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Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs
?
As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that the
heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
achieving that but
if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not a
true tag why
have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
learn a new "language"
and just use a scriptlet?
Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
conspiracy so that all the
UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel is
taking over, starting
writing "tag" libraries.
I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
tags?
JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun) because
if you knew Java then
you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
:-)
Re[6]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Martin Naskovski <mn...@san.rr.com>.
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 12:49:44 AM, you wrote:
RB> If the reason to use a tag in this example is because it looks like it
RB> belongs, and its not actual Java code, than I'm fine with it. I have
RB> nothing against tags. All I'm pointing out is that if you are trying to
RB> avoid logic in your JSPs (like in the example given), you are not
RB> accomplishing it.
RB> ranko
You can not avoid logic in your view. If you do that, than for every
permutation of logic, you'd have a different view. That's just f-ing
stupid. Don't take the View stuff to that extreme, that's just wrong.
Use logic in JSP by all means. Just try to express it through JSTL,
and have your business logic elsewhere, outside of the view. Thats all
I'm saying.
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RE: Re[4]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Ranko Bijelonic <rb...@yahoo.com>.
If the reason to use a tag in this example is because it looks like it
belongs, and its not actual Java code, than I'm fine with it. I have
nothing against tags. All I'm pointing out is that if you are trying to
avoid logic in your JSPs (like in the example given), you are not
accomplishing it.
ranko
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Naskovski [mailto:mnaskovs@san.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:42 AM
To: Ranko Bijelonic
Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re[4]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these
tags libs?
Then, if they're so alike as you claim, use the JSTL conditional tags.
Or are you just playing devil's advocate by using scriptlets anyway
because you 'feel' they're ok if used in a certain manner?
You either do stuff a certain way, or you don't do it at all. Breaking
a certain paradigm because it suits you or you think it's ok in
certain cases should only be warranted under dire circumstances, and
should be an exception rather than a rule. You seem to make it a rule.
And that, my friend, is wrong. Try harder next time. :) Your JSP will
look nicer w/out scriptlets. Put java code where it belongs - in Java
files, not in JSPs.
Martin
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 12:33:26 AM, you wrote:
RB> In the example below, there isn't much difference between the scriplet
and
RB> the tag. Both of them are conditionals checking if index is an even
number.
RB> That fact that one is a scriptlet and the other is a tag is only a
matter of
RB> 'syntax' to me. Logically, the developer is doing the same thing there.
We
RB> can pretend like we are not scripting there since we are using the tag,
but
RB> I can pretend I'm dating Angelina Jolie when I'm really....not. That
said,
RB> I think there is nothing wrong with having display logic (in tag or
RB> scriptlet form) in the JSPs. Lets say your requirements are to display
a
RB> list of entries with every odd entry in blue and even in red. I cannot
RB> think of a better way to do this than with a conditional in the view.
RB> ranko
RB> -----Original Message-----
RB> From: Martin Naskovski [mailto:mnaskovs@san.rr.com]
RB> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:12 AM
RB> To: Ranko Bijelonic
RB> Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
RB> Subject: Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these
RB> tags libs?
RB> JSTL+the struts tags and/or struts-el, for me has completely
RB> eliminated the need to use scriptlets. Using scriptlets invites the
RB> use of business logic in your view (at least, for less experienced
RB> programmers). This, IMHO, is a major violation of the MVC paradigm,
RB> and programmers doing that should be shot.
RB> This is why you should stay clear of scriptlets, no if's and's or
RB> but's. If you design your code correctly, you should be able to live
RB> w/out scriptlets.
RB> Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 5:37:26 PM, you wrote:
RB>> yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to
RB> worry
RB>> about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously
RB> though,
RB>> most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to
RB> me as
RB>> a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably
RB> prefer to
RB>> learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language
they
RB>> would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more
RB>> tag-like.
RB>> While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would
RB> that be
RB>> too much for now? :).
RB>> ranko
RB>> -----Original Message-----
RB>> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
RB>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
RB>> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
RB>> Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
RB>> libs?
RB>> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know
that
RB> the
RB>> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
RB>> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
RB>> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
RB>> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
RB>> achieving that but
RB>> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and
not
RB> a
RB>> true tag why
RB>> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first
place)
RB>> learn a new "language"
RB>> and just use a scriptlet?
RB>> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
RB>> conspiracy so that all the
RB>> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel
RB> is
RB>> taking over, starting
RB>> writing "tag" libraries.
RB>> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
RB>> tags?
RB>> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun)
RB> because
RB>> if you knew Java then
RB>> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
RB>> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
RB>> :-)
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Re[4]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Martin Naskovski <mn...@san.rr.com>.
Then, if they're so alike as you claim, use the JSTL conditional tags.
Or are you just playing devil's advocate by using scriptlets anyway
because you 'feel' they're ok if used in a certain manner?
You either do stuff a certain way, or you don't do it at all. Breaking
a certain paradigm because it suits you or you think it's ok in
certain cases should only be warranted under dire circumstances, and
should be an exception rather than a rule. You seem to make it a rule.
And that, my friend, is wrong. Try harder next time. :) Your JSP will
look nicer w/out scriptlets. Put java code where it belongs - in Java
files, not in JSPs.
Martin
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 12:33:26 AM, you wrote:
RB> In the example below, there isn't much difference between the scriplet and
RB> the tag. Both of them are conditionals checking if index is an even number.
RB> That fact that one is a scriptlet and the other is a tag is only a matter of
RB> 'syntax' to me. Logically, the developer is doing the same thing there. We
RB> can pretend like we are not scripting there since we are using the tag, but
RB> I can pretend I'm dating Angelina Jolie when I'm really....not. That said,
RB> I think there is nothing wrong with having display logic (in tag or
RB> scriptlet form) in the JSPs. Lets say your requirements are to display a
RB> list of entries with every odd entry in blue and even in red. I cannot
RB> think of a better way to do this than with a conditional in the view.
RB> ranko
RB> -----Original Message-----
RB> From: Martin Naskovski [mailto:mnaskovs@san.rr.com]
RB> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:12 AM
RB> To: Ranko Bijelonic
RB> Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
RB> Subject: Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these
RB> tags libs?
RB> JSTL+the struts tags and/or struts-el, for me has completely
RB> eliminated the need to use scriptlets. Using scriptlets invites the
RB> use of business logic in your view (at least, for less experienced
RB> programmers). This, IMHO, is a major violation of the MVC paradigm,
RB> and programmers doing that should be shot.
RB> This is why you should stay clear of scriptlets, no if's and's or
RB> but's. If you design your code correctly, you should be able to live
RB> w/out scriptlets.
RB> Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 5:37:26 PM, you wrote:
RB>> yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to
RB> worry
RB>> about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously
RB> though,
RB>> most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to
RB> me as
RB>> a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably
RB> prefer to
RB>> learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language they
RB>> would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more
RB>> tag-like.
RB>> While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would
RB> that be
RB>> too much for now? :).
RB>> ranko
RB>> -----Original Message-----
RB>> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
RB>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
RB>> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
RB>> Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
RB>> libs?
RB>> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that
RB> the
RB>> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
RB>> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
RB>> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
RB>> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
RB>> achieving that but
RB>> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not
RB> a
RB>> true tag why
RB>> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
RB>> learn a new "language"
RB>> and just use a scriptlet?
RB>> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
RB>> conspiracy so that all the
RB>> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel
RB> is
RB>> taking over, starting
RB>> writing "tag" libraries.
RB>> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
RB>> tags?
RB>> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun)
RB> because
RB>> if you knew Java then
RB>> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
RB>> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
RB>> :-)
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RE: Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Ranko Bijelonic <rb...@yahoo.com>.
In the example below, there isn't much difference between the scriplet and
the tag. Both of them are conditionals checking if index is an even number.
That fact that one is a scriptlet and the other is a tag is only a matter of
'syntax' to me. Logically, the developer is doing the same thing there. We
can pretend like we are not scripting there since we are using the tag, but
I can pretend I'm dating Angelina Jolie when I'm really....not. That said,
I think there is nothing wrong with having display logic (in tag or
scriptlet form) in the JSPs. Lets say your requirements are to display a
list of entries with every odd entry in blue and even in red. I cannot
think of a better way to do this than with a conditional in the view.
ranko
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Naskovski [mailto:mnaskovs@san.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:12 AM
To: Ranko Bijelonic
Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these
tags libs?
JSTL+the struts tags and/or struts-el, for me has completely
eliminated the need to use scriptlets. Using scriptlets invites the
use of business logic in your view (at least, for less experienced
programmers). This, IMHO, is a major violation of the MVC paradigm,
and programmers doing that should be shot.
This is why you should stay clear of scriptlets, no if's and's or
but's. If you design your code correctly, you should be able to live
w/out scriptlets.
Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 5:37:26 PM, you wrote:
RB> yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to
worry
RB> about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously
though,
RB> most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to
me as
RB> a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably
prefer to
RB> learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language they
RB> would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more
RB> tag-like.
RB> While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would
that be
RB> too much for now? :).
RB> ranko
RB> -----Original Message-----
RB> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
RB> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
RB> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
RB> Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
RB> libs?
RB> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that
the
RB> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
RB> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
RB> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
RB> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
RB> achieving that but
RB> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not
a
RB> true tag why
RB> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
RB> learn a new "language"
RB> and just use a scriptlet?
RB> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
RB> conspiracy so that all the
RB> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel
is
RB> taking over, starting
RB> writing "tag" libraries.
RB> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
RB> tags?
RB> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun)
because
RB> if you knew Java then
RB> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
RB> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
RB> :-)
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Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Martin Naskovski <mn...@san.rr.com>.
JSTL+the struts tags and/or struts-el, for me has completely
eliminated the need to use scriptlets. Using scriptlets invites the
use of business logic in your view (at least, for less experienced
programmers). This, IMHO, is a major violation of the MVC paradigm,
and programmers doing that should be shot.
This is why you should stay clear of scriptlets, no if's and's or
but's. If you design your code correctly, you should be able to live
w/out scriptlets.
Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 5:37:26 PM, you wrote:
RB> yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to worry
RB> about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously though,
RB> most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to me as
RB> a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably prefer to
RB> learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language they
RB> would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more
RB> tag-like.
RB> While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would that be
RB> too much for now? :).
RB> ranko
RB> -----Original Message-----
RB> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
RB> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
RB> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
RB> Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
RB> libs?
RB> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that the
RB> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
RB> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
RB> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
RB> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
RB> achieving that but
RB> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not a
RB> true tag why
RB> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
RB> learn a new "language"
RB> and just use a scriptlet?
RB> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
RB> conspiracy so that all the
RB> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel is
RB> taking over, starting
RB> writing "tag" libraries.
RB> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
RB> tags?
RB> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun) because
RB> if you knew Java then
RB> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
RB> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
RB> :-)
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RE: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Ranko Bijelonic <rb...@yahoo.com>.
yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to worry
about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously though,
most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to me as
a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably prefer to
learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language they
would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more
tag-like.
While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would that be
too much for now? :).
ranko
-----Original Message-----
From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
libs?
As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that the
heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
achieving that but
if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not a
true tag why
have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
learn a new "language"
and just use a scriptlet?
Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
conspiracy so that all the
UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel is
taking over, starting
writing "tag" libraries.
I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
tags?
JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun) because
if you knew Java then
you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
:-)
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Re: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs ?
Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
--- "Bailey, Shane C." <SH...@saic.com> wrote:
>
>
> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that
> the
> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
>
> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
>
> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
> achieving that but
>
> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not
> a
> true tag why
>
> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
> learn a new "language"
>
> and just use a scriptlet?
If you extend your example to use nested properties, maps, lists, etc you
will start to see why the <c:if> tag is easier.
>
> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
> conspiracy so that all the
>
> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel
> is
> taking over,
This is a rather skewed perception of reality.
David
> starting
>
> writing "tag" libraries.
>
>
>
> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
> tags?
>
> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun)
> because
> if you knew Java then
>
> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
>
>
>
> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
>
>
>
> :-)
>
>
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RE: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Brian McSweeney <br...@aurium.net>.
What's really so wrong with scriptlets?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Jasnowski [mailto:mjasnows@bea.com]
Sent: 23 July 2003 15:30
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these
tags libs?
IMO, I wouldn't take examples like that as a "best" practice for using
tags.
In some cases I think people sometime try to squeeze too much
functionality
out of a set of tags, rather than creating higher-level tags to
accomplish
what they want. Or there might be shortcomings in the tags they're
using
to achieve it in a cleaner way.
>if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and
not a
>true tag why
Why not write/refactor the tag to do what you want? Why do you have to
resort to scriplets?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
libs?
As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that
the
heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
achieving that but
if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not
a
true tag why
have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
learn a new "language"
and just use a scriptlet?
Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
conspiracy so that all the
UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel
is
taking over, starting
writing "tag" libraries.
I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
tags?
JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun)
because
if you knew Java then
you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
:-)
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RE: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags libs?
Posted by Mike Jasnowski <mj...@bea.com>.
IMO, I wouldn't take examples like that as a "best" practice for using tags.
In some cases I think people sometime try to squeeze too much functionality
out of a set of tags, rather than creating higher-level tags to accomplish
what they want. Or there might be shortcomings in the tags they're using
to achieve it in a cleaner way.
>if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not a
>true tag why
Why not write/refactor the tag to do what you want? Why do you have to
resort to scriplets?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:SHANE.C.BAILEY@saic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags
libs?
As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that the
heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there?
I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <%
if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %>
I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at
achieving that but
if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not a
true tag why
have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place)
learn a new "language"
and just use a scriptlet?
Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of
conspiracy so that all the
UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel is
taking over, starting
writing "tag" libraries.
I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't
tags?
JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun) because
if you knew Java then
you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter.
So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am?
:-)
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