "it is wise to notify the incubator
general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the
vote to the general list as that creates confusion".
-Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
I had always assumed that vote proposed meant "we're thinking about
graduating - what does the community think?" and not "we've decided to
graduate, let's vote to make sure."
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> >> of Apache Onami...
> >
> > Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
> >
> > I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
>
> Its the community vote.
>
> I followed this:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> "It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."
>
> Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed.
>
>
>
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>> of Apache Onami...
>
> Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
>
> I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
Its the community vote.
I followed this:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
"It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."
Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed.
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> ...This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to
>> general@....
>
> ah sorry I missed that - CCing is not a good thing in this case, if
> someone wants to notify another list of an ongoing vote they should
> rather forward the original vote as an FYI, or just send a textual
> notification to avoid confusion.
>
> So, my bad, but not only ;-)
Oh yes, makes sense.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to
> general@....
ah sorry I missed that - CCing is not a good thing in this case, if
someone wants to notify another list of an ongoing vote they should
rather forward the original vote as an FYI, or just send a textual
notification to avoid confusion.
So, my bad, but not only ;-)
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi
AS you can read I used the word *should* and in the rules say
"...It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is
proposed." So Christian did the *wise* thing :D
If you don't like that, and I see your point BTW, you can propose to change
that part *not* to copy the general@ when such vote(s) are proposed
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 18.03.2013 11:35, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC
> > should be *notified* through general@
>
> This VOTE is not a requirement but is recommended. It is unlikely
> that IPMC members will vote to approve graduation unless the Mentors
> and community positively express their readiness for graduation. It
> is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed.
>
>
> I see no requirement to notify. And I still maintain it's confusing, as
> evidenced by this very case.
>
> It would make more sense if general@ were notified after the fact of the
> vote result, e.g., as an addendum to the graduation vote proposal.
> There's absolutely no call for the IPMC to poke our fingers into what
> are obviously optional, internal podling procedures. That's almost as
> bad as doing code reviews for them.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 18.03.2013 11:35, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> Hi
>
> Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC
> should be *notified* through general@
This VOTE is not a requirement but is recommended. It is unlikely
that IPMC members will vote to approve graduation unless the Mentors
and community positively express their readiness for graduation. It
is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed.
I see no requirement to notify. And I still maintain it's confusing, as
evidenced by this very case.
It would make more sense if general@ were notified after the fact of the
vote result, e.g., as an addendum to the graduation vote proposal.
There's absolutely no call for the IPMC to poke our fingers into what
are obviously optional, internal podling procedures. That's almost as
bad as doing code reviews for them.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC
should be *notified* through general@
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 18.03.2013 11:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> >> of Apache Onami...
> > Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
>
> This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to
> general@.
>
> -- Brane
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 18.03.2013 11:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>> of Apache Onami...
> Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to
general@.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
>> of Apache Onami...
>
> Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
>
> I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
Its the community vote.
I followed this:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
"It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed."
Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed.
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> of Apache Onami...
Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
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Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation
> of Apache Onami...
Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate?
I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread.
-Bertrand