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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by "Glenn A. Thompson" <gt...@cdr.net> on 2002/06/05 18:51:13 UTC

[Fwd: Subversion support?]

Hey folks:

Is the following "Ben" out there on the dev list?
I assume a project on tigris.org is no problem?

gat

Francis Irving wrote:

> Yes, in fact there is somebody working on it.  It would be a separate
> project based on TortoiseCVS code, and I don't know how far he's got.
>
> Ben, meet Glenn.  Glenn, meet Ben!
>
> I would love a TortoiseCVS style interface to be the standard GUI
> Windows interface for Subversion.  Any chance of making such a project
> in some way an official part of Subversion, hosted as a project on
> tigris.org, and recommended as a major client?
>
> In particular, I hope that the Subversion API works well with GUI
> interfaces (for progress bars, to avoid any need to parse text output),
> and understand that the sooner someone starts using that API for a GUI,
> the better it will be for that purpose.
>
> Francis
>
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:05:00PM -0400, Glenn A. Thompson wrote:
> > Hi Irving:
> >
> > My name Glenn Thompson.
> > I downloaded TortioseCVS some time ago and was very impressed with it's
> > ease of use.
> > Recently, I have become involved with the Subversion project.
> > http://subversion.tigris.org/
> > If you are unfamiliar with the project please have a look around on the
> > web site.
> > Anyway,  several people on the Subversion dev list have complemented the
> > TortioseCVS interface.
> > So I said I would ask you if would consider supporting Subversion in
> > addition to CVS.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn A. Thompson  (gat)
> >
> > gthompson@cdr.net
> >
>
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Re: [Fwd: Subversion support?]

Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
Glenn A. Thompson quotes Francis Irving as saying:
 > Yes, in fact there is somebody working on it.  It would be a separate
 > project based on TortoiseCVS code, and I don't know how far he's got.
 >
 > Ben, meet Glenn.  Glenn, meet Ben!
 >
 > I would love a TortoiseCVS style interface to be the standard GUI
 > Windows interface for Subversion.  Any chance of making such a project
 > in some way an official part of Subversion, hosted as a project on
 > tigris.org, and recommended as a major client?
 >
 > In particular, I hope that the Subversion API works well with GUI
 > interfaces (for progress bars, to avoid any need to parse text output),
 > and understand that the sooner someone starts using that API for a GUI,
 > the better it will be for that purpose.

Sure!  I think we have the necessary support.  But anyway, the APIs
are still allowed to change, so whatever a GUI needs that we don't
have, we'll fix :-).

And we're happy to have it in the Subversion source tree, in the
subversion/clients/ subdirectory.  Whether or not it is perceived as a
"major client" is, of course, not really up to us -- it's a question
of how quickly the code progresses, and how happy users are with it.

Another way to say it is: the Subversion project wouldn't take any
official position regarding such a GUI unless a) a fair number of
Subversion developers were also active on the client, and could
endorse it, or b) it became clear that many users were using it.  And
even then, the position would merely be to say that such-and-such
client is ready for the real world, so please check it out.

Credibility comes from running code and happy users, not from official
pronouncements :-).

-Karl

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