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Autoversioning
Hi all,
I am a new subversion user evaluating subversion for our office, and am
intrigued by the autoversioning procedure, as it seems I can skip the whole
versioning training.
I have taken a bit to get it up and running but its stable now and I am
running svn1.3.1/apache2.2.2/os x 10.4.
I am trying to understand the autoversioning process: does it adhere to the
copy-modify-merge model of subversion or does it use the Lock-Modify-Unlock
model?
I ask because I tried to test my auto versioned webdav share using a ms word
file and found that, when it was being edited , other users could only open
read-only copies of the file.
I have read the svn book section on autoversioning, and all it says is that
the system automatically versions the files, but how does it handle merging
files , or conflicts with merging ?
Thanks in advance for your time,
Karl
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RE: Autoversioning
Posted by ja...@subversus.org.
This should give you a lot of information on WebDAV before you decide to use
it:
http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/programming_tool_guides/version_contr
ol_with_subversion/svn.webdav.html
While WebDAV can be nice and make things very easy to use for end-users,
there are some cons against it. Definitely something to research before
jumping into.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Jackson [mailto:karl.jackson@starfarmproductions.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:09 PM
To: Johnathan Gifford; subversion
Subject: Re: Autoversioning
That makes a lot of sense, thanks Johnathan ! What about normal text files,
created using TextEdit on mac os x, is that merge-able using autoversioning?
If 2 people decided open the same text file (or lets say php files, edited
in Dreamweaver for example), would it merge the changes when each of them
saved it to the mounted drive ?
On 6/15/06 4:53 PM, "Johnathan Gifford" <jg...@wernervas.com> wrote:
> All users connecting via WebDAV must authenticate for any MS Office
> application to work, especially on Windows platforms, otherwise you
> will be read only version of the file. Anonymous connections via
> Windows will not work due to the locking of the file.
>
> As far as merging is concerned, since all MS Office application files
> are binary, there is no merging available. It will simply overwrite
> the previous version.
>
> Johnathan
>
>
> On 6/15/06 4:41 PM, "Karl Jackson"
> <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am a new subversion user evaluating subversion for our office, and
>> am intrigued by the autoversioning procedure, as it seems I can skip
>> the whole versioning training.
>> I have taken a bit to get it up and running but its stable now and I
>> am running svn1.3.1/apache2.2.2/os x 10.4.
>>
>> I am trying to understand the autoversioning process: does it adhere
>> to the copy-modify-merge model of subversion or does it use the
>> Lock-Modify-Unlock model?
>>
>> I ask because I tried to test my auto versioned webdav share using a
>> ms word file and found that, when it was being edited , other users
>> could only open read-only copies of the file.
>>
>>
>> I have read the svn book section on autoversioning, and all it says
>> is that the system automatically versions the files, but how does it
>> handle merging files , or conflicts with merging ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time,
>> Karl
>>
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Re: Autoversioning
Posted by Johnathan Gifford <jg...@wernervas.com>.
I'm not sure how merging would be handled with auto-versioning with simple
text files. I haven't tried that yet.
As far as Dreamweaver is concerned, there is add on software that will allow
the user to do a simple checkout to create a local working copy and that
will do updates on the working copy, commits and most of the other simple
good stuff. Anything more complicated than that requires a command line.
You can find out more about this software at:
http://www.grafxsoftware.com/product.php/SVN_for_Dreamweaver/135/
Now, if these people doing the Dreamweaver work are non-developer types,
yeah doing the auto versioning thing makes since. But if they're true
developers, time for them to learn what other developers do. If they
grumble, let them know Subversion skills look great on a resume and they may
not be getting the chance to add that skill to theirs!
Johnathan
On 6/15/06 5:09 PM, "Karl Jackson" <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>
wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense, thanks Johnathan ! What about normal text files,
> created using TextEdit on mac os x, is that merge-able using autoversioning?
>
> If 2 people decided open the same text file (or lets say php files, edited
> in Dreamweaver for example), would it merge the changes when each of them
> saved it to the mounted drive ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/15/06 4:53 PM, "Johnathan Gifford" <jg...@wernervas.com> wrote:
>
>> All users connecting via WebDAV must authenticate for any MS Office
>> application to work, especially on Windows platforms, otherwise you will be
>> read only version of the file. Anonymous connections via Windows will not
>> work due to the locking of the file.
>>
>> As far as merging is concerned, since all MS Office application files are
>> binary, there is no merging available. It will simply overwrite the
>> previous version.
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>> On 6/15/06 4:41 PM, "Karl Jackson" <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am a new subversion user evaluating subversion for our office, and am
>>> intrigued by the autoversioning procedure, as it seems I can skip the whole
>>> versioning training.
>>> I have taken a bit to get it up and running but its stable now and I am
>>> running svn1.3.1/apache2.2.2/os x 10.4.
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand the autoversioning process: does it adhere to the
>>> copy-modify-merge model of subversion or does it use the Lock-Modify-Unlock
>>> model?
>>>
>>> I ask because I tried to test my auto versioned webdav share using a ms word
>>> file and found that, when it was being edited , other users could only open
>>> read-only copies of the file.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have read the svn book section on autoversioning, and all it says is that
>>> the system automatically versions the files, but how does it handle merging
>>> files , or conflicts with merging ?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your time,
>>> Karl
>>>
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Re: Autoversioning
Posted by Karl Jackson <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks Johnathan ! What about normal text files,
created using TextEdit on mac os x, is that merge-able using autoversioning?
If 2 people decided open the same text file (or lets say php files, edited
in Dreamweaver for example), would it merge the changes when each of them
saved it to the mounted drive ?
On 6/15/06 4:53 PM, "Johnathan Gifford" <jg...@wernervas.com> wrote:
> All users connecting via WebDAV must authenticate for any MS Office
> application to work, especially on Windows platforms, otherwise you will be
> read only version of the file. Anonymous connections via Windows will not
> work due to the locking of the file.
>
> As far as merging is concerned, since all MS Office application files are
> binary, there is no merging available. It will simply overwrite the
> previous version.
>
> Johnathan
>
>
> On 6/15/06 4:41 PM, "Karl Jackson" <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am a new subversion user evaluating subversion for our office, and am
>> intrigued by the autoversioning procedure, as it seems I can skip the whole
>> versioning training.
>> I have taken a bit to get it up and running but its stable now and I am
>> running svn1.3.1/apache2.2.2/os x 10.4.
>>
>> I am trying to understand the autoversioning process: does it adhere to the
>> copy-modify-merge model of subversion or does it use the Lock-Modify-Unlock
>> model?
>>
>> I ask because I tried to test my auto versioned webdav share using a ms word
>> file and found that, when it was being edited , other users could only open
>> read-only copies of the file.
>>
>>
>> I have read the svn book section on autoversioning, and all it says is that
>> the system automatically versions the files, but how does it handle merging
>> files , or conflicts with merging ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time,
>> Karl
>>
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Re: Autoversioning
Posted by Johnathan Gifford <jg...@wernervas.com>.
All users connecting via WebDAV must authenticate for any MS Office
application to work, especially on Windows platforms, otherwise you will be
read only version of the file. Anonymous connections via Windows will not
work due to the locking of the file.
As far as merging is concerned, since all MS Office application files are
binary, there is no merging available. It will simply overwrite the
previous version.
Johnathan
On 6/15/06 4:41 PM, "Karl Jackson" <ka...@starfarmproductions.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am a new subversion user evaluating subversion for our office, and am
> intrigued by the autoversioning procedure, as it seems I can skip the whole
> versioning training.
> I have taken a bit to get it up and running but its stable now and I am
> running svn1.3.1/apache2.2.2/os x 10.4.
>
> I am trying to understand the autoversioning process: does it adhere to the
> copy-modify-merge model of subversion or does it use the Lock-Modify-Unlock
> model?
>
> I ask because I tried to test my auto versioned webdav share using a ms word
> file and found that, when it was being edited , other users could only open
> read-only copies of the file.
>
>
> I have read the svn book section on autoversioning, and all it says is that
> the system automatically versions the files, but how does it handle merging
> files , or conflicts with merging ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your time,
> Karl
>
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