Re: Rewrite AOO in JAVA

[Dale Erwin <da...@casaerwin.org>]

Seems to me that with a code base as large as that of AOO, an 
interpreted language would make it even slower than it is, and it's no 
speed demon now.  I know Java is not a slow as other interpreted 
languages, but still...

Dale Erwin
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On 8/31/2012 1:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Niall  Martin
> <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> I would have thought the developers would be cautious on this one. Many security experts seem to
>> regard Java as dangerously buggy.
>
> Oh for God´s sake. Lots of software has "critical" security updates
> during its lifetime... Including the Linux kernel. Microsoft´s own
> .Net has "critical security updates" every "patch tuesday" yet I don´t
> see the same level of paranoia and Reuters advising people to
> "uninstall .Net". Yet, Java always get the scaremongering. It´s no
> surprise, really, since Microsoft has been hard at work to derail Java
> since its inception (see "operation Sunblock", 1997)
> http://t.co/uzHhWGop
>
> In fact, the latest security scare was with regards to Java usage on
> web browsers (java plug-in), not Java used for desktop apps.
>
> And for the record, it´s been fixed yesterday with the release of Java
> 7 update 7.
> There´s even Java 7u7 OpenJDK builds for OSX too...
>
> Sheesh...
> FC




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Re: Rewrite AOO in JAVA

[Fernando Cassia <fc...@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Dale Erwin <da...@casaerwin.org> wrote:
>  I know Java is not a slow as other interpreted languages, but still...

Several misconceptions.

1. Java is not "an interpreted language". Java bytecode is compiled to
native code on the fly by the JIT. Heard of the JIT?

"JIT builds upon two earlier ideas in run-time environments: bytecode
compilation and dynamic compilation. It converts code at runtime prior
to executing it natively, for example bytecode into native machine
code.

Several modern runtime environments, such as Microsoft's .NET
Framework and most implementations of Java, rely on JIT compilation
for high-speed code execution."

2. Java is not only a programing language. It´s actually 3 things: .A
programming language :), a virtual machine, and a level playing field
software ecosystem.

In fact you can write Java apps without writing a single line of Java
(programming language) code, thanks to several alternative JVM
languages... from Python to Ruby to Rexx (www.netrexx.org) or even
Basic if you want (via Jabaco - Basic to Java bytecode compiler)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_JVM_languages

You might also want to read

Java theory and practice: performance urban legends, revisited
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jtp09275/index.html

But having said all of the above, I humbly suggest we ignore the OP as
he seems to be a time-wasting troll. He repeated his "request", we had
this argument before, and there he comes again to "propose" exactly
the same thing as he had never done it before...

Sheesh kebab
FC

-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell

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