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Posted to dev@milagro.apache.org by Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com> on 2018/04/01 13:19:00 UTC

Re: Platform dependency

Hi Giorgio,

Can you share your React Native implementation?

Thanks,

Nikolai

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is really
> impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
> Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
>
> 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>
>> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
>> should work with react, too.
>>
>> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
>> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module and
>> I hope this would answer your question.
>>
>> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
>> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
>> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress, Drupal,
>> and many other applications.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Go Yamamoto
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
>> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>>
>> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>>
>>
>> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>>
>> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
>> >
>> > "We" means NTT in this context.
>> >
>> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
>> > the official repository.
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
>> >
>> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
>> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
>> >
>> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Go Yamamoto
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
>> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
>> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our code.
>> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
>> >
>> > Who is "we" in this case?
>> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Go Yamamoto
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
>> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > >
>> > > Hi Go,
>> > >
>> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
>> > > in
>> > the
>> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
>> > >
>> > > Nikolai
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
>> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Ok,
>> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
>> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
>> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
>> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
>> > > > > the master of the project.
>> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
>> > > > advancements
>> > > > > at the local repo.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We can start right now.
>> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Go
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
>> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
>> > > > > some
>> > > > code
>> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>> >:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > All,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
>> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
>> > years.
>> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
>> > > > participate.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > Go Yamamto
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
>> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
>> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
>> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
>> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
>> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
>> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Go
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
>> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
>> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
>> > <si...@miracl.com>:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hello,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
>> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
>> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
>> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
>> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
>> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
>> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
>> > > > > been clear.
>> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
>> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
>> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
>> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
>> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
>> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
>> > > > > > > propose a
>> > roadmap.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
>> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
>> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
>> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
>> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
>> > roadmap.
>> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
>> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
>> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
>> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
>> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
>> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
>> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
>> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
>> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
>> > > > > > > further development activities.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
>> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
>> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
>> > > > > > > they are
>> > > > > merged.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     Regards,
>> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
>> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     BTW,
>> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
>> > > > > > > as
>> > well?
>> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
>> release?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
>> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
>> > > > > >:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
>> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
>> > > > > > > inside
>> > Apache?
>> > > > > The
>> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
>> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
>> > > > > > > from
>> > > > other
>> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
>> > > > johndament@apache.org
>> > > > > >:
>> > > > > > >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
>> > > > > > > make sure
>> > > > Go
>> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
>> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> John
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
>> > > > > > > our
>> > > > > > perspective
>> > > > > > >     >> > on
>> > > > > > >     >> the project.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
>> > > > > > > move the
>> > > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
>> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
>> > > > > > > the
>> > crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> > repository
>> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
>> > > > > > doesn't
>> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
>> > > > > > > original
>> > > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
>> project,
>> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
>> > repository
>> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
>> > > > > > > to the best of my
>> > > > > > >     >> memory.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
>> > > > > > > the project
>> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
>> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
>> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
>> > > > > > >     >> > on
>> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
>> > > > > > > on getting
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
>> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
>> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the
>> > head.
>> > > > > The
>> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
>> > MIRACL.
>> > > > > > > You
>> > > > > > can
>> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
>> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
>> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
>> implications
>> > I
>> > am
>> > > > > > > seeing
>> > > > > > >     >> > are
>> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > podling.
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     John
>> > > > > > >     >> >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
>> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
>> > library.
>> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
>> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
>> > > > > > > like to ask
>> > > > > > for
>> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is
>> > ready
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > commit.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
>> > > > repository
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
>> from
>> > > > MIRACL
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
>> > > > continuously,
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > >     >> > seems
>> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
>> > > > > > > for
>> > years.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
>> take
>> > over
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
>> > problem.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
>> johndament@apache.org
>> > ]
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project
>> > about
>> > > > > > > retirement.
>> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
>> > > > > > > help out the project.
>> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
>> has
>> > > > > included
>> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the
>> > move
>> > of
>> > > > > > > source
>> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
>> > > > > > > been
>> > > > > > unanswered.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
>> nothing.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
>> > > > repositories
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > >     >> > not
>> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro
>> > should
>> > > > > > > retire.
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
>> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
>> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
>> > > > > > >     >>
>> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
>> > > > %3E
>> > > > > > >     >> >     >
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>> > > >
>> > > --
>> > > Nikolai Stoilov
>> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
>> > > MIRACL
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
Nikolai Stoilov
NOC/Support Team Lead
MIRACL

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simeon,
thanks for the hint. I will use  the lib.
Best Regards,
Giorgio.

2018-04-03 9:35 GMT+02:00 Simeon Aladjem <si...@miracl.com>:

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> If you need to integrate with the JS client SDK (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib),
> it includes pretty detailed documentation is the README.md, plus some
> diagrams how the flow works:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/
> blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Registration%20flow.png
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/
> blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Authentication%20flow.png
>
> I have to admit that I couldn't quite understand which part of the
> published code you use for your project, but I hope the above helps.
>
> Regards,
> Simeon Aladjem
>
> On 2/4/18, 18:11, "Giorgio Zoppi" <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hello Nikolai,
>     after the talk 12th April i can share.
>     https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/.
> This
>     is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it
> does a
>     simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your
> sdk
>     in react native.
>     Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?
>
>     Best Regards,
>     Giorgio.
>
>
>     2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com
> >:
>
>     > Hi Giorgio,
>     >
>     > Can you share your React Native implementation?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Nikolai
>     >
>     > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <
> giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
>     > really
>     > > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
>     > > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
>     > >
>     > > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
>     > >
>     > >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks,
> and it
>     > >> should work with react, too.
>     > >>
>     > >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer
> is no.
>     > >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication
> module
>     > and
>     > >> I hope this would answer your question.
>     > >>
>     > >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper
> that
>     > >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.
> As we
>     > >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django,
> WordPress,
>     > Drupal,
>     > >> and many other applications.
>     > >>
>     > >> Regards,
>     > >> Go Yamamoto
>     > >>
>     > >> -----Original Message-----
>     > >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
>     > >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >>
>     > >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
>     > >>
>     > >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing
> code at
>     > >> > the official repository.
>     > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
>     > >> >
>     > >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official
> repository
>     > >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install
> it.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > Regards,
>     > >> > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> >
>     > >> > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
>     > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
>     > >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> wrote:
>     > >> > > Hi
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
>     > >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release
> our
>     > code.
>     > >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > Who is "we" in this case?
>     > >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
>     > >> >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Regards,
>     > >> > > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
>     > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
>     > >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Hi Go,
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how
> to fill
>     > >> > > in
>     > >> > the
>     > >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > Nikolai
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
>     > >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
>     > >> > > wrote:
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > > > Ok,
>     > >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a
> plan
>     > >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>     > >:
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library
> first.
>     > >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that
> mirrors
>     > >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that
> it is
>     > >> > > > > the master of the project.
>     > >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute
> the
>     > >> > > > advancements
>     > >> > > > > at the local repo.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > We can start right now.
>     > >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > Go
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
>     > >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code.
> Porting
>     > >> > > > > some
>     > >> > > > code
>     > >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
>     > yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
>     > >> >:
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > All,
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to
> start
>     > >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have
> worked for
>     > >> > years.
>     > >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are
> willing to
>     > >> > > > participate.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
>     > >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
>     > >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
>     > >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
>     > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
>     > >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is
> responsible
>     > >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > Go
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
>     > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
>     > >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign
> some
>     > >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Hello,
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not
> being able
>     > >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been
> really
>     > >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural
> stand
>     > point.
>     > >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to
> manipulate
>     > >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
>     > >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in
> order for
>     > >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
>     > >> > > > > been clear.
>     > >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL
> didn't have
>     > >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is -
> in a
>     > >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a
> roadmap?
>     > >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
>     > >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and
> I guess
>     > >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project,
> they can
>     > >> > > > > > > propose a
>     > >> > roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto,
> with
>     > >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the
> project
>     > >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
>     > >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about
> the
>     > >> > roadmap.
>     > >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the
> crypto
>     > >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication
> server/clients
>     > >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and
> we have
>     > >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
>     > activities.
>     > >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more
> before
>     > >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code
> does not
>     > >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
>     > >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test
> codes
>     > >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at
> least help
>     > >> > > > > > > further development activities.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
>     > >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
>     > >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers
> if
>     > >> > > > > > > they are
>     > >> > > > > merged.
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.
> com]
>     > >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
>     > >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     BTW,
>     > >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support
> hardware
>     > >> > > > > > > as
>     > >> > well?
>     > >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
>     > >> release?
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
>     > >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
>     > >> > > > > >:
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
>     > >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
>     > >> > > > > > > inside
>     > >> > Apache?
>     > >> > > > > The
>     > >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable
> code.
>     > >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can
> be used
>     > >> > > > > > > from
>     > >> > > > other
>     > >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
>     > >> > > > johndament@apache.org
>     > >> > > > > >:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would
> need to
>     > >> > > > > > > make sure
>     > >> > > > Go
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the
> repositories.  I'm
>     > >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> John
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
>     > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to
> provide
>     > >> > > > > > > our
>     > >> > > > > > perspective
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea
> to
>     > >> > > > > > > move the
>     > >> > > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project
> refers to
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
>     > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
>     > >> > > > > > doesn't
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of
> the
>     > >> > > > > > > original
>     > >> > > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
>     > >> project,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need
> some
>     > >> > repository
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the
> past,
>     > >> > > > > > > to the best of my
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and
> contribute to
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading
> role in
>     > >> > > > > > > the project
>     > >> > > > > > for
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT
> and Go
>     > >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and
> will help
>     > >> > > > > > > on getting
>     > >> > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
>     > forward.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
>     > >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
>     > >> > > > > > wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem
> right on
>     > the
>     > >> > head.
>     > >> > > > > The
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation
> from
>     > >> > MIRACL.
>     > >> > > > > > > You
>     > >> > > > > > can
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no
> changes to
>     > >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
>     > >> implications
>     > >> > I
>     > >> > am
>     > >> > > > > > > seeing
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > are
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code
> within
>     > >> > > > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > podling.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a
> crypto
>     > >> > library.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I
> would
>     > >> > > > > > > like to ask
>     > >> > > > > > for
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting
> Milagro.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code
> that
>     > is
>     > >> > ready
>     > >> > > > to
>     > >> > > > > > > commit.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated
> since
>     > then.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to
> Apache
>     > >> > > > repository
>     > >> > > > > > is
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because
> the code
>     > >> from
>     > >> > > > MIRACL
>     > >> > > > > > is
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been
> updated
>     > >> > > > continuously,
>     > >> > > > > > it
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the
> project
>     > >> > > > > > > for
>     > >> > years.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT
> team can
>     > >> take
>     > >> > over
>     > >> > > > > the
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve
> the
>     > >> > problem.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
>     > >> johndament@apache.org
>     > >> > ]
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
>     > project
>     > >> > about
>     > >> > > > > > > retirement.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped
> up to
>     > >> > > > > > > help out the project.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting
> periods.  This
>     > >> has
>     > >> > > > > included
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report
> clarifying
>     > the
>     > >> > move
>     > >> > of
>     > >> > > > > > > source
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github
> have
>     > >> > > > > > > been
>     > >> > > > > > unanswered.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to
> nearly
>     > >> nothing.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of
> your
>     > >> > > > repositories
>     > >> > > > > > > have
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
>     > Milagro
>     > >> > should
>     > >> > > > > > > retire.
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
>     > >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%
> 3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
>     > >> > > > %3E
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >> >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >>
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >     >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > > >
>     > >> > > >
>     > >> > > --
>     > >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
>     > >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
>     > >> > > MIRACL
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> > >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> --
>     > Nikolai Stoilov
>     > NOC/Support Team Lead
>     > MIRACL
>     >
>
>

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Simeon Aladjem <si...@miracl.com>.
Hi Giorgio,

If you need to integrate with the JS client SDK (https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib),
it includes pretty detailed documentation is the README.md, plus some diagrams how the flow works:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Registration%20flow.png
https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro-mfa-js-lib/blob/master/M-Pin%20SDK%20-%20Authentication%20flow.png

I have to admit that I couldn't quite understand which part of the published code you use for your project, but I hope the above helps.

Regards,
Simeon Aladjem

On 2/4/18, 18:11, "Giorgio Zoppi" <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hello Nikolai,
    after the talk 12th April i can share.
    https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/. This
    is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it does a
    simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your sdk
    in react native.
    Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?
    
    Best Regards,
    Giorgio.
    
    
    2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com>:
    
    > Hi Giorgio,
    >
    > Can you share your React Native implementation?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Nikolai
    >
    > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
    > really
    > > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
    > > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
    > >
    > > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
    > >
    > >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
    > >> should work with react, too.
    > >>
    > >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
    > >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
    > and
    > >> I hope this would answer your question.
    > >>
    > >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
    > >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
    > >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
    > Drupal,
    > >> and many other applications.
    > >>
    > >> Regards,
    > >> Go Yamamoto
    > >>
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
    > >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >>
    > >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
    > >>
    > >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
    > >> >
    > >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
    > >> >
    > >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
    > >> > the official repository.
    > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
    > >> >
    > >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
    > >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
    > >> >
    > >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
    > >> >
    > >> > Regards,
    > >> > Go Yamamoto
    > >> >
    > >> > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
    > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
    > >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
    > >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> wrote:
    > >> > > Hi
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
    > >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our
    > code.
    > >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
    > >> >
    > >> > Who is "we" in this case?
    > >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
    > >> >
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Regards,
    > >> > > Go Yamamoto
    > >> > >
    > >> > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
    > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
    > >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Hi Go,
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
    > >> > > in
    > >> > the
    > >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Nikolai
    > >> > >
    > >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
    > >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
    > >> > > wrote:
    > >> > >
    > >> > > > Ok,
    > >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
    > >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
    > >:
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
    > >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
    > >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
    > >> > > > > the master of the project.
    > >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
    > >> > > > advancements
    > >> > > > > at the local repo.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > We can start right now.
    > >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > Go
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
    > >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
    > >> > > > > some
    > >> > > > code
    > >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
    > yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
    > >> >:
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > > > All,
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
    > >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
    > >> > years.
    > >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
    > >> > > > participate.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Regards,
    > >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
    > >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
    > >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
    > >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
    > >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
    > >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
    > >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > Go
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
    > >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
    > >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Hello,
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
    > >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
    > >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
    > point.
    > >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
    > >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
    > >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
    > >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
    > >> > > > > been clear.
    > >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
    > >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
    > >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
    > >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
    > >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
    > >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
    > >> > > > > > > propose a
    > >> > roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
    > >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
    > >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
    > >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
    > >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
    > >> > roadmap.
    > >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
    > >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
    > >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
    > >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
    > activities.
    > >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
    > >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
    > >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
    > >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
    > >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
    > >> > > > > > > further development activities.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
    > >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
    > >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
    > >> > > > > > > they are
    > >> > > > > merged.
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     Regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
    > >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
    > >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     BTW,
    > >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
    > >> > > > > > > as
    > >> > well?
    > >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
    > >> release?
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
    > >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
    > >> > > > > >:
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
    > >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
    > >> > > > > > > inside
    > >> > Apache?
    > >> > > > > The
    > >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
    > >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
    > >> > > > > > > from
    > >> > > > other
    > >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
    > >> > > > johndament@apache.org
    > >> > > > > >:
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
    > >> > > > > > > make sure
    > >> > > > Go
    > >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
    > >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> John
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
    > >> > > > > > > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
    > >> > > > > > > our
    > >> > > > > > perspective
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
    > >> > > > > > > move the
    > >> > > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
    > >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
    > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
    > >> > > > > > doesn't
    > >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
    > >> > > > > > > original
    > >> > > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
    > >> project,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
    > >> > repository
    > >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
    > >> > > > > > > to the best of my
    > >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > > > Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
    > >> > > > > > > the project
    > >> > > > > > for
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
    > >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > on
    > >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
    > >> > > > > > > on getting
    > >> > > > > > the
    > >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
    > forward.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
    > >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
    > >> > > > > > wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
    > the
    > >> > head.
    > >> > > > > The
    > >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
    > >> > MIRACL.
    > >> > > > > > > You
    > >> > > > > > can
    > >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
    > >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
    > >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
    > >> implications
    > >> > I
    > >> > am
    > >> > > > > > > seeing
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > are
    > >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
    > >> > > > > > > the
    > >> > > > > podling.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
    > >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
    > >> > library.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
    > >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
    > >> > > > > > > like to ask
    > >> > > > > > for
    > >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that
    > is
    > >> > ready
    > >> > > > to
    > >> > > > > > > commit.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since
    > then.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
    > >> > > > repository
    > >> > > > > > is
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
    > >> from
    > >> > > > MIRACL
    > >> > > > > > is
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
    > >> > > > continuously,
    > >> > > > > > it
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
    > >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
    > >> > > > > > > for
    > >> > years.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
    > >> take
    > >> > over
    > >> > > > > the
    > >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
    > >> > problem.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
    > >> johndament@apache.org
    > >> > ]
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
    > project
    > >> > about
    > >> > > > > > > retirement.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
    > >> > > > > > > help out the project.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
    > >> has
    > >> > > > > included
    > >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying
    > the
    > >> > move
    > >> > of
    > >> > > > > > > source
    > >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
    > >> > > > > > > been
    > >> > > > > > unanswered.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
    > >> nothing.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
    > >> > > > repositories
    > >> > > > > > > have
    > >> > > > > > >     >> > not
    > >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
    > Milagro
    > >> > should
    > >> > > > > > > retire.
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
    > >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
    > >> > > > > > >     >>
    > >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
    > >> > > > %3E
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
    > >> > > > > > >     >> >
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    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >     >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >
    > >> > > > > > >
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    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > --
    > >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
    > >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
    > >> > > MIRACL
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > Nikolai Stoilov
    > NOC/Support Team Lead
    > MIRACL
    >
    

Re: Platform dependency

Posted by Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nikolai,
after the talk 12th April i can share.
https://www.meetup.com/Barcelona-UI-UX-Developers/events/248615501/. This
is the time at i will release the stuff. The login is quite easy (it does a
simple post), but i have still no clear picture on how integrate your sdk
in react native.
Which is the current  repository about android sdk and related docs?

Best Regards,
Giorgio.


2018-04-01 15:19 GMT+02:00 Nikolai Stoilov <ni...@miracl.com>:

> Hi Giorgio,
>
> Can you share your React Native implementation?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nikolai
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, i have created in 10 minutes with React Native the login. It is
> really
> > impressive. Using java i will take at least half an hour.
> > Now i will use flask for rest and python ldap
> >
> > 2018-03-29 9:31 GMT+02:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >
> >> Milagro MFA is designed without depending on specific frameworks, and it
> >> should work with react, too.
> >>
> >> If you mean native is a custom authentication module, the answer is no.
> >> However, it should work with react using an LDAP authentication module
> and
> >> I hope this would answer your question.
> >>
> >> The code we have been trying to commit includes an LDAP wrapper that
> >> replaces the standard password authentication with Milagoro MFA.  As we
> >> demonstrated at ApachCon, Milagro MFA works with Django, WordPress,
> Drupal,
> >> and many other applications.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Go Yamamoto
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:58 AM
> >> To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >>
> >> Can be used milagro with react native? I mean the autentication.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2018-03-12 10:13 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >>
> >> > Thank you for guidance.  Sorry, I was somewhat confused.
> >> >
> >> > "We" means NTT in this context.
> >> >
> >> > I understand Milagro project has some difficulty in releasing code at
> >> > the official repository.
> >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-milagro
> >> >
> >> > The reason is not clear for me, however, if a new official repository
> >> > resolves the issue, then I think it is a good idea to install it.
> >> >
> >> > For that purpose NTT is willing to work in managements.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Go Yamamoto
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndament@apache.org]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 10:34 PM
> >> > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2018/03/08 05:20:41, "Go Yamamoto" <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Hi
> >> > >
> >> > > Who is taking care of management tasks right now?
> >> > > We would like to request the official repository to release our
> code.
> >> > > If nobody is working for the task, we will take it over.
> >> >
> >> > Who is "we" in this case?
> >> > http://git.apache.org/ shows 11 repositories for Milagro.
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Go Yamamoto
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Nikolai Stoilov [mailto:nikolai.stoilov@miracl.com]
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 AM
> >> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Go,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding management, I can show someone from your side how to fill
> >> > > in
> >> > the
> >> > monthly reports which are required for the project.
> >> > >
> >> > > Nikolai
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM Giorgio Zoppi
> >> > > <gi...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Ok,
> >> > > > just to be proactive, schedule some tickets when you have a plan
> >> > > > and i will able to do a couple of jiras at week,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2018-02-19 17:15 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks, Giorgio.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > All, let's start planning release the crypto library first.
> >> > > > > I think we can simply start official repository that mirrors
> >> > > > > current crypto code at Miracl's, and then we declare that it is
> >> > > > > the master of the project.
> >> > > > > After that, Miracl's team will pull-request to contribute the
> >> > > > advancements
> >> > > > > at the local repo.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We can start right now.
> >> > > > > Who is managing the official repo right now?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Go
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:00 AM
> >> > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it goes as planner i canhelp and build and test code. Porting
> >> > > > > some
> >> > > > code
> >> > > > > to c++ for the server part.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 2018-02-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <
> yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp
> >> >:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > All,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We again request to discuss renewing the roadmap and to start
> >> > > > > > the official repository to share the codes we have worked for
> >> > years.
> >> > > > > > Kelean, what do you think is blocking this obvious task?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If this project needs help in management, we are willing to
> >> > > > participate.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > Go Yamamto
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Go Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto.go@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 1:24 PM
> >> > > > > > To: 'dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org'
> >> > > > > > <de...@milagro.incubator.apache.org>
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> >> > > > > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible
> >> > > > > > to present a roadmap.
> >> > > > > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Go
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> >> > > > > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some
> >> > > > > > tickets to me and i will help.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem
> >> > <si...@miracl.com>:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hello,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able
> >> > > > > > > to participate in the discussion.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really
> >> > > > > > > clear how this needs to be done from a procedural stand
> point.
> >> > > > > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate
> >> > > > > > > the project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project
> >> > > > > > > mentors can do that, but what needs to be done in order for
> >> > > > > > > this to happen, hasn't
> >> > > > > been clear.
> >> > > > > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have
> >> > > > > > > resources to lead the project, but the question is - in a
> >> > > > > > > community like this, who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> >> > > > > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the
> >> > > > > > > crypto library, with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess
> >> > > > > > > if/when NTT take the leading role on the project, they can
> >> > > > > > > propose a
> >> > roadmap.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with
> >> > > > > > > full unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project
> >> > > > > > > when we figure-out the repositories issue.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> >> > > > > > > Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto"
> >> > > > > > > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the
> >> > roadmap.
> >> > > > > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto
> >> > > > > > > library first, and then the authentication server/clients
> >> > > > > > > second.  What do we need to authorize the plan?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have
> >> > > > > > > found no problems in actual use in our engineering
> activities.
> >> > > > > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before
> >> > > > > > > the crypto library released since the current code does not
> >> > > > > > > seem to cover sub-normal cases necessarily.
> >> > > > > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes
> >> > > > > > > are required for the first release, they will at least help
> >> > > > > > > further development activities.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible
> >> > > > > > > contributions on test codes.
> >> > > > > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if
> >> > > > > > > they are
> >> > > > > merged.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     Regards,
> >> > > > > > >     Go Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> >> > > > > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     BTW,
> >> > > > > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware
> >> > > > > > > as
> >> > well?
> >> > > > > > > IS there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next
> >> release?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <
> >> > > > giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com
> >> > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >     > Hello everybody,
> >> > > > > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library
> >> > > > > > > inside
> >> > Apache?
> >> > > > > The
> >> > > > > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> >> > > > > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used
> >> > > > > > > from
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <
> >> > > > johndament@apache.org
> >> > > > > >:
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> Simeon,
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to
> >> > > > > > > make sure
> >> > > > Go
> >> > > > > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm
> >> > > > > > > not sure that has happened.
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> John
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > > <si...@miracl.com>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Hi all,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide
> >> > > > > > > our
> >> > > > > > perspective
> >> > > > > > >     >> > on
> >> > > > > > >     >> the project.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to
> >> > > > > > > move the
> >> > > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> > repository
> >> > > > > > >     >> that is under Apache, so
> >> > > > > > > https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> >> > > > > > doesn't
> >> > > > > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the
> >> > > > > > > original
> >> > > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the
> >> project,
> >> > > > > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some
> >> > repository
> >> > > > > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past,
> >> > > > > > > to the best of my
> >> > > > > > >     >> memory.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Crypto
> >> > > > > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in
> >> > > > > > > the project
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >     >> the last year or so.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go
> >> > > > > > > Yamamoto will take
> >> > > > > > >     >> > on
> >> > > > > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help
> >> > > > > > > on getting
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it
> forward.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament"
> >> > > > > > > <jo...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on
> the
> >> > head.
> >> > > > > The
> >> > > > > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from
> >> > MIRACL.
> >> > > > > > > You
> >> > > > > > can
> >> > > > > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> >> > > > > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to
> >> > > > > > > Apache hosted git repositories.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the
> >> implications
> >> > I
> >> > am
> >> > > > > > > seeing
> >> > > > > > >     >> > are
> >> > > > > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > podling.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     John
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> >> > > > > > >     >> > <ya...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> >> > > > > > >     >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto
> >> > library.
> >> > > > > > >     >> > Retirement
> >> > > > > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would
> >> > > > > > > like to ask
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that
> is
> >> > ready
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > > commit.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since
> then.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache
> >> > > > repository
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> clear for us.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code
> >> from
> >> > > > MIRACL
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated
> >> > > > continuously,
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > >     >> > seems
> >> > > > > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project
> >> > > > > > > for
> >> > years.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can
> >> take
> >> > over
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the
> >> > problem.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:
> >> johndament@apache.org
> >> > ]
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > To: dev@milagro.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the
> project
> >> > about
> >> > > > > > > retirement.
> >> > > > > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to
> >> > > > > > > help out the project.
> >> > > > > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This
> >> has
> >> > > > > included
> >> > > > > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying
> the
> >> > move
> >> > of
> >> > > > > > > source
> >> > > > > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have
> >> > > > > > > been
> >> > > > > > unanswered.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly
> >> nothing.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your
> >> > > > repositories
> >> > > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > >     >> > not
> >> > > > > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that
> Milagro
> >> > should
> >> > > > > > > retire.
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> >> > > > > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > > ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org
> >> > > > %3E
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >> >
> >> > > > > > >     >>
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >     >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Nikolai Stoilov
> >> > > NOC/Support Team Lead
> >> > > MIRACL
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> Nikolai Stoilov
> NOC/Support Team Lead
> MIRACL
>