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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com> on 2009/04/19 18:31:11 UTC
Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Hello All:
I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
Congratulations - it is World class!
I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
component to the application section of the framework. After a brief
search of the mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
collaborative tools for sometime) and documentation I have the following
question:
Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
Regards,
Ruth Hoffman
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Michael:
I agree concerning the SaaS model.
Ruth
Michael Xu (xudong) wrote:
> hi Ruth,
>
> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael Xu (xudong)
> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 0135
> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Hi David:
>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a useful
>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz components.
>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file necessary
>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for the
>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>
>> Ruth
>>
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory. When
>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that have
>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for that
>>> component.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All:
>>>
>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>
>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom component
>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of the
>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>
>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Mustansar Mehmood <mu...@hrshaikh.com>.
+1
It does make sense to keep the deployment independent of IDE's.
If an IDE can not deal with a well written ant or maven build
files(build.xml/pom.xml) then developers need not to depend sp much on IDE's
Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi Aswath:
> There are a few reasons why I'd want to do this as part of OFBiz and
> not Eclipse:
> 1) If done as part of Eclipse, I would need to maintain both OFBiz and
> Eclipse code or at/least continually test both and keep in synch.
> 2) Not everyone uses Eclipse - or an IDE for that matter. Why force
> someone to install and maintain an Eclipse instance just to get this
> functionality?
> 3) From experience, I have found that offloading tasks such as this to
> an IDE is a recipe for failure or at least a recipe to buy more
> equipment and more unnecessary supporting software. For example, I
> recently did some work with IBM Websphere & RAD7 - which is just
> Eclipse on steroids. In order to use RAD7, in needed one of the
> following: a Windows XP system, SuSe/Redhat Linux or AIX. A little
> frustrating for me since I like developing with Eclipse on a MAC. But,
> I couldn't even get started with the project until I had RAD7
> installed. The manager for the project insisted that I use
> RAD7...anyhow, I think you see where I'm going. I've seen this sort of
> think happen over and over again.
> Just my 2.
> Ruth
> aswath narayana wrote:
>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in
>> OFBiz.
>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we
>> start
>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>
>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in
>> building
>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>> structure and
>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>
>> -Aswath
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> hi Ruth,
>>>
>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>> Confluence's
>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>>> 0135
>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi David:
>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>>>>
>>> useful
>>>
>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>>>>
>>> components.
>>>
>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>> directory
>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>>
>>> necessary
>>>
>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow
>>>> for
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
>>>>>
>>> When
>>>
>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
>>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>>> component.
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>>>>>>
>>> component
>>>
>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>>>>> tools for
>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework -
>>>>>> or is
>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Aswath:
There are a few reasons why I'd want to do this as part of OFBiz and not
Eclipse:
1) If done as part of Eclipse, I would need to maintain both OFBiz and
Eclipse code or at/least continually test both and keep in synch.
2) Not everyone uses Eclipse - or an IDE for that matter. Why force
someone to install and maintain an Eclipse instance just to get this
functionality?
3) From experience, I have found that offloading tasks such as this to
an IDE is a recipe for failure or at least a recipe to buy more
equipment and more unnecessary supporting software. For example, I
recently did some work with IBM Websphere & RAD7 - which is just Eclipse
on steroids. In order to use RAD7, in needed one of the following: a
Windows XP system, SuSe/Redhat Linux or AIX. A little frustrating for me
since I like developing with Eclipse on a MAC. But, I couldn't even get
started with the project until I had RAD7 installed. The manager for the
project insisted that I use RAD7...anyhow, I think you see where I'm
going. I've seen this sort of think happen over and over again.
Just my 2.
Ruth
aswath narayana wrote:
> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in OFBiz.
> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we start
> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>
> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in building
> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure and
> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>
> -Aswath
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>
>
>> hi Ruth,
>>
>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>> 0135
>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi David:
>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>>>
>> useful
>>
>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>>>
>> components.
>>
>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>
>> necessary
>>
>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
>>>>
>> When
>>
>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that
>>>>
>> have
>>
>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>> component.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>>>>>
>> component
>>
>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Marc Morin <ma...@emforium.com>.
Hey, an Eclipse plugin that understand the OFBiz xml file structures and relationships between screens, controllers, loaders, forms, menus, minilang, servicedefs,... that would be awesome!
I know that's not what were talking about, but developing an application on OFBiz in Eclipse is very "unsatisfying". Continually, using the workspace search.... refactoring screens, properties, .....
I've never done any Eclipse plugin work before, anybody else have a comment on difficulty involved?
----- Original Message -----
From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:42:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in OFBiz.
OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we start
doing component development within OFBiz itself.
An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in building
of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure and
ability to create database and view entities visually).
-Aswath
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
<do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
> hi Ruth,
>
> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael Xu (xudong)
> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
> 0135
> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David:
> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
> useful
> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
> components.
> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
> necessary
> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for
> the
> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
> >
> > Ruth
> >
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
> When
> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that
> have
> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
> that
> >> component.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello All:
> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
> >>>
> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
> component
> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
> the
> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
> >>>
> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Ruth Hoffman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Mustansar Mehmood <mu...@hrshaikh.com>.
+1
eclipse pulgin is a better idea where an application developer will have
the
and recommend directory structures and classpath variables set.
access to the necessary framework API's hence no need to write the same
code to register application with the framework again and again by hand.
Application will developers will get more chance to focus on the
business logic of the application than rewriting(by hand) the code which
is pretty much same for every application.
Also, ofbiz best practices regarding accessing the framework can be
enforced
This will help the framework to become more and more evolved and
applications can
Mustansar
aswath narayana wrote:
> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in OFBiz.
> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we start
> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>
> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in building
> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure and
> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>
> -Aswath
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>
>
>> hi Ruth,
>>
>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>> 0135
>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi David:
>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>>>
>> useful
>>
>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>>>
>> components.
>>
>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>
>> necessary
>>
>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
>>>>
>> When
>>
>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that
>>>>
>> have
>>
>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>> component.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>>>>>
>> component
>>
>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Jacques:
Just read the guidelines for JIRA use. Thanks.
I only briefly looked at the Neogia documentation. I need to go back and
review more thoroughly to see if this is what I had in mind.
Thanks again.
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> You are welcome Ruth,
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices
>
> Did you have a look at Neogia team work ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@aesolves.com>
>> Hi Tim:
>> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA process?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>>> derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
>>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea
>>> of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be
>>> all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it
>>> has to be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>>
>>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>>> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>>> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> Add-on
>>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
>>>> ofbiz,
>>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
>>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
>>>> driven
>>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
>>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> softwares, then
>>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> chosen
>>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
>>>> in
>>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
>>>> cannot.)
>>>>
>>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
>>>> with a
>>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>>>> 135 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
>>>>>
>>>> working
>>>>
>>>>> on this.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>>
>>>> component
>>>>
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>> * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>> * It's not yet finished
>>>>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>>
>>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
>>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
>>>>>>>
>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>>
>>>> structure
>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
>>>>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>>
>>>> helpful to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>
>>>> (86) 135
>>>>
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> if a
>>>>
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> file
>>>>
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> allow
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> sub-directories
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> resources for
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> number of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> custom
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> search of
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> - or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
You are welcome Ruth,
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices
Did you have a look at Neogia team work ?
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@aesolves.com>
> Hi Tim:
> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an insider, how would you recommend getting started with the
> JIRA process?
> Regards,
> Ruth
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other, derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it
>> would be all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to be driven by the people contributing the
>> code.
>>
>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one
>> already there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> --
>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>
>> o:801.649.6594
>> f:801.649.6595
>>
>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>> Add-on
>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>
>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
>>> ofbiz,
>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
>>> driven
>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>
>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>> softwares, then
>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>> chosen
>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
>>> in
>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
>>> cannot.)
>>>
>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
>>> with a
>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>>> 135 0135
>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
>>>>
>>> working
>>>
>>>> on this.
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>
>>> component
>>>
>>>>> structure
>>>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>> * ant create-component is the task
>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
>>>>>
>>> OFBiz
>>>
>>>>> * It's not yet finished
>>>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>
>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>
>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
>>>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
>>>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
>>>>>>
>>> we
>>>
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
>>>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>>>> building
>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>
>>> structure
>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
>>>>>>>
>>> new
>>>
>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>
>>> helpful to
>>>
>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>
>>> (86) 135
>>>
>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>
>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
>>>>>>>>
>>> if a
>>>
>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>
>>> OFBiz
>>>
>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>
>>> file
>>>
>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>
>>> allow
>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>
>>> directory.
>>>
>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>
>>> sub-directories
>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>
>>> resources for
>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> number of
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> custom
>>>
>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> search of
>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> tools
>>>
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> - or
>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Tim, I have been told over and over not to create a Jira for Discussion
but to use the Mailing list.
has this policy changed?
Tim Ruppert sent the following on 4/21/2009 6:56 AM:
> > Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it. You'll
have lots of people there to comment on it I'm sure.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Ruppert
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > o:801.649.6594
> > f:801.649.6595
> >
> > ----- "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@aesolves.com> wrote:
> >
>> >> Hi Tim:
>> >> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>> >>
>> >> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
>> >> process?
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Ruth
>> >> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> >>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>> >> derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
>> >> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of
>> >> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
>> >> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
>> >> be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>> >>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>> >> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>> >> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>> Tim
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Tim Ruppert
>>> >>> HotWax Media
>>> >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> o:801.649.6594
>>> >>> f:801.649.6595
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> >>>> Add-on
>>>> >>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
>> >> of
>>>> >>>> ofbiz,
>>>> >>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in
>> >> ofbiz
>>>> >>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
>> >> domain
>>>> >>>> driven
>>>> >>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
>> >> that
>>>> >>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> >>>> softwares, then
>>>> >>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> >>>> chosen
>>>> >>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
>> >> trunk
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
>> >> just
>>>> >>>> cannot.)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
>> >> up
>>>> >>>> with a
>>>> >>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
>> >> point
>>>> >>>> :-)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> Regards,
>>>> >>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> >>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> >> (86)
>>>> >>>> 135 0135
>>>> >>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> >>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
>> >> was
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> working
>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> on this.
>>>>> >>>>> Ruth
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> component
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> structure
>>>>>> >>>>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>> >>>>>> * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
>> >> for
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> OFBiz
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> * It's not yet finished
>>>>>> >>>>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an
option
>> >> to
>>>>>> >>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>> >>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>> >>>>>> **
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
>> >> above
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> can
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
>> >> components
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and
maintainance,
>> >> when
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
>> >> help
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> structure
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with
JIRA and
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
>> >> install/uninstall
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> new
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> helpful to
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 |
Mobile:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> (86) 135
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
>> >> wondering
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> if a
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to
manage
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> OFBiz
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
>> >> basic
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the
ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> file
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be
extended to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> allow
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you
think?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the
"hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> directory.
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> sub-directories
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to
load
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> resources for
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache
site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years
now for a
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> number of
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a
requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> custom
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework.
After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> search of
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> >> collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> tools
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following
question:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
>> >> framework
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> - or
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
>> >> webtool
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>
> >
> >
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Tim, I have been told over and over not to create a Jira for Discussion
but to use the Mailing list.
has this policy changed?
Tim Ruppert sent the following on 4/21/2009 6:56 AM:
> Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it. You'll have lots of people there to comment on it I'm sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@aesolves.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim:
>> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>>
>> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
>> process?
>> Regards,
>> Ruth
>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
>> derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
>> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of
>> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
>> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
>> be driven by the people contributing the code.
>>> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
>> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
>> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>> --
>>> Tim Ruppert
>>> HotWax Media
>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>
>>> o:801.649.6594
>>> f:801.649.6595
>>>
>>> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>>>> Add-on
>>>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
>> of
>>>> ofbiz,
>>>> are having more and more features which actually should be in
>> ofbiz
>>>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
>> domain
>>>> driven
>>>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
>> that
>>>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>>>> softwares, then
>>>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>>>> chosen
>>>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
>> trunk
>>>> in
>>>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
>> just
>>>> cannot.)
>>>>
>>>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
>> up
>>>> with a
>>>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
>> point
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> (86)
>>>> 135 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jacques:
>>>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
>> was
>>>>>
>>>> working
>>>>
>>>>> on this.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>>>
>>>> component
>>>>
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>>>> * ant create-component is the task
>>>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
>> for
>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>> * It's not yet finished
>>>>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option
>> to
>>>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>>>
>>>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
>> above
>>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>>
>>>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
>> components
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance,
>> when
>>>>>>>
>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
>> help
>>>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>>>
>>>> structure
>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
>> install/uninstall
>>>>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>>>
>>>> helpful to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>>
>>>> (86) 135
>>>>
>>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> if a
>>>>
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> OFBiz
>>>>
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
>> basic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> file
>>>>
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> allow
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> sub-directories
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> resources for
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> number of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> custom
>>>>
>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> search of
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> collaborative
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
>> framework
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> - or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
>> webtool
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Please just create a JIRA issue and then get rolling on it. You'll have lots of people there to comment on it I'm sure.
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
----- "Ruth Hoffman" <rh...@aesolves.com> wrote:
> Hi Tim:
> I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
>
> insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA
> process?
> Regards,
> Ruth
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
> > Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other,
> derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of
> adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all
> that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to
> be driven by the people contributing the code.
> >
> > Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for
> implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already
> there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Ruppert
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > o:801.649.6594
> > f:801.649.6595
> >
> > ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
> >> Add-on
> >> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
> >>
> >> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top
> of
> >> ofbiz,
> >> are having more and more features which actually should be in
> ofbiz
> >> framework or core application level, like Add-on management,
> domain
> >> driven
> >> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not
> that
> >> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
> >>
> >> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
> >> softwares, then
> >> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
> >> chosen
> >> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz
> trunk
> >> in
> >> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we
> just
> >> cannot.)
> >>
> >> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come
> up
> >> with a
> >> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this
> point
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Michael Xu (xudong)
> >> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
> (86)
> >> 135 0135
> >> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
> >> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Jacques:
> >>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone
> was
> >>>
> >> working
> >>
> >>> on this.
> >>> Ruth
> >>>
> >>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> At this stage 2 points :
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
> >>>>
> >> component
> >>
> >>>> structure
> >>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
> >>>> * ant create-component is the task
> >>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons
> for
> >>>>
> >> OFBiz
> >>
> >>>> * It's not yet finished
> >>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option
> to
> >>>> translate in English using when only in French)
> >>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
> >>>> **
> >>>>
> >> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
> >>
> >>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
> >>>>
> >>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents
> above
> >>>>
> >> can
> >>
> >>>> give you an idea of the concept
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH
> >>>>
> >>>> Jacques
> >>>>
> >>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of
> components
> >>>>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>>>> OFBiz.
> >>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance,
> when
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> start
> >>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will
> help
> >>>>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>>>> building
> >>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
> >>>>>
> >> structure
> >>
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Aswath
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
> >>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hi Ruth,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
> >>>>>> Confluence's
> >>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to
> install/uninstall
> >>>>>>
> >> new
> >>
> >>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
> >>>>>>
> >> helpful to
> >>
> >>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
> >>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
> >>>>>>
> >> (86) 135
> >>
> >>>>>> 0135
> >>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
> >>>>>>
> >> <rh...@aesolves.com>
> >>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi David:
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm
> wondering
> >>>>>>>
> >> if a
> >>
> >>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
> >>>>>>>
> >> OFBiz
> >>
> >>>>>> components.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
> basic
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> directory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
> >>>>>>>
> >> file
> >>
> >>>>>> necessary
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
> >>>>>>>
> >> allow
> >>
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ruth
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
> >>>>>>>>
> >> directory.
> >>
> >>>>>> When
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
> >>>>>>>>
> >> sub-directories
> >>
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
> >>>>>>>>
> >> resources for
> >>
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> component.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello All:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
> >>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> number of
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> custom
> >>
> >>>>>> component
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> search of
> >>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
> collaborative
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> tools
> >>
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the
> framework
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> - or
> >>
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious
> webtool
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> or
> >>
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Tim:
I'd be interested and available to work on something like this. As an
insider, how would you recommend getting started with the JIRA process?
Regards,
Ruth
Tim Ruppert wrote:
> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other, derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to be driven by the people contributing the code.
>
> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>> Add-on
>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>
>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
>> ofbiz,
>> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
>> driven
>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>
>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>> softwares, then
>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>> chosen
>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
>> in
>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
>> cannot.)
>>
>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
>> with a
>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>> 135 0135
>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jacques:
>>> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
>>>
>> working
>>
>>> on this.
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> At this stage 2 points :
>>>>
>>>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>>>>
>> component
>>
>>>> structure
>>>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>>>> * ant create-component is the task
>>>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
>>>>
>> OFBiz
>>
>>>> * It's not yet finished
>>>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>>>> translate in English using when only in French)
>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>>>> **
>>>>
>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>>
>>>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>>>
>>>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
>>>>
>> can
>>
>>>> give you an idea of the concept
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
>>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>>> OFBiz.
>>>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> start
>>>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
>>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>>> building
>>>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>>>>>
>> structure
>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>>>
>>>>> -Aswath
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>>>> Confluence's
>>>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
>>>>>>
>> new
>>
>>>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>>>>>>
>> helpful to
>>
>>>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>
>> (86) 135
>>
>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>
>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi David:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
>>>>>>>
>> if a
>>
>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>>>>>>>
>> OFBiz
>>
>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>>>>>>>
>> file
>>
>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>>>>>>
>> allow
>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>>>>>>>
>> directory.
>>
>>>>>> When
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>>>>>>>
>> sub-directories
>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>>>>>>>>
>> resources for
>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>>>>>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>>>>>>>>
>> number of
>>
>>>>>>>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>>>>>>>>>
>> custom
>>
>>>>>> component
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>>>>>>>>
>> search of
>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>>>>>>>>
>> tools
>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
>>>>>>>>>
>> - or
>>
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
>>>>>>>>>
>> or
>>
>>>>>> other
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
And also please discuss in ML before creating a new Jira issue...
Jacques
From: "Tim Ruppert" <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other, derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many
> deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would
> be all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to be driven by the people contributing the code.
>
> Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one
> already there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
> --
> Tim Ruppert
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> o:801.649.6594
> f:801.649.6595
>
> ----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
>> Add-on
>> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>>
>> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
>> ofbiz,
>> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
>> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
>> driven
>> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
>> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>>
>> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
>> softwares, then
>> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
>> chosen
>> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
>> in
>> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
>> cannot.)
>>
>> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
>> with a
>> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>> 135 0135
>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
>> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Jacques:
>> > Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
>> working
>> > on this.
>> > Ruth
>> >
>> > Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> >
>> >> At this stage 2 points :
>> >>
>> >> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
>> component
>> >> structure
>> >> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>> >> * ant create-component is the task
>> >> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
>> OFBiz
>> >> * It's not yet finished
>> >> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>> >> translate in English using when only in French)
>> >> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>> >> **
>> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>> >> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>> >>
>> >> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
>> can
>> >> give you an idea of the concept
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >>
>> >> Jacques
>> >>
>> >> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
>> in
>> >>> OFBiz.
>> >>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
>> we
>> >>> start
>> >>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>> >>>
>> >>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
>> in
>> >>> building
>> >>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>> structure
>> >>> and
>> >>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>> >>>
>> >>> -Aswath
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>> >>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> hi Ruth,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>> >>>> Confluence's
>> >>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
>> new
>> >>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
>> helpful to
>> >>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> >>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>> (86) 135
>> >>>> 0135
>> >>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
>> <rh...@aesolves.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Hi David:
>> >>>> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
>> if a
>> >>>> useful
>> >>>> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
>> OFBiz
>> >>>> components.
>> >>>> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>> >>>> directory
>> >>>> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
>> file
>> >>>> necessary
>> >>>> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>> allow
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Ruth
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > David E Jones wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>> directory.
>> >>>> When
>> >>>> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>> sub-directories
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> have
>> >>>> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
>> resources for
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> >> component.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> -David
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Hello All:
>> >>>> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>> >>>> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>> number of
>> >>>> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
>> custom
>> >>>> component
>> >>>> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>> search of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>> tools
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
>> - or
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
>> or
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>> >>> Ruth Hoffman
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Tim Ruppert <ti...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Now you can see why some of us don't spend time on those other, derivative software packages. There are some benefits, but many deterrents, so you have to weigh those. I personally like the idea of adding Add-on management to OFBiz and I doubt that it would be all that difficult, but as is the case with everything in OFBiz, it has to be driven by the people contributing the code.
Anyways, I know this doesn't get you the feature you're looking for implemented yet, but make a JIRA issue if there isn't one already there, and it's likely to get worked on before too long.
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595
----- "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
> I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such
> Add-on
> management or do we have any plan for this feature?
>
> Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of
> ofbiz,
> are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
> framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain
> driven
> support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
> technical, so maybe I am wrong)
>
> As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those
> softwares, then
> we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that
> chosen
> software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk
> in
> every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
> cannot.)
>
> I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up
> with a
> solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point
> :-)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael Xu (xudong)
> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
> 135 0135
> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman
> <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi Jacques:
> > Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
> working
> > on this.
> > Ruth
> >
> > Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >
> >> At this stage 2 points :
> >>
> >> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a
> component
> >> structure
> >> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
> >> * ant create-component is the task
> >> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for
> OFBiz
> >> * It's not yet finished
> >> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
> >> translate in English using when only in French)
> >> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
> >> **
> http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
> >> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
> >>
> >> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above
> can
> >> give you an idea of the concept
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Jacques
> >>
> >> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components
> in
> >>> OFBiz.
> >>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when
> we
> >>> start
> >>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
> >>>
> >>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help
> in
> >>> building
> >>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
> structure
> >>> and
> >>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
> >>>
> >>> -Aswath
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
> >>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hi Ruth,
> >>>>
> >>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
> >>>> Confluence's
> >>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall
> new
> >>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more
> helpful to
> >>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
> >>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
> (86) 135
> >>>> 0135
> >>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman
> <rh...@aesolves.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Hi David:
> >>>> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering
> if a
> >>>> useful
> >>>> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage
> OFBiz
> >>>> components.
> >>>> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
> >>>> directory
> >>>> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml
> file
> >>>> necessary
> >>>> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
> allow
> >>>> for
> >>>> the
> >>>> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ruth
> >>>> >
> >>>> > David E Jones wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
> directory.
> >>>> When
> >>>> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
> sub-directories
> >>>> that
> >>>> have
> >>>> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load
> resources for
> >>>> that
> >>>> >> component.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -David
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Hello All:
> >>>> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
> >>>> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
> number of
> >>>> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a
> custom
> >>>> component
> >>>> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
> search of
> >>>> the
> >>>> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
> tools
> >>>> for
> >>>> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework
> - or
> >>>> is
> >>>> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool
> or
> >>>> other
> >>>> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Regards,
> >>>> >>> Ruth Hoffman
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com>.
I have the same question as Ruth had: Is anyone working on such Add-on
management or do we have any plan for this feature?
Furthermore, now I can see some other softwares, which are on top of ofbiz,
are having more and more features which actually should be in ofbiz
framework or core application level, like Add-on management, domain driven
support, Ajax, more friendly report or dashboard, etc. (I am not that
technical, so maybe I am wrong)
As end customer or service vendor, if we choose any of those softwares, then
we have to face a big problem that is how to sync ofbiz and that chosen
software. (Normally, those softwares will get synced with ofbiz trunk in
every big release. That means we have to wait...but sometimes we just
cannot.)
I know it is easy to just throw such a question but hard to come up with a
solution. But I still want to know what's your thought at this point :-)
--
Regards,
Michael Xu (xudong)
www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 0135
9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>wrote:
> Hi Jacques:
> Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was working
> on this.
> Ruth
>
> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> At this stage 2 points :
>>
>> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a component
>> structure
>> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
>> * ant create-component is the task
>> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for OFBiz
>> * It's not yet finished
>> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
>> translate in English using when only in French)
>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
>> ** http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
>> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>>
>> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above can
>> give you an idea of the concept
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in
>>> OFBiz.
>>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we
>>> start
>>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>>
>>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in
>>> building
>>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure
>>> and
>>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>>
>>> -Aswath
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Ruth,
>>>>
>>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>>> Confluence's
>>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>>>> 0135
>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi David:
>>>> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>>>> useful
>>>> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>>>> components.
>>>> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>>> directory
>>>> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>>> necessary
>>>> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow
>>>> for
>>>> the
>>>> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>>> >
>>>> > Ruth
>>>> >
>>>> > David E Jones wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
>>>> When
>>>> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories
>>>> that
>>>> have
>>>> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
>>>> that
>>>> >> component.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -David
>>>> >>
>>>> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hello All:
>>>> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>>> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>>> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>>>> component
>>>> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
>>>> the
>>>> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools
>>>> for
>>>> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or
>>>> is
>>>> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or
>>>> other
>>>> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>> >>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Jacques:
Thanks for the update. This is what I was wondering - if anyone was
working on this.
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> At this stage 2 points :
>
> 1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a component
> structure
> * ant -help and * ant -projecthelp are your friends
> * ant create-component is the task
> 2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for OFBiz
> * It's not yet finished
> * But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to
> translate in English using when only in French)
> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
> ** http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
> ** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
>
> Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above can
> give you an idea of the concept
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>> I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in
>> OFBiz.
>> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we
>> start
>> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>>
>> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in
>> building
>> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory
>> structure and
>> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>>
>> -Aswath
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>
>>> hi Ruth,
>>>
>>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and
>>> Confluence's
>>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>>> 0135
>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi David:
>>> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>>> useful
>>> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>>> components.
>>> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic
>>> directory
>>> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>>> necessary
>>> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to
>>> allow for
>>> the
>>> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>>> >
>>> > Ruth
>>> >
>>> > David E Jones wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy"
>>> directory.
>>> When
>>> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
>>> sub-directories that
>>> have
>>> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources
>>> for
>>> that
>>> >> component.
>>> >>
>>> >> -David
>>> >>
>>> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello All:
>>> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a
>>> number of
>>> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>>> component
>>> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>>> search of
>>> the
>>> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative
>>> tools for
>>> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework -
>>> or is
>>> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or
>>> other
>>> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>> Ruth Hoffman
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
At this stage 2 points :
1) In OFBiz, there is already a basic ant task to create a component structure
* ant -help and
* ant -projecthelp are your friends
* ant create-component is the task
2) Currently the Neogia team is buildind a concept of add-ons for OFBiz
* It's not yet finished
* But promising, see (mostly in French but there is an option to translate in English using when only in French)
** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager_Design
** http://www.neogia.org/OFBiz_add-on/fr#Qu.27est_ce_qu.27un_Addon
** http://www.neogia.org/Add-on_Manager
Beware I don't think it's operational yet, but the documents above can give you an idea of the concept
HTH
Jacques
From: "aswath narayana" <as...@gmail.com>
>I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in OFBiz.
> OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we start
> doing component development within OFBiz itself.
>
> An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in building
> of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure and
> ability to create database and view entities visually).
>
> -Aswath
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
> <do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>
>> hi Ruth,
>>
>> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
>> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
>> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
>> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
>> 0135
>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi David:
>> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
>> useful
>> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
>> components.
>> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
>> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
>> necessary
>> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for
>> the
>> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>> >
>> > Ruth
>> >
>> > David E Jones wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
>> When
>> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that
>> have
>> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
>> that
>> >> component.
>> >>
>> >> -David
>> >>
>> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello All:
>> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>> component
>> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
>> the
>> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
>> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Ruth Hoffman
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by aswath narayana <as...@gmail.com>.
I think it will be a good idea to do administration of components in OFBiz.
OFBiz might get bloated with infrastructure and maintainance, when we start
doing component development within OFBiz itself.
An alternate would be to have a plugin in Eclipse that will help in building
of OFBiz components (A wizard interface to build a directory structure and
ability to create database and view entities visually).
-Aswath
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Michael Xu (xudong)
<do...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
> hi Ruth,
>
> I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
> plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
> component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
> promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael Xu (xudong)
> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135
> 0135
> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David:
> > Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
> useful
> > addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
> components.
> > I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
> > structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file
> necessary
> > to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for
> the
> > (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
> >
> > Ruth
> >
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
> When
> >> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that
> have
> >> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for
> that
> >> component.
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello All:
> >>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
> >>> Congratulations - it is World class!
> >>>
> >>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
> >>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
> component
> >>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of
> the
> >>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
> >>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
> >>>
> >>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
> >>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
> >>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Ruth Hoffman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by "Michael Xu (xudong)" <do...@wizitsoft.com>.
hi Ruth,
I really like your idea, which is very similar with JIRA and Confluence's
plugin model. If users can use such a wizard to install/uninstall new
component on the fly (without restart), that would be more helpful to
promote ofbiz to next level in SaaS wise.
--
Regards,
Michael Xu (xudong)
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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com> wrote:
> Hi David:
> Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a useful
> addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz components.
> I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the basic directory
> structure and config file(s) such as the ofbiz-component.xml file necessary
> to get a new component operational? This could be extended to allow for the
> (sort-of) dynamic removal of components. What do you think?
>
> Ruth
>
> David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory. When
>> OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-directories that have
>> a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read to load resources for that
>> component.
>>
>> -David
>>
>> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>>
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>
>> Hello All:
>>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>>
>>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom component
>>> to the application section of the framework. After a brief search of the
>>> mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz collaborative tools for
>>> sometime) and documentation I have the following question:
>>>
>>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth Hoffman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi David:
Thanks for the quick reply. Given your response - I'm wondering if a
useful addition to OFBiz would be a feature in webtools to manage OFBiz
components. I can envision a wizard driven interface that builds the
basic directory structure and config file(s) such as the
ofbiz-component.xml file necessary to get a new component operational?
This could be extended to allow for the (sort-of) dynamic removal of
components. What do you think?
Ruth
David E Jones wrote:
>
> The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
> When OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for
> sub-directories that have a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will
> read to load resources for that component.
>
> -David
>
> P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
>> Congratulations - it is World class!
>>
>> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
>> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
>> component to the application section of the framework. After a brief
>> search of the mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
>> collaborative tools for sometime) and documentation I have the
>> following question:
>>
>> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or is
>> this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or other
>> mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ruth Hoffman
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Adding components to an instance of OFBiz
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
The best way to do this is just put it in the "hot-deploy" directory.
When OFBiz starts up it will look in that directory for sub-
directories that have a "ofbiz-component.xml" file which it will read
to load resources for that component.
-David
P.S. It's good to see you around again Ruth!
On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hello All:
> I'm a big fan of OFBiz - nice job on the Apache site, BTW.
> Congratulations - it is World class!
>
> I've been using OFBiz off and on for a few years now for a number of
> different projects. Recently, I had a requirement to add a custom
> component to the application section of the framework. After a brief
> search of the mailing lists (I have been away from the OFBiz
> collaborative tools for sometime) and documentation I have the
> following question:
>
> Is there an automatic way to add a component to the framework - or
> is this still a manual process? I don't see any obvious webtool or
> other mechanism for doing this through OFBiz.
>
> Regards,
> Ruth Hoffman
>
>