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[jira] [Created] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

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                 Key: LEGAL-101
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
             Project: Legal Discuss
          Issue Type: Question
            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt

>From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.

Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.

Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

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Oliver-Rainer Wittmann commented on LEGAL-101:
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Robert, thanks a lot for taking care of this issue, especially for the positive outcome for the project.
                
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
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> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Dennis E. Hamilton commented on LEGAL-101:
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My reading of the license is that it is a variant BSD license.

My non-expert appraisl is that it is appropriate to treat it as compatible third-party software, or at least proceed on that basis until someone has a reason why not.

ANALYSIS

There is important background here: <http://www.boost.org/users/license.html>.  The Boost Software License Version 1.0 (BSL-1) is recognized by the OSI at <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/BSL-1.0>.

It will be important to look at the headers in individual files of the Boost library set to establish their individual licensing as well as applicable Copyright notices.  Also, there is a suggestion that some parts of the library are under different licenses.  I didn't stumble over any in a cursory examination of the Boost SVN repository.  Note that Boost is a collection of individual libraries, and dependencies are on functions of individual libraries.

In the OOo code base, a number of patches are made to the Boost 1.39 source code.  (There is apparently an old 1.27 patch on regular expressions that may no longer apply.)  The current release is 1.47.

The dependency on Boost is accomplished during the OpenOffice.org build process, where (optionally-patched) headers are delivered to a place where they will be used and a variety of libraries are compiled to binary form for use in the compiled OpenOffice.org release.  There are parts of Boost where a C++ header file has all there is that is required for a particular library function.

The OpenOffice.org THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME entry for the C++ Boost Library should be easily adapted into the NOTICE and LICENSE material for the OpenOffice.org repository and to be installed as part of installation of an Apache OpenOffice.org executable.
                
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on LEGAL-101:
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Added to Category A and published http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
                
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton (Issue Comment Edited) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Dennis E. Hamilton edited comment on LEGAL-101 at 9/28/11 4:32 AM:
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My reading of the license is that it is a variant BSD license.

My non-expert appraisal is that it is appropriate to treat it as compatible third-party software, or at least proceed on that basis until someone has a reason why not.

ANALYSIS

There is important background here: <http://www.boost.org/users/license.html>.  The Boost Software License Version 1.0 (BSL-1) is recognized by the OSI at <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/BSL-1.0>.

It will be important to look at the headers in individual files of the Boost library set to establish their individual licensing as well as applicable Copyright notices.  Also, there is a suggestion that some parts of the library are under different licenses.  I didn't stumble over any in a cursory examination of the Boost SVN repository.  Note that Boost is a collection of individual libraries, and dependencies are on functions of individual libraries.

In the OOo code base, a number of patches are made to the Boost 1.39 source code.  (There is apparently an old 1.27 patch on regular expressions that may no longer apply.)  The current release is 1.47.

The dependency on Boost is accomplished during the OpenOffice.org build process, where (optionally-patched) headers are delivered to a place where they will be used and a variety of libraries are compiled to binary form for use in the compiled OpenOffice.org release.  There are parts of Boost where a C++ header file has all there is that is required for a particular library function.

IMPORTANT: The Boost library is not incorporated into the Apache OOo SVN repository.    It appears that installation of the patched library and its dependent use by OpenOffice.org code is ephemeral within the build and no longer required once the build has been completed.  In fact, for builds on particular platforms, a Boost library is already present and used as already available.  (Since Boost has become a part of the most-recent ISO Standard C++ specifications, this case will become more prevalent.)

The OpenOffice.org THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME entry for the C++ Boost Library should be easily adapted into the NOTICE and LICENSE material for the OpenOffice.org repository and to be installed as part of installation of an Apache OpenOffice.org executable.
                
      was (Author: orcmid):
    My reading of the license is that it is a variant BSD license.

My non-expert appraisl is that it is appropriate to treat it as compatible third-party software, or at least proceed on that basis until someone has a reason why not.

ANALYSIS

There is important background here: <http://www.boost.org/users/license.html>.  The Boost Software License Version 1.0 (BSL-1) is recognized by the OSI at <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/BSL-1.0>.

It will be important to look at the headers in individual files of the Boost library set to establish their individual licensing as well as applicable Copyright notices.  Also, there is a suggestion that some parts of the library are under different licenses.  I didn't stumble over any in a cursory examination of the Boost SVN repository.  Note that Boost is a collection of individual libraries, and dependencies are on functions of individual libraries.

In the OOo code base, a number of patches are made to the Boost 1.39 source code.  (There is apparently an old 1.27 patch on regular expressions that may no longer apply.)  The current release is 1.47.

The dependency on Boost is accomplished during the OpenOffice.org build process, where (optionally-patched) headers are delivered to a place where they will be used and a variety of libraries are compiled to binary form for use in the compiled OpenOffice.org release.  There are parts of Boost where a C++ header file has all there is that is required for a particular library function.

The OpenOffice.org THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME entry for the C++ Boost Library should be easily adapted into the NOTICE and LICENSE material for the OpenOffice.org repository and to be installed as part of installation of an Apache OpenOffice.org executable.
                  
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Resolved] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Resolved) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin resolved LEGAL-101.
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    Resolution: Fixed

Boost Software License Version 1.0 is Category A. Apologies for the long delay. 
                
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
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> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on LEGAL-101:
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The Boost Software License Version 1.0 http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt seems very similar to the MIT license. Can anyone see any reason not to add it to the list of Category A licenses on http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html?
                
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
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> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Assigned] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Assigned) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin reassigned LEGAL-101:
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    Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
    
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Closed) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin closed LEGAL-101.
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> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>            Assignee: Robert Burrell Donkin
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on LEGAL-101:
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Dennis: +1

Unless someone jumps in soon, we'll add Boost to http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
                
> usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-101) usage of Boost C++ source libraries in Apache OpenOffice.org (inbubating)?

Posted by "Craig L Russell (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Craig L Russell commented on LEGAL-101:
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IANAL, but:

The license seems fine for Category A.
                
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>                 Key: LEGAL-101
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-101
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>
> I want to ask, if we can use the Boost C++ source libraries in our project.
> It is licensed under the Boost Software License - Version 1.0, found at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt
> From my point of view it can be used in an Apache project, but as this license is not mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html I am asking for clarification here.
> Boost is widely used in our source core. It is included in the project via our "ext_sources" process - available source tarballs are unpack and build with the project.
> Thanks in advance

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