Re: oss igoogle-like container projects?

[Matthew Russell <ma...@digitalreasoning.com>]

Hey all -

I just wanted to follow up on this again. I won't bother regurgitating  
the details here, but basically, my firm has developed an iGoogle-like  
container for a really interesting startup called Life360. They've  
graciously agreed to open source the code since Shindig has done so  
many wonderful things already for the developer platform we're working  
on with them, so I'd like to coordinate with someone on trying to get  
this merged into trunk -- even if it's just as an example or  
something. Would be much easier to maintain that way for everyone, I'd  
imagine.

Screencasts and links to the code are available at the links below.

Life360's announcement is on their main page right now: http://life360.com
A more technical discussion in on one of my blogs: http://dojotdg.com

Regards - Matthew


On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Matthew Russell wrote:

> Wow, everyone. This has been a great discussion so far.
>
> Based on what I'm hearing, there's some definite expertise in this  
> area by members of the list and sufficient interest to work on it to  
> some degree, so would it make sense then for me to start taking a  
> crack at this, check something into a little Google code project  
> when I have something to show, and report back when it's out there?  
> Maybe then, we could get a few folks involved who are interested to  
> help out with snags?
>
> To be clear, I have some dedicated time to work on this over the  
> next 1-2 weeks, so I have to do it either way. I just want to try  
> and collaborate with anyone who is interested and open up the  
> solution for everyone so it can mature and grow. Even if the end  
> result were just included as a sophisticated example, it sounds like  
> it would be helpful to a lot of people.
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Vjekoslav Nesek wrote:
>
>> Tim Moore wrote:
>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:15 AM, Chris Chabot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neither of those does drag-and-drop though, but compared to the  
>>>> nitty-gritty
>>>
>>> Easy to say maybe! :-)
>>>
>>> It's trickier than you'd think, especially since iframes are  
>>> involved.
>>
>>> Right now it's still a work in progress, and we haven't yet been  
>>> able to get it working as smoothly as iGoogle. It's based on  
>>> jQuery UI's Sortable, and we've fallen a little bit behind the  
>>> latest version so it's a little quirky at times. The biggest  
>>> problem, however, is that when you move an iframe to a new DOM  
>>> location, in most browsers it reloads the contents of the frame.
>> ...and after it reloads that iframe, rpc communication between a  
>> container and gadget is broken. To fix it
>> there should be some changes to rpc.js to reinitialize rpc after  
>> frame reload. After a lot of experimentation
>> I think that only reasonable way to implement it is to use custom  
>> absolute layout. jQueryUI sortable
>> will not help you when a mouse goes over iframe while dragging it  
>> and you louse mousemove events :)
>>
>> BR,
>> Vjekoslav Nesek
>

Re: oss igoogle-like container projects?

[Leonardo Foderaro <st...@gmail.com>]

Hi Matthew,
I just read your blog.. didn't try the actual code yet, but it looks
really cool! and your company's choice to release it as OpenSource
should be an example to follow for many others. Imho, of course.

best regards
leonardo

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Matthew Russell
<ma...@digitalreasoning.com> wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> I just wanted to follow up on this again. I won't bother regurgitating the
> details here, but basically, my firm has developed an iGoogle-like container
> for a really interesting startup called Life360. They've graciously agreed
> to open source the code since Shindig has done so many wonderful things
> already for the developer platform we're working on with them, so I'd like
> to coordinate with someone on trying to get this merged into trunk -- even
> if it's just as an example or something. Would be much easier to maintain
> that way for everyone, I'd imagine.
>
> Screencasts and links to the code are available at the links below.
>
> Life360's announcement is on their main page right now: http://life360.com
> A more technical discussion in on one of my blogs: http://dojotdg.com
>
> Regards - Matthew
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Matthew Russell wrote:
>
>> Wow, everyone. This has been a great discussion so far.
>>
>> Based on what I'm hearing, there's some definite expertise in this area by
>> members of the list and sufficient interest to work on it to some degree, so
>> would it make sense then for me to start taking a crack at this, check
>> something into a little Google code project when I have something to show,
>> and report back when it's out there? Maybe then, we could get a few folks
>> involved who are interested to help out with snags?
>>
>> To be clear, I have some dedicated time to work on this over the next 1-2
>> weeks, so I have to do it either way. I just want to try and collaborate
>> with anyone who is interested and open up the solution for everyone so it
>> can mature and grow. Even if the end result were just included as a
>> sophisticated example, it sounds like it would be helpful to a lot of
>> people.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Vjekoslav Nesek wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:15 AM, Chris Chabot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Neither of those does drag-and-drop though, but compared to the
>>>>> nitty-gritty
>>>>
>>>> Easy to say maybe! :-)
>>>>
>>>> It's trickier than you'd think, especially since iframes are involved.
>>>
>>>> Right now it's still a work in progress, and we haven't yet been able to
>>>> get it working as smoothly as iGoogle. It's based on jQuery UI's Sortable,
>>>> and we've fallen a little bit behind the latest version so it's a little
>>>> quirky at times. The biggest problem, however, is that when you move an
>>>> iframe to a new DOM location, in most browsers it reloads the contents of
>>>> the frame.
>>>
>>> ...and after it reloads that iframe, rpc communication between a
>>> container and gadget is broken. To fix it
>>> there should be some changes to rpc.js to reinitialize rpc after frame
>>> reload. After a lot of experimentation
>>> I think that only reasonable way to implement it is to use custom
>>> absolute layout. jQueryUI sortable
>>> will not help you when a mouse goes over iframe while dragging it and you
>>> louse mousemove events :)
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Vjekoslav Nesek
>>
>
>