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Jakarta Project - Vendor

Hello,

I would like to introduce myself as Nag Ramachandran, Vice President of iSigma, a division Ramsoft Inc in Atlanta GA. 
We have an enterprise level web based billing product for which we are using Apache, Catalina, Xerces, Xalan, FOP etc. We would like to be listed as one of the references. Please let me know, how we can make it happen. 

Our Web address is http://www.isigma.net , http://www.ram-soft.com. I can be reached at nag@isigma.net. 

Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions or concerns. 

Nag Ramachandran
mailto:nag@isigma.net






Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
Confirmed.  Web site updated.

"Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com> writes:

> applied.  Please cross check.
> 
> Daniel Rall wrote:
> 
> >"Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com> writes:
> >
> >
> 
> >>I actually hope this continues to remain inconveinent.  My actual
> >>motivation for starting this page was to avoid having people spam the
> >>various mail lists with it.  However, personally I'd rather not see
> >>the page full of people who don't know how to contribute to Jakarta
> >>projects, let alone support them.  So I rather like the natural form
> >>of darwinism required to update the page.  I think we might want to
> >>make it clearer:  "contribute to this page the same way you do other
> >>projects.. . If you don't know how, then why would you list yourself
> >>here?"
> >>
> 
> >
> >After due consideration over the course of many of these addition
> >requests, I find myself very much in favor of Andrew's suggested
> >process.  However, it would be useful if the requirement of a patch
> >was stated more explicitly in disclaimer under the "Third Party
> >Support" section of http://jakarta.apache.org/site/vendors.html:
> >
> >Index: vendors.xml
> >===================================================================
> >RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/vendors.xml,v
> >retrieving revision 1.10
> >diff -u -u -r1.10 vendors.xml
> >--- vendors.xml	30 Aug 2002 00:05:22 -0000	1.10
> >+++ vendors.xml	16 Sep 2002 19:27:58 -0000
> >@@ -11,11 +11,13 @@
> > <section name="Third-Party Support">
> 
> > <p>
> > -<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements
> > given -or implied. If you would like to be added to this list, or
> > removed, please -contact <a
> > href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>.
> 
> >-Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or more Jakarta products.
> >-</b>
> >+<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements are
> >+given or implied. If you would like to be added to or removed from
> >+this list, please send the <a href="source.html">appropriate
> >+change</a> to the <a
> >+href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>
> >+mailing list.  Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or
> >+more Jakarta products.</b>
> > </p>
> > <p>
> > Is your company thinking of taking "the plunge" into more affordable,
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com>.
applied.  Please cross check.

Daniel Rall wrote:

>"Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com> writes:
>
>  
>
>>I actually hope this continues to remain inconveinent.  My actual
>>motivation for starting this page was to avoid having people spam the
>>various mail lists with it.  However, personally I'd rather not see
>>the page full of people who don't know how to contribute to Jakarta
>>projects, let alone support them.  So I rather like the natural form
>>of darwinism required to update the page.  I think we might want to
>>make it clearer:  "contribute to this page the same way you do other
>>projects.. . If you don't know how, then why would you list yourself
>>here?"
>>    
>>
>
>After due consideration over the course of many of these addition
>requests, I find myself very much in favor of Andrew's suggested
>process.  However, it would be useful if the requirement of a patch
>was stated more explicitly in disclaimer under the "Third Party
>Support" section of http://jakarta.apache.org/site/vendors.html:
>
>Index: vendors.xml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/vendors.xml,v
>retrieving revision 1.10
>diff -u -u -r1.10 vendors.xml
>--- vendors.xml	30 Aug 2002 00:05:22 -0000	1.10
>+++ vendors.xml	16 Sep 2002 19:27:58 -0000
>@@ -11,11 +11,13 @@
> 
> <section name="Third-Party Support">
> <p>
>-<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements given 
>-or implied. If you would like to be added to this list, or removed, please 
>-contact <a href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>.
>-Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or more Jakarta products.
>-</b>
>+<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements are
>+given or implied. If you would like to be added to or removed from
>+this list, please send the <a href="source.html">appropriate
>+change</a> to the <a
>+href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>
>+mailing list.  Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or
>+more Jakarta products.</b>
> </p>
> <p>
> Is your company thinking of taking "the plunge" into more affordable,
>
>
>  
>




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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
"Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com> writes:

> I actually hope this continues to remain inconveinent.  My actual
> motivation for starting this page was to avoid having people spam the
> various mail lists with it.  However, personally I'd rather not see
> the page full of people who don't know how to contribute to Jakarta
> projects, let alone support them.  So I rather like the natural form
> of darwinism required to update the page.  I think we might want to
> make it clearer:  "contribute to this page the same way you do other
> projects.. . If you don't know how, then why would you list yourself
> here?"

After due consideration over the course of many of these addition
requests, I find myself very much in favor of Andrew's suggested
process.  However, it would be useful if the requirement of a patch
was stated more explicitly in disclaimer under the "Third Party
Support" section of http://jakarta.apache.org/site/vendors.html:

Index: vendors.xml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/vendors.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -u -r1.10 vendors.xml
--- vendors.xml	30 Aug 2002 00:05:22 -0000	1.10
+++ vendors.xml	16 Sep 2002 19:27:58 -0000
@@ -11,11 +11,13 @@
 
 <section name="Third-Party Support">
 <p>
-<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements given 
-or implied. If you would like to be added to this list, or removed, please 
-contact <a href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>.
-Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or more Jakarta products.
-</b>
+<b>This listing is provided as a reference only. No endorsements are
+given or implied. If you would like to be added to or removed from
+this list, please send the <a href="source.html">appropriate
+change</a> to the <a
+href="mailto:general@jakarta.apache.org">general@jakarta.apache.org</a>
+mailing list.  Pages linked must specifically cite support for one or
+more Jakarta products.</b>
 </p>
 <p>
 Is your company thinking of taking "the plunge" into more affordable,


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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com>.
I actually hope this continues to remain inconveinent.  My actual 
motivation for starting this page was to avoid having people spam the 
various mail lists with it.  However, personally I'd rather not see the 
page full of people who don't know how to contribute to Jakarta 
projects, let alone support them.  So I rather like the natural form of 
darwinism required to update the page.  I think we might want to make it 
clearer:  "contribute to this page the same way you do other projects.. 
. If you don't know how, then why would you list yourself here?"

-Andy

Alex McLintock wrote:

> Someone asked to be added to the vendors page.
>
> At 14:59 15/09/02, someone replied:
>
>> Send a patch to the jakarta-site module.
>
>
>
> I find this a rather clumsy way of doing content management on a 
> website and IMHO unreasonable.
>
> So I did something about it. I set up a database of companies who 
> offer professional support for Open Source software, including most 
> Apache projects. See the URL in the sig below to add your company to 
> the database.
>
>
> (incidently the webapp database is powered by Turbine/Tomcat/Velocity 
> etc)
>
> Alex McLintock
>
>
>
>
>
> Openweb Analysts Ltd, London.
> Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
> Open Source Software Companies please register here 
> http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/
>
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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com>.
>
> other than that: requiring people to submit a patch seems a decent 
> barrier to discourage PHBs and sales/marketing people to use 
> apache.org as a marketing vehicle
>
> but all-in-all, using CVS and thus requiring static HTML files as the 
> primary staging mechanism of jakarta/xml.apache.org seems to be pretty 
> archaic to me
>
> </Steven>


I totally agree with Steven.  Thats exactly right :-)


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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by Henri Gomez <hg...@apache.org>.
> but all-in-all, using CVS and thus requiring static HTML files as the 
> primary staging mechanism of jakarta/xml.apache.org seems to be pretty 
> archaic to me

jakarta and xml sites are build using anakia/xml, not so archaic


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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Alex McLintock wrote:

> I find this a rather clumsy way of doing content management on a website 
> and IMHO unreasonable.
> 
> So I did something about it. I set up a database of companies who offer 
> professional support for Open Source software, including most Apache 
> projects. See the URL in the sig below to add your company to the database.

if my details should be displayed incorrectly on the Jakarta website, at 
least I can re-submit another patch in order to get them corrected

with your database, it's submit-only ;-)

other than that: requiring people to submit a patch seems a decent 
barrier to discourage PHBs and sales/marketing people to use apache.org 
as a marketing vehicle

but all-in-all, using CVS and thus requiring static HTML files as the 
primary staging mechanism of jakarta/xml.apache.org seems to be pretty 
archaic to me

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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by Alex McLintock <al...@OWAL.co.uk>.
Someone asked to be added to the vendors page.

At 14:59 15/09/02, someone replied:
>Send a patch to the jakarta-site module.


I find this a rather clumsy way of doing content management on a website 
and IMHO unreasonable.

So I did something about it. I set up a database of companies who offer 
professional support for Open Source software, including most Apache 
projects. See the URL in the sig below to add your company to the database.


(incidently the webapp database is powered by Turbine/Tomcat/Velocity etc)

Alex McLintock





Openweb Analysts Ltd, London.
Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/
Open Source Software Companies please register here 
http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/


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Re: Jakarta Project - Vendor

Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com>.
Send a patch to the jakarta-site module.

Nag Ramachandran wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I would like to introduce myself as Nag Ramachandran, Vice President of iSigma, a division Ramsoft Inc in Atlanta GA. 
>We have an enterprise level web based billing product for which we are using Apache, Catalina, Xerces, Xalan, FOP etc. We would like to be listed as one of the references. Please let me know, how we can make it happen. 
>
>Our Web address is http://www.isigma.net , http://www.ram-soft.com. I can be reached at nag@isigma.net. 
>
>Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions or concerns. 
>
>Nag Ramachandran
>mailto:nag@isigma.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>




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