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[PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and Jakarta
Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In my
opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that although
the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons repository
(see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them emeritus
committers) is one way to recognize that fact.

The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for a
variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
<http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>

The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not made
any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):

amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
arron - Arron Bates
conor - Conor MacNeill
dsale - Doug Sale
dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
hammant - Paul Hammant
husted - Ted Husted
jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
jefft - Jeff Turner
marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
mas - Michael Smith
nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
noel - Noel J. Bergman
paulo - Paulo Gaspar
serge - Serge Knystautas
vmassol - Vincent Massol

It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways, for
instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I haven't
checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).

Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by that
metric at least).

Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of folks
on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple post
to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
and reverse the inactive status.

The Proposal:

Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right now
(or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  Specifically,
let's:

(1) remove those folks from the avail file and

(2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing page)
to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions and
indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.

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Re: [RESULT] Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
Updated.  See <http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/contributors.html>.

Can someone remove the following 12 names from the avail file for
jakarta-commons (not -sandbox, just commons)

> > >>arron - Arron Bates
> > >>conor - Conor MacNeill
> > >>dsale - Doug Sale
> > >>dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> > >>hammant - Paul Hammant
> > >>jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> > >>jefft - Jeff Turner
> > >>marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> > >>mas - Michael Smith
> > >>nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> > >>paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> > >>vmassol - Vincent Massol

Thanks.

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Re: [RESULT] Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
Ok.  I just committed the xdoc changes, but I'll fix 'em.

The new list to remove from the avail file is:

> >>arron - Arron Bates
> >>conor - Conor MacNeill
> >>dsale - Doug Sale
> >>dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> >>hammant - Paul Hammant
> >>jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> >>jefft - Jeff Turner
> >>marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> >>mas - Michael Smith
> >>nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> >>paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> >>vmassol - Vincent Massol

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Serge Knystautas wrote:

> Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> > With 6 binding +1s [Rodney Waldhoff, David Graham, Yoav Shapira, Martin
> > Cooper, Gary Gregory, Robert Burrell Donkin] and no -1s, this vote has
> > passed.
> >
> > As noted in the thread, Arun and Ted
> > have been otherwise active, so that leaves the following 14 committers
> > being moved to emeritus status:
> >>arron - Arron Bates
> >>conor - Conor MacNeill
> >>dsale - Doug Sale
> >>dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> >>hammant - Paul Hammant
> >>jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> >>jefft - Jeff Turner
> >>marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> >>mas - Michael Smith
> >>nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> >>noel - Noel J. Bergman
> >>paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> >>serge - Serge Knystautas
> >>vmassol - Vincent Massol
>
> Sorry, I thought there were provisions for newly added committers who
> hadn't committed yet.
>
> Noel and I were just made committers a couple of months ago, and I don't
> think should be moved to emeritus.
>
>

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Re: [RESULT] Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Serge Knystautas <se...@lokitech.com>.
Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> With 6 binding +1s [Rodney Waldhoff, David Graham, Yoav Shapira, Martin
> Cooper, Gary Gregory, Robert Burrell Donkin] and no -1s, this vote has
> passed.
> 
> As noted in the thread, Arun and Ted
> have been otherwise active, so that leaves the following 14 committers
> being moved to emeritus status:
>>arron - Arron Bates
>>conor - Conor MacNeill
>>dsale - Doug Sale
>>dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
>>hammant - Paul Hammant
>>jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
>>jefft - Jeff Turner
>>marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
>>mas - Michael Smith
>>nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
>>noel - Noel J. Bergman
>>paulo - Paulo Gaspar
>>serge - Serge Knystautas
>>vmassol - Vincent Massol

Sorry, I thought there were provisions for newly added committers who 
hadn't committed yet.

Noel and I were just made committers a couple of months ago, and I don't 
think should be moved to emeritus.

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President
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[RESULT] Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
With 6 binding +1s [Rodney Waldhoff, David Graham, Yoav Shapira, Martin
Cooper, Gary Gregory, Robert Burrell Donkin] and no -1s, this vote has
passed.

As noted in the thread, Arun and Ted
have been otherwise active, so that leaves the following 14 committers
being moved to emeritus status:

> arron - Arron Bates
> conor - Conor MacNeill
> dsale - Doug Sale
> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> hammant - Paul Hammant
> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> jefft - Jeff Turner
> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> mas - Michael Smith
> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> serge - Serge Knystautas
> vmassol - Vincent Massol

I can set up the emeritus committers page today, but I don't think I've
got karma for modifying the avail file.  Can someone volunteer to take
care of the avail file?

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:

> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and Jakarta
> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In my
> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that although
> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons repository
> (see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them emeritus
> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
>
> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for a
> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
>
> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not made
> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
>
> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> arron - Arron Bates
> conor - Conor MacNeill
> dsale - Doug Sale
> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> hammant - Paul Hammant
> husted - Ted Husted
> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> jefft - Jeff Turner
> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> mas - Michael Smith
> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> serge - Serge Knystautas
> vmassol - Vincent Massol
>
> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways, for
> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I haven't
> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).
>
> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by that
> metric at least).
>
> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of folks
> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple post
> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
> and reverse the inactive status.
>
> The Proposal:
>
> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right now
> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  Specifically,
> let's:
>
> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
>
> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing page)
> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions and
> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
>
>

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Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
I did not take sandbox commits into account, since the sandbox is open to
any jakarta, or indeed, apache commmitter.

I.e., I was treating jakarta-commons-sandbox as a different kind of
repository.

So, so far we're moving Ted and Arun over to the active category.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Martin Cooper wrote:

> I'm OK with this in principle. However, there would appear to be a bug in
> the process used to determine the initial list. For example, Ted Husted
> has been active quite recently:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=106502784302590&w=2
>
> Perhaps you did not take sandbox commits into account?
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
>
> > There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and Jakarta
> > Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In my
> > opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
> > case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that although
> > the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons repository
> > (see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> > not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
> > Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them emeritus
> > committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
> >
> > The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for a
> > variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
> > more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> > simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> > <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
> >
> > The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not made
> > any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
> >
> > amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> > arron - Arron Bates
> > conor - Conor MacNeill
> > dsale - Doug Sale
> > dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> > hammant - Paul Hammant
> > husted - Ted Husted
> > jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> > jefft - Jeff Turner
> > marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> > mas - Michael Smith
> > nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> > noel - Noel J. Bergman
> > paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> > serge - Serge Knystautas
> > vmassol - Vincent Massol
> >
> > It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways, for
> > instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I haven't
> > checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).
> >
> > Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
> > more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by that
> > metric at least).
> >
> > Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> > maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
> > sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of folks
> > on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> > recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> > attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> > reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple post
> > to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
> > and reverse the inactive status.
> >
> > The Proposal:
> >
> > Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right now
> > (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
> > the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> > guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  Specifically,
> > let's:
> >
> > (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
> >
> > (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing page)
> > to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions and
> > indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
I'm OK with this in principle. However, there would appear to be a bug in
the process used to determine the initial list. For example, Ted Husted
has been active quite recently:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=106502784302590&w=2

Perhaps you did not take sandbox commits into account?

--
Martin Cooper



On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:

> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and Jakarta
> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In my
> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that although
> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons repository
> (see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them emeritus
> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
>
> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for a
> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
>
> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not made
> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
>
> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> arron - Arron Bates
> conor - Conor MacNeill
> dsale - Doug Sale
> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> hammant - Paul Hammant
> husted - Ted Husted
> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> jefft - Jeff Turner
> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> mas - Michael Smith
> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> serge - Serge Knystautas
> vmassol - Vincent Massol
>
> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways, for
> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I haven't
> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).
>
> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by that
> metric at least).
>
> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of folks
> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple post
> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
> and reverse the inactive status.
>
> The Proposal:
>
> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right now
> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  Specifically,
> let's:
>
> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
>
> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing page)
> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions and
> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
>
>

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Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
+1

thanks for starting this, rod. (there are good security reasons why we 
should minimize permissions for inactive committers.)

i'd probably prefer to see a reasonable grace time for people to pick 
this up. it's easy to miss email directed to the whole of the commons.

i'd like to see a polite email sent to the apache.org account of each 
committer de-actived in this way before the actual deactivation.

BTW i think that exercise is something that we'll need to repeat 
sometime soon for the whole of jakarta.

- robert

On 13 Nov 2003, at 17:38, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:

> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and 
> Jakarta
> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In 
> my
> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that 
> although
> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons 
> repository
> (see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them 
> emeritus
> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
>
> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for 
> a
> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
>
> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not 
> made
> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
>
> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> arron - Arron Bates
> conor - Conor MacNeill
> dsale - Doug Sale
> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> hammant - Paul Hammant
> husted - Ted Husted
> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> jefft - Jeff Turner
> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> mas - Michael Smith
> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> serge - Serge Knystautas
> vmassol - Vincent Massol
>
> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways, 
> for
> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I 
> haven't
> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).
>
> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by 
> that
> metric at least).
>
> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of 
> folks
> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple 
> post
> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
> and reverse the inactive status.
>
> The Proposal:
>
> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right 
> now
> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  
> Specifically,
> let's:
>
> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
>
> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing 
> page)
> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions 
> and
> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
>
> -- 
> - Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?

Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
+1 though I suspect determining the final list to remove will take a
while.

David

--- Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and
> Jakarta
> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.   In
> my
> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not the
> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that
> although
> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons
> repository
> (see http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons anymore.
> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them
> emeritus
> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
> 
> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive for a
> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months or
> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
> 
> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not
> made
> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
> 
> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> arron - Arron Bates
> conor - Conor MacNeill
> dsale - Doug Sale
> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> hammant - Paul Hammant
> husted - Ted Husted
> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> jefft - Jeff Turner
> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> mas - Michael Smith
> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> serge - Serge Knystautas
> vmassol - Vincent Massol
> 
> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS ways,
> for
> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I haven't
> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check that).
> 
> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56, a
> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by
> that
> metric at least).
> 
> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this some
> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of
> folks
> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple
> post
> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS access
> and reverse the inactive status.
> 
> The Proposal:
> 
> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right
> now
> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity in
> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.  Specifically,
> let's:
> 
> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
> 
> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing page)
> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions and
> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
> 
> -- 
> - Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
> 
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