Java ME

[Bartek Teodorczyk <ba...@barteo.net>]

Hi,

I'd like to ask about interest in Apache community widening scope of
Harmony project to Java ME.

Let me introduce myself first. My name is Bartek Teodorczyk and I'm a
leader of MicroEmulator (http://www.microemu.org/) project, LGPL
implementation of Java ME written on top of Java SE. It provides MIDP2
and several other mobile JSR implementations. Recently we got a bit
more attention by commercial companies which would like use
MicroEmulator. During some discussions we've got conclusion that it
makes a lot of sense to migrate project to Apache license which is
more attractive for commercial companies, especially in mobile
software world. I truly believe that may also help evolve the project
significantly. We also seriously consider donating the project to the
Apache Foundation.

And go back to the question. I'd be grateful to get some feedback from
Harmony community whether it would be a room for MicroEmulator inside
Harmony project or we should rather start looking into Incubator
procedure?

Best Regards,
Bartek Teodorczyk

Re: Java ME

[Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>]

Hello,
It is really interesting to hear about MicroEmulator project.

> If the microemu code is large, with a
> significant number of people who are new to Apache, etc. then going
> through the incubator (perhaps with a Harmony mentor) will be a good
> experience for learning the Apache way of doing things, and migrating
> the project.

According to a subversion most of the MicroEmulator code is
copyrighted by Bartek and Vlad.
http://microemulator.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/microemulator/trunk/microemulator/

Thanks.

On Feb 5, 2008 7:02 PM, Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bartek,
>
> A few people have dropped in to suggest doing mobile libraries, and/or
> an embedded VM.  Such an endeavor would certainly be within the scope of
> the Harmony project charter.
>
> I'm unfamiliar with MicroEmulator, so without a bit more investigation I
> can't really say whether it would be more appropriate to consider
> working straight in the Harmony project, or starting out as an incubator
> project with a view to joining Harmony upon graduation.
>
> A deciding factor would be the overlap in the communities that work in
> the existing and new code base.  If the microemu code is large, with a
> significant number of people who are new to Apache, etc. then going
> through the incubator (perhaps with a Harmony mentor) will be a good
> experience for learning the Apache way of doing things, and migrating
> the project.
>
> Another factor would be the provenance of the code, and prior experience
> of the contributors, since Harmony has a rigorous contribution policy
> that we guard carefully.
>
> But to answer your specific question, Harmony is the right place for
> work on virtual machines and platform class libraries at Apache.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> Bartek Teodorczyk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to ask about interest in Apache community widening scope of
> > Harmony project to Java ME.
> >
> > Let me introduce myself first. My name is Bartek Teodorczyk and I'm a
> > leader of MicroEmulator (http://www.microemu.org/) project, LGPL
> > implementation of Java ME written on top of Java SE. It provides MIDP2
> > and several other mobile JSR implementations. Recently we got a bit
> > more attention by commercial companies which would like use
> > MicroEmulator. During some discussions we've got conclusion that it
> > makes a lot of sense to migrate project to Apache license which is
> > more attractive for commercial companies, especially in mobile
> > software world. I truly believe that may also help evolve the project
> > significantly. We also seriously consider donating the project to the
> > Apache Foundation.
> >
> > And go back to the question. I'd be grateful to get some feedback from
> > Harmony community whether it would be a room for MicroEmulator inside
> > Harmony project or we should rather start looking into Incubator
> > procedure?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Bartek Teodorczyk
> >
>



-- 
With best regards,
Alexei,
ESSD, Intel

Re: Java ME

[Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>]

Hi Bartek,

A few people have dropped in to suggest doing mobile libraries, and/or 
an embedded VM.  Such an endeavor would certainly be within the scope of 
the Harmony project charter.

I'm unfamiliar with MicroEmulator, so without a bit more investigation I 
can't really say whether it would be more appropriate to consider 
working straight in the Harmony project, or starting out as an incubator 
project with a view to joining Harmony upon graduation.

A deciding factor would be the overlap in the communities that work in 
the existing and new code base.  If the microemu code is large, with a 
significant number of people who are new to Apache, etc. then going 
through the incubator (perhaps with a Harmony mentor) will be a good 
experience for learning the Apache way of doing things, and migrating 
the project.

Another factor would be the provenance of the code, and prior experience 
of the contributors, since Harmony has a rigorous contribution policy 
that we guard carefully.

But to answer your specific question, Harmony is the right place for 
work on virtual machines and platform class libraries at Apache.

Regards,
Tim

Bartek Teodorczyk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to ask about interest in Apache community widening scope of
> Harmony project to Java ME.
> 
> Let me introduce myself first. My name is Bartek Teodorczyk and I'm a
> leader of MicroEmulator (http://www.microemu.org/) project, LGPL
> implementation of Java ME written on top of Java SE. It provides MIDP2
> and several other mobile JSR implementations. Recently we got a bit
> more attention by commercial companies which would like use
> MicroEmulator. During some discussions we've got conclusion that it
> makes a lot of sense to migrate project to Apache license which is
> more attractive for commercial companies, especially in mobile
> software world. I truly believe that may also help evolve the project
> significantly. We also seriously consider donating the project to the
> Apache Foundation.
> 
> And go back to the question. I'd be grateful to get some feedback from
> Harmony community whether it would be a room for MicroEmulator inside
> Harmony project or we should rather start looking into Incubator
> procedure?
> 
> Best Regards,
> Bartek Teodorczyk
>