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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com> on 2012/04/24 21:09:41 UTC
[DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while in Incubation
Now that CloudStack is an Apache incubation project, it feels like it
should have a mascot to help establish its own unique identity, similar to
the Hadoop elephant, Linux penguin and Tomcat um, cat.
I’d like to propose we do this in a way that allows the community to
solicit ideas of for the mascot, then to vote on the final winner from a
list of candidates. The idea is pretty simple:
a) Put out a “call for submissions” and ask community members [you] to
reply with their thoughts on what “Cloudy” should look like, and why. For
example, a submission might say “I would design Cloudy as two lightning
bolts with a blue cloud behind them. This would represent the scalability
and power of CloudStack to build real production clouds.” (Note that I’ve
been referring to the mascot as “Cloudy”, but if people have better ideas
for the name, they could suggest that as well.)
b) Have an independent designer read all the inputs, and create a
series of cool design options based on the community input.
c) Put up a website where everyone can vote on the best option. I’d
propose we do it as a tournament style bracket where the mascots face off
against each other, with the winners moving on based on community votes
until we have a final winner.
I’ve talked with the Citrix team about this. They agree with the goal and
are very supportive of making sure CloudStack looks and feels like a true
Apache project, not a commercial Citrix product. They have even volunteered
to fund the designer and website (these would not be done by Citrix
employees or have any Citrix branding – they’re only offering to fund them
to help the goal of Apache CloudStack establishing its own identity and
doing so in a fun, engaging way.)
The final decision, of course, would need to be ratified by the PPMC, so
after the community votes, we can take a vote in the PPMC to ratify their
selection. Would be a simple up or down vote to accept the entry with the
most votes.
Proposed timeline:
· “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as soon
as the PPMC approves this proposal
· Submissions would be due by the end of the month (April 30)
· Give the independent designer a week to do the designs
· Launch the voting website at the beginning of the following week
(May 7)
· Let the voting run for a couple of weeks, depending on how many
options are in the brackets
· After the voting is complete, put the winning mascot choice out
to PPMC for up/down vote to ratify (mid-to-late May)
Feels like this would be a fun and engaging way to begin establishing a
unique identity for CloudStack that’s clearly and visually independent from
Citrix, and do it in a fun, engaging way that involves the broader
community. Time is short, but if we keep to the above timeline, we could
get the voting site up and running before the Citrix Synergy conference,
which I think would be good for community optics. If folks like the general
idea, we could call for a PPMC vote to move forward quickly.
Peder
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Just one note, the mascot will not stick forever :), means that we can
change it later if the community wants, this happens oftenly when podlings
are preparing for graduation
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matt, Mohammad and David - great suggestions. 30 days seems more
> reasonable to get input and creative from the community. I'll work to get
> a wiki set up and broad outreach to get the word out for participation.
> Perhaps we can wrap this up in time for OSCON and do something fun to
> celebrate a new mascot.
>
> -peder
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 on both what David and Matt said
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that
> Apache's
> > > interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the
> > > project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like
> filing
> > > reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy
> > > community is communicate on the list and just do it.
> > >
> > > In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
> > >
> > > At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot to
> > do
> > > with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only
> > > process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it
> > doesn't
> > > sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post
> > their
> > > ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
> > >
> > > At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the
> > most
> > > votes wins :)
> > >
> > > When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was formed
> it
> > > is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
> > >
> > > Matt Hogstrom
> > > matt@hogstrom.org
> > >
> > > A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
> > >
> > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> > >
> > > >> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as
> > > soon
> > > >> as the PPMC approves this proposal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
> > > > move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
> > > > community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
> > > > otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get
> approval
> > > > and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
> > > > 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
> > > > final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
> > > > and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>
--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com>.
Thanks David for getting that up and moving, we have a number of great
submissions. Following Matt's suggestion below,
>> I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post their
>> ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
>> At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the
>> most votes wins :)
The Wiki has now been live for more than 30 days, so I was hoping we could
get something more formal from a proposal together to launch more from a
voting perspective and make it something fun that we can celebrate at
OSCON. In order to do that, we need to get the rest of the submissions in
within a week, so let's pick Wednesday 6/13 for that. From there, I'll
have them cleaned up and presented in a uniform way for votes from the
community. Does that seem reasonable?
-peder
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:40 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> Peder and I were talking over the weekend - and I noted that despite
> any feedback to the list, the wiki page had gotten a bit of interest.
> He asked me to point folks to it as he is out of pocket for a few
> days.
>
> http://wiki.cloudstack.org/display/COMM/CloudStack+mascot+proposals
>
> Feel free to add/comment/etc.
>
> I have no idea what timeline he has in mind, but figured there was
> already a ton of good content there from folks all over. Please feel
> free to add designs or comment or discuss here.
>
> --David
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Matt, Mohammad and David - great suggestions. 30 days seems more
> > reasonable to get input and creative from the community. I'll work to
> get
> > a wiki set up and broad outreach to get the word out for participation.
> > Perhaps we can wrap this up in time for OSCON and do something fun to
> > celebrate a new mascot.
> >
> > -peder
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 on both what David and Matt said
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that
> Apache's
> >> > interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the
> >> > project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like
> filing
> >> > reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy
> >> > community is communicate on the list and just do it.
> >> >
> >> > In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
> >> >
> >> > At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot
> to
> >> do
> >> > with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only
> >> > process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it
> >> doesn't
> >> > sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post
> >> their
> >> > ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
> >> >
> >> > At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the
> >> most
> >> > votes wins :)
> >> >
> >> > When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was
> formed it
> >> > is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
> >> >
> >> > Matt Hogstrom
> >> > matt@hogstrom.org
> >> >
> >> > A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev
> as
> >> > soon
> >> > >> as the PPMC approves this proposal
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
> >> > > move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
> >> > > community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
> >> > > otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get
> approval
> >> > > and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
> >> > > 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list.
> Obviously
> >> > > final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal
> component
> >> > > and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks
> >> - Mohammad Nour
> >> ----
> >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> >> - Albert Einstein
> >>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
Peder and I were talking over the weekend - and I noted that despite
any feedback to the list, the wiki page had gotten a bit of interest.
He asked me to point folks to it as he is out of pocket for a few
days.
http://wiki.cloudstack.org/display/COMM/CloudStack+mascot+proposals
Feel free to add/comment/etc.
I have no idea what timeline he has in mind, but figured there was
already a ton of good content there from folks all over. Please feel
free to add designs or comment or discuss here.
--David
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matt, Mohammad and David - great suggestions. 30 days seems more
> reasonable to get input and creative from the community. I'll work to get
> a wiki set up and broad outreach to get the word out for participation.
> Perhaps we can wrap this up in time for OSCON and do something fun to
> celebrate a new mascot.
>
> -peder
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 on both what David and Matt said
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>>
>> > David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that Apache's
>> > interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the
>> > project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like filing
>> > reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy
>> > community is communicate on the list and just do it.
>> >
>> > In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
>> >
>> > At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot to
>> do
>> > with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only
>> > process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it
>> doesn't
>> > sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post
>> their
>> > ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
>> >
>> > At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the
>> most
>> > votes wins :)
>> >
>> > When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was formed it
>> > is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
>> >
>> > Matt Hogstrom
>> > matt@hogstrom.org
>> >
>> > A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
>> >
>> > On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
>> >
>> > >> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as
>> > soon
>> > >> as the PPMC approves this proposal
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
>> > > move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
>> > > community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
>> > > otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get approval
>> > > and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
>> > > 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
>> > > final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
>> > > and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by Peder Ulander <ul...@gmail.com>.
Matt, Mohammad and David - great suggestions. 30 days seems more
reasonable to get input and creative from the community. I'll work to get
a wiki set up and broad outreach to get the word out for participation.
Perhaps we can wrap this up in time for OSCON and do something fun to
celebrate a new mascot.
-peder
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 on both what David and Matt said
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>
> > David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that Apache's
> > interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the
> > project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like filing
> > reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy
> > community is communicate on the list and just do it.
> >
> > In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
> >
> > At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot to
> do
> > with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only
> > process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it
> doesn't
> > sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post
> their
> > ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
> >
> > At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the
> most
> > votes wins :)
> >
> > When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was formed it
> > is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
> >
> > Matt Hogstrom
> > matt@hogstrom.org
> >
> > A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> >
> > >> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as
> > soon
> > >> as the PPMC approves this proposal
> > >
> > >
> > > Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
> > > move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
> > > community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
> > > otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get approval
> > > and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
> > > 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
> > > final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
> > > and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
+1 on both what David and Matt said
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that Apache's
> interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the
> project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like filing
> reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy
> community is communicate on the list and just do it.
>
> In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
>
> At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot to do
> with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only
> process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it doesn't
> sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post their
> ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
>
> At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the most
> votes wins :)
>
> When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was formed it
> is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
>
> Matt Hogstrom
> matt@hogstrom.org
>
> A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
>
> >> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as
> soon
> >> as the PPMC approves this proposal
> >
> >
> > Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
> > move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
> > community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
> > otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get approval
> > and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
> > 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
> > final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
> > and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
>
>
--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while in Incubation
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
David is right. The PPMC is really only there to make sure that Apache's interests and obligations are met. They do not really "Control" the project in as much as make sure things that need to be done (like filing reports, dealing with trademark, legal issues). A sign of a healthy community is communicate on the list and just do it.
In this case, your advocating for a logo / mascot ... +1, great idea.
At this point, the Citrix folks (no offense) really don't have a lot to do with it inasmuch as the Apache CloudStack product does. So, the only process at this point is see if anyone has an objection (so far it doesn't sound like it). I'd suggest making a Wiki page where people can post their ideas. Pick an end date, I suggest 30 days, post and wait.
At the end of the 30-days take a community vote and the logo with the most votes wins :)
When Citrix donated to the code to Apache and the community was formed it is the community that gets to decide the fate, good or bad, on its own
Matt Hogstrom
matt@hogstrom.org
A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:49 PM, David Nalley wrote:
>> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as soon
>> as the PPMC approves this proposal
>
>
> Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
> move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
> community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
> otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get approval
> and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
> 'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
> final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
> and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while
in Incubation
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as soon
> as the PPMC approves this proposal
Speaking only for myself - I don't think you need PPMC permission to
move forward with this idea - I'd of course suggest ensuring a
community consensus, making sure folks are well informed, etc. but
otherwise, just go get things done. You shouldn't need to get approval
and annointing to start getting things done IMO, especially when
'getting things done' means soliciting ideas on this list. Obviously
final decisions around identity and trademarks have a legal component
and that would be the responsibility of the PPMC.
Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while in Incubation
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Another variant would be to open the submissions for a month or so and let those that want to submit their design ideas (actual images and artwork do so) as well as ideas. It let's people be creative and strut their stuff so to speak.
Create a page on the CloudStack Incubator Wiki where people could post their ideas / submissions and then finalize them with a community vote (PPMC would ultimately be responsible for legal clearance and such).
Tweet about it and let folks know its game on.
Matt Hogstrom
matt@hogstrom.org
A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:19 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
> Sounds good - less than a week for submissions (I'm presuming PPMC approval will take a day or two) seems tight...but if this goes the way paper submissions go, 80% of the submissions will be on the last day, anyways. Just need to make sure we get the word out to folks.
>
> John
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Peder Ulander wrote:
>
>> Now that CloudStack is an Apache incubation project, it feels like it
>> should have a mascot to help establish its own unique identity, similar to
>> the Hadoop elephant, Linux penguin and Tomcat um, cat.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to propose we do this in a way that allows the community to
>> solicit ideas of for the mascot, then to vote on the final winner from a
>> list of candidates. The idea is pretty simple:
>>
>>
>>
>> a) Put out a “call for submissions” and ask community members [you] to
>> reply with their thoughts on what “Cloudy” should look like, and why. For
>> example, a submission might say “I would design Cloudy as two lightning
>> bolts with a blue cloud behind them. This would represent the scalability
>> and power of CloudStack to build real production clouds.” (Note that I’ve
>> been referring to the mascot as “Cloudy”, but if people have better ideas
>> for the name, they could suggest that as well.)
>>
>>
>>
>> b) Have an independent designer read all the inputs, and create a
>> series of cool design options based on the community input.
>>
>>
>>
>> c) Put up a website where everyone can vote on the best option. I’d
>> propose we do it as a tournament style bracket where the mascots face off
>> against each other, with the winners moving on based on community votes
>> until we have a final winner.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve talked with the Citrix team about this. They agree with the goal and
>> are very supportive of making sure CloudStack looks and feels like a true
>> Apache project, not a commercial Citrix product. They have even volunteered
>> to fund the designer and website (these would not be done by Citrix
>> employees or have any Citrix branding – they’re only offering to fund them
>> to help the goal of Apache CloudStack establishing its own identity and
>> doing so in a fun, engaging way.)
>>
>>
>>
>> The final decision, of course, would need to be ratified by the PPMC, so
>> after the community votes, we can take a vote in the PPMC to ratify their
>> selection. Would be a simple up or down vote to accept the entry with the
>> most votes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proposed timeline:
>>
>>
>>
>> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as soon
>> as the PPMC approves this proposal
>>
>> · Submissions would be due by the end of the month (April 30)
>>
>> · Give the independent designer a week to do the designs
>>
>> · Launch the voting website at the beginning of the following week
>> (May 7)
>>
>> · Let the voting run for a couple of weeks, depending on how many
>> options are in the brackets
>>
>> · After the voting is complete, put the winning mascot choice out
>> to PPMC for up/down vote to ratify (mid-to-late May)
>>
>>
>>
>> Feels like this would be a fun and engaging way to begin establishing a
>> unique identity for CloudStack that’s clearly and visually independent from
>> Citrix, and do it in a fun, engaging way that involves the broader
>> community. Time is short, but if we keep to the above timeline, we could
>> get the voting site up and running before the Citrix Synergy conference,
>> which I think would be good for community optics. If folks like the general
>> idea, we could call for a PPMC vote to move forward quickly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peder
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack
while in Incubation
Posted by Haroon Abdelrahman <ha...@citrix.com>.
The ancient greeks had a "god" of the clouds and they called it Zeus. The
roman counterpart is Jupiter.
Haroon
On 4/24/12 12:19 PM, "John Kinsella" <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
>Sounds good - less than a week for submissions (I'm presuming PPMC
>approval will take a day or two) seems tight...but if this goes the way
>paper submissions go, 80% of the submissions will be on the last day,
>anyways. Just need to make sure we get the word out to folks.
>
>John
>
>On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Peder Ulander wrote:
>
>> Now that CloudStack is an Apache incubation project, it feels like it
>> should have a mascot to help establish its own unique identity, similar
>>to
>> the Hadoop elephant, Linux penguin and Tomcat um, cat.
>>
>>
>>
>> I¹d like to propose we do this in a way that allows the community to
>> solicit ideas of for the mascot, then to vote on the final winner from a
>> list of candidates. The idea is pretty simple:
>>
>>
>>
>> a) Put out a ³call for submissions² and ask community members
>>[you] to
>> reply with their thoughts on what ³Cloudy² should look like, and why.
>>For
>> example, a submission might say ³I would design Cloudy as two lightning
>> bolts with a blue cloud behind them. This would represent the
>>scalability
>> and power of CloudStack to build real production clouds.² (Note that
>>I¹ve
>> been referring to the mascot as ³Cloudy², but if people have better
>>ideas
>> for the name, they could suggest that as well.)
>>
>>
>>
>> b) Have an independent designer read all the inputs, and create a
>> series of cool design options based on the community input.
>>
>>
>>
>> c) Put up a website where everyone can vote on the best option.
>>I¹d
>> propose we do it as a tournament style bracket where the mascots face
>>off
>> against each other, with the winners moving on based on community votes
>> until we have a final winner.
>>
>>
>>
>> I¹ve talked with the Citrix team about this. They agree with the goal
>>and
>> are very supportive of making sure CloudStack looks and feels like a
>>true
>> Apache project, not a commercial Citrix product. They have even
>>volunteered
>> to fund the designer and website (these would not be done by Citrix
>> employees or have any Citrix branding they¹re only offering to fund
>>them
>> to help the goal of Apache CloudStack establishing its own identity and
>> doing so in a fun, engaging way.)
>>
>>
>>
>> The final decision, of course, would need to be ratified by the PPMC, so
>> after the community votes, we can take a vote in the PPMC to ratify
>>their
>> selection. Would be a simple up or down vote to accept the entry with
>>the
>> most votes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proposed timeline:
>>
>>
>>
>> · ³Call for Submissions² to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as
>>soon
>> as the PPMC approves this proposal
>>
>> · Submissions would be due by the end of the month (April 30)
>>
>> · Give the independent designer a week to do the designs
>>
>> · Launch the voting website at the beginning of the following
>>week
>> (May 7)
>>
>> · Let the voting run for a couple of weeks, depending on how
>>many
>> options are in the brackets
>>
>> · After the voting is complete, put the winning mascot choice
>>out
>> to PPMC for up/down vote to ratify (mid-to-late May)
>>
>>
>>
>> Feels like this would be a fun and engaging way to begin establishing a
>> unique identity for CloudStack that¹s clearly and visually independent
>>from
>> Citrix, and do it in a fun, engaging way that involves the broader
>> community. Time is short, but if we keep to the above timeline, we could
>> get the voting site up and running before the Citrix Synergy conference,
>> which I think would be good for community optics. If folks like the
>>general
>> idea, we could call for a PPMC vote to move forward quickly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peder
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] proposal to select a mascot for Apache CloudStack while in Incubation
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
Sounds good - less than a week for submissions (I'm presuming PPMC approval will take a day or two) seems tight...but if this goes the way paper submissions go, 80% of the submissions will be on the last day, anyways. Just need to make sure we get the word out to folks.
John
On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Peder Ulander wrote:
> Now that CloudStack is an Apache incubation project, it feels like it
> should have a mascot to help establish its own unique identity, similar to
> the Hadoop elephant, Linux penguin and Tomcat um, cat.
>
>
>
> I’d like to propose we do this in a way that allows the community to
> solicit ideas of for the mascot, then to vote on the final winner from a
> list of candidates. The idea is pretty simple:
>
>
>
> a) Put out a “call for submissions” and ask community members [you] to
> reply with their thoughts on what “Cloudy” should look like, and why. For
> example, a submission might say “I would design Cloudy as two lightning
> bolts with a blue cloud behind them. This would represent the scalability
> and power of CloudStack to build real production clouds.” (Note that I’ve
> been referring to the mascot as “Cloudy”, but if people have better ideas
> for the name, they could suggest that as well.)
>
>
>
> b) Have an independent designer read all the inputs, and create a
> series of cool design options based on the community input.
>
>
>
> c) Put up a website where everyone can vote on the best option. I’d
> propose we do it as a tournament style bracket where the mascots face off
> against each other, with the winners moving on based on community votes
> until we have a final winner.
>
>
>
> I’ve talked with the Citrix team about this. They agree with the goal and
> are very supportive of making sure CloudStack looks and feels like a true
> Apache project, not a commercial Citrix product. They have even volunteered
> to fund the designer and website (these would not be done by Citrix
> employees or have any Citrix branding – they’re only offering to fund them
> to help the goal of Apache CloudStack establishing its own identity and
> doing so in a fun, engaging way.)
>
>
>
> The final decision, of course, would need to be ratified by the PPMC, so
> after the community votes, we can take a vote in the PPMC to ratify their
> selection. Would be a simple up or down vote to accept the entry with the
> most votes.
>
>
>
> Proposed timeline:
>
>
>
> · “Call for Submissions” to be sent out to cloudstack-dev as soon
> as the PPMC approves this proposal
>
> · Submissions would be due by the end of the month (April 30)
>
> · Give the independent designer a week to do the designs
>
> · Launch the voting website at the beginning of the following week
> (May 7)
>
> · Let the voting run for a couple of weeks, depending on how many
> options are in the brackets
>
> · After the voting is complete, put the winning mascot choice out
> to PPMC for up/down vote to ratify (mid-to-late May)
>
>
>
> Feels like this would be a fun and engaging way to begin establishing a
> unique identity for CloudStack that’s clearly and visually independent from
> Citrix, and do it in a fun, engaging way that involves the broader
> community. Time is short, but if we keep to the above timeline, we could
> get the voting site up and running before the Citrix Synergy conference,
> which I think would be good for community optics. If folks like the general
> idea, we could call for a PPMC vote to move forward quickly.
>
>
>
> Peder
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