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Posted to dev@bloodhound.apache.org by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> on 2020/09/12 14:45:22 UTC
Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hear
some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
hasn't been a board report since May.
- If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for the
Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
- If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least three
people are still active and able to oversee the project:
https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists would
get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
--
- Shane
Director & Member
The Apache Software Foundation
Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by Allan Swanepoel <al...@gmail.com>.
As much as I like the old bloodhound project, I’m not personally in a
situation where I can contribute time or effort to keep it alive.
Also, I haven’t seen anything yet with the discussion on porting it to
Django or flask that took off a few years ago when bloodhound was at that
time considered for the attic. Circumstances being what it is, I’m not the
most up to date with the current platform. If Gary is the only person
working on it, is it worth keeping alive right now? There are much better
bigger and smaller solutions out there, and git has become the golden
standard over the years too.
Imho, maybe it is time for bloodhound to be archived, and those who want to
use it can do so, just my 5 cents worth.
Salut bloodhound and thank you all.
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:50, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> Thanks, Gary! Can you submit at least a minimal report to the board,
>
> noting that you and perhaps another PMC member are still hoping to make
>
> progress? That's mostly what the board is looking for right now - if
>
> you're still passionate, then focus on that and it's not time for the
>
> Attic yet.
>
>
>
> The board wants to see that PMC members (and committers!) are still
>
> here, and able to provide oversight for the project. If you've still
>
> got plans, and some energy to work on them, let us know (via at least a
>
> simple report), and keep going!
>
>
>
> My only hint with energy later this month is to also communicate your
>
> plans, and lay out any ideas ahead of time. Sometimes it just takes
>
> someone saying "hey, yes, that's the idea I had" to want to join in.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> - Shane
>
> Director & Member
>
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
>
>
> Gary wrote on 9/13/20 9:23 AM:
>
> > Hi everyone and thanks to Shane for bringing this up.
>
> >
>
> > For my part I still have an interest in continuing and I really want to
> get things organised again.
>
> >
>
> > However, this discussion certainly needs to happen. Is there really
> enough interest amongst us to keep this going and can we translate the
> interest into actual action?
>
> >
>
> > Coincidentally, I was planning to take a week off work from the 21st
> September which I was hoping to be able to use to help make some progress
> on Bloodhound. Life being what it is, I am not going to be sure how much of
> that time I will be able dedicate to Bloodhound but I have nothing else
> organised for that time (apart from the Sunday before that). Obviously I
> can't expect others to just drop everything and join me in taking a week
> off on this basis, so I am more hoping that there would be interest from
> people in setting some time aside to chat with me and hopefully others on
> #bloodhound in the-asf Slack and see what progress we can make.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Gary
>
> >
>
> > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, at 3:45 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
> >> While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
>
> >> life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
>
> >> traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
>
> >>
>
> >> The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hear
>
> >> some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
>
> >> hasn't been a board report since May.
>
> >>
>
> >> - If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for the
>
> >> Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
>
> >> either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
>
> >>
>
> >> - If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
>
> >> then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least three
>
> >> people are still active and able to oversee the project:
>
> >>
>
> >> https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
>
> >>
>
> >> Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
>
> >> recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
>
> >> project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists would
>
> >> get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
>
> >>
>
> >> Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >>
>
> >> - Shane
>
> >> Director & Member
>
> >> The Apache Software Foundation
>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Thanks, Gary! Can you submit at least a minimal report to the board,
noting that you and perhaps another PMC member are still hoping to make
progress? That's mostly what the board is looking for right now - if
you're still passionate, then focus on that and it's not time for the
Attic yet.
The board wants to see that PMC members (and committers!) are still
here, and able to provide oversight for the project. If you've still
got plans, and some energy to work on them, let us know (via at least a
simple report), and keep going!
My only hint with energy later this month is to also communicate your
plans, and lay out any ideas ahead of time. Sometimes it just takes
someone saying "hey, yes, that's the idea I had" to want to join in.
Good luck!
--
- Shane
Director & Member
The Apache Software Foundation
Gary wrote on 9/13/20 9:23 AM:
> Hi everyone and thanks to Shane for bringing this up.
>
> For my part I still have an interest in continuing and I really want to get things organised again.
>
> However, this discussion certainly needs to happen. Is there really enough interest amongst us to keep this going and can we translate the interest into actual action?
>
> Coincidentally, I was planning to take a week off work from the 21st September which I was hoping to be able to use to help make some progress on Bloodhound. Life being what it is, I am not going to be sure how much of that time I will be able dedicate to Bloodhound but I have nothing else organised for that time (apart from the Sunday before that). Obviously I can't expect others to just drop everything and join me in taking a week off on this basis, so I am more hoping that there would be interest from people in setting some time aside to chat with me and hopefully others on #bloodhound in the-asf Slack and see what progress we can make.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary
>
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, at 3:45 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>> While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
>> life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
>> traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
>>
>> The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hear
>> some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
>> hasn't been a board report since May.
>>
>> - If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for the
>> Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
>> either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
>>
>> - If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
>> then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least three
>> people are still active and able to oversee the project:
>>
>> https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
>>
>> Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
>> recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
>> project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists would
>> get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
>>
>> Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
>>
>> --
>>
>> - Shane
>> Director & Member
>> The Apache Software Foundation
>>
Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
I don't have any coding time, but I do have review/oversight time. That
makes (4) for oversight.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 8:54 AM John Chambers <ch...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone, I am also still committed to supporting this project going
> forward.
> I will do my best to take part in any discussions about its future
> development.
>
> Cheers
>
> John.
>
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2020, 14:23 Gary, <al...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone and thanks to Shane for bringing this up.
> >
> > For my part I still have an interest in continuing and I really want to
> > get things organised again.
> >
> > However, this discussion certainly needs to happen. Is there really
> enough
> > interest amongst us to keep this going and can we translate the interest
> > into actual action?
> >
> > Coincidentally, I was planning to take a week off work from the 21st
> > September which I was hoping to be able to use to help make some progress
> > on Bloodhound. Life being what it is, I am not going to be sure how much
> of
> > that time I will be able dedicate to Bloodhound but I have nothing else
> > organised for that time (apart from the Sunday before that). Obviously I
> > can't expect others to just drop everything and join me in taking a week
> > off on this basis, so I am more hoping that there would be interest from
> > people in setting some time aside to chat with me and hopefully others on
> > #bloodhound in the-asf Slack and see what progress we can make.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gary
> >
> > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, at 3:45 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> > > While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
> > > life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
> > > traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
> > >
> > > The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to
> hear
> > > some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
> > > hasn't been a board report since May.
> > >
> > > - If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for
> the
> > > Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
> > > either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
> > >
> > > - If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
> > > then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least
> three
> > > people are still active and able to oversee the project:
> > >
> > > https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
> > >
> > > Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
> > > recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
> > > project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists
> would
> > > get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Shane
> > > Director & Member
> > > The Apache Software Foundation
> > >
> >
>
Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by John Chambers <ch...@apache.org>.
Hi everyone, I am also still committed to supporting this project going
forward.
I will do my best to take part in any discussions about its future
development.
Cheers
John.
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020, 14:23 Gary, <al...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi everyone and thanks to Shane for bringing this up.
>
> For my part I still have an interest in continuing and I really want to
> get things organised again.
>
> However, this discussion certainly needs to happen. Is there really enough
> interest amongst us to keep this going and can we translate the interest
> into actual action?
>
> Coincidentally, I was planning to take a week off work from the 21st
> September which I was hoping to be able to use to help make some progress
> on Bloodhound. Life being what it is, I am not going to be sure how much of
> that time I will be able dedicate to Bloodhound but I have nothing else
> organised for that time (apart from the Sunday before that). Obviously I
> can't expect others to just drop everything and join me in taking a week
> off on this basis, so I am more hoping that there would be interest from
> people in setting some time aside to chat with me and hopefully others on
> #bloodhound in the-asf Slack and see what progress we can make.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary
>
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, at 3:45 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> > While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
> > life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
> > traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
> >
> > The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hear
> > some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
> > hasn't been a board report since May.
> >
> > - If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for the
> > Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
> > either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
> >
> > - If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
> > then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least three
> > people are still active and able to oversee the project:
> >
> > https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
> >
> > Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
> > recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
> > project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists would
> > get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
> >
> > Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Shane
> > Director & Member
> > The Apache Software Foundation
> >
>
Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by Gary <al...@fastmail.co.uk>.
Hi everyone and thanks to Shane for bringing this up.
For my part I still have an interest in continuing and I really want to get things organised again.
However, this discussion certainly needs to happen. Is there really enough interest amongst us to keep this going and can we translate the interest into actual action?
Coincidentally, I was planning to take a week off work from the 21st September which I was hoping to be able to use to help make some progress on Bloodhound. Life being what it is, I am not going to be sure how much of that time I will be able dedicate to Bloodhound but I have nothing else organised for that time (apart from the Sunday before that). Obviously I can't expect others to just drop everything and join me in taking a week off on this basis, so I am more hoping that there would be interest from people in setting some time aside to chat with me and hopefully others on #bloodhound in the-asf Slack and see what progress we can make.
Cheers,
Gary
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, at 3:45 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back new
> life to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/private
> traffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.
>
> The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hear
> some feedback from the community one way or the other, since there
> hasn't been a board report since May.
>
> - If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for the
> Attic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution at
> either this month's Board meeting or next month's.
>
> - If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,
> then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least three
> people are still active and able to oversee the project:
>
> https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-call
>
> Reminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just a
> recognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage the
> project here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists would
> get turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.
>
> Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!
>
> --
>
> - Shane
> Director & Member
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
Re: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Nobody is stopping you. There are a bunch of forks already:
https://github.com/apache/bloodhound/network/members
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 4:30 PM jason <ja...@cropwell.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> Post it on Github and let us fork it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Shane Curcuru <
> asf@shanecurcuru.org> Date: 12/09/2020 15:45 (GMT+00:00) To:
> dev@bloodhound.apache.org Subject: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to
> the Apache Attic? While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to
> bring back newlife to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of
> dev/user/privatetraffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see
> other energy.The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really
> like to hearsome feedback from the community one way or the other, since
> therehasn't been a board report since May.- If Gary and anyone who's been
> involved recently know it's time for theAttic, please let us know - we
> could post and pass the resolution ateither this month's Board meeting or
> next month's.- If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache
> Bloodhound,then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at
> least threepeople are still active and able to oversee the project:
> https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-callReminder: moving to the Apache
> Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just arecognition that there's no longer an
> *active* PMC able to manage theproject here at the ASF. All project code,
> website, mailing lists wouldget turned read-only, but will *still be
> available* at the same URLs.Thanks for all the work in the past, and the
> cute logo!-- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation
RE: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic?
Posted by jason <ja...@cropwell.net.INVALID>.
Post it on Github and let us fork it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> Date: 12/09/2020 15:45 (GMT+00:00) To: dev@bloodhound.apache.org Subject: Is it time for Bloodhound to move to the Apache Attic? While we very much appreciate Gary's repeated efforts to bring back newlife to Apache Bloodhound, reviewing the past year of dev/user/privatetraffic and #bloodhound on the-asf's Slack, I don't see other energy.The board meeting is this coming Wednesday, and we'd really like to hearsome feedback from the community one way or the other, since therehasn't been a board report since May.- If Gary and anyone who's been involved recently know it's time for theAttic, please let us know - we could post and pass the resolution ateither this month's Board meeting or next month's.- If you do feel like you have more energy to drive Apache Bloodhound,then we need the PMC to perform a roll call, to show that at least threepeople are still active and able to oversee the project: https://apache.org/dev/pmc.html#roll-callReminder: moving to the Apache Attic isn't a bad thing - it's just arecognition that there's no longer an *active* PMC able to manage theproject here at the ASF. All project code, website, mailing lists wouldget turned read-only, but will *still be available* at the same URLs.Thanks for all the work in the past, and the cute logo!-- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation