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Posted to dev@tika.apache.org by Chris Mattmann <ma...@apache.org> on 2014/06/19 00:02:54 UTC

Review Request 22761: Create a Tika Translator implementation that uses JoshuaDecoder

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Review request for tika.


Bugs: tika-1343
    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/tika-1343


Repository: tika


Description
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The Joshua Decoder toolkit is a BSD licensed Java-based statistical machine translation system hosted at Github:

http://joshua-decoder.org/

Joshua takes in corpuses and trains models that can then be used to do language translation. Currently there is support for e.g., Spanisn->English, Indian dialects->English, Chinese->English, and a few others.

https://github.com/joshua-decoder/joshua/

It would be nice to build a Tika Translator on top of Joshua. There are of course several issues with this:

* the models are huge - so we'll need a separate package or Maven module, maybe tika-translate-joshua or something to release the models and we'll need to build the models. I just went through the process of building the Spanish->English one, and it still needs to be rebuilt b/c I did it wrong, but it took over a day
* there is a configuration for Joshua, and so we need some way of passing that config into the Translator. Not sure of the best way to do this.
* Joshua isn't in the Central repository. I've started a discussion on the Joshua lists about this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/joshua_support/9Y04miboUj0

Anyhoo, I've got a working patch right now with hard code stuff, and a manual install into my Maven repo for brave souls out there that want to try it.


Diffs
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Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/diff/


Testing
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ran through on my locally built Spanish->English corpus built using http://joshua-decoder.org/data/fisher-callhome-corpus/
My dataset isn't perfect, but it can do basic translations. Also wrote a unit test, part of the patch.


Thanks,

Chris Mattmann


Re: Review Request 22761: Create a Tika Translator implementation that uses JoshuaDecoder

Posted by Lewis McGibbney <le...@apache.org>.
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./trunk/tika-translate/src/main/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslator.java
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    Chris, can you provide a sample configuration here? I am struggling to find what this should look like!


- Lewis McGibbney


On June 18, 2014, 10:04 p.m., Chris Mattmann wrote:
> 
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> This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
> https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/
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> 
> (Updated June 18, 2014, 10:04 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for tika.
> 
> 
> Bugs: tika-1343
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/tika-1343
> 
> 
> Repository: tika
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> The Joshua Decoder toolkit is a BSD licensed Java-based statistical machine translation system hosted at Github:
> 
> http://joshua-decoder.org/
> 
> Joshua takes in corpuses and trains models that can then be used to do language translation. Currently there is support for e.g., Spanisn->English, Indian dialects->English, Chinese->English, and a few others.
> 
> https://github.com/joshua-decoder/joshua/
> 
> It would be nice to build a Tika Translator on top of Joshua. There are of course several issues with this:
> 
> * the models are huge - so we'll need a separate package or Maven module, maybe tika-translate-joshua or something to release the models and we'll need to build the models. I just went through the process of building the Spanish->English one, and it still needs to be rebuilt b/c I did it wrong, but it took over a day
> * there is a configuration for Joshua, and so we need some way of passing that config into the Translator. Not sure of the best way to do this.
> * Joshua isn't in the Central repository. I've started a discussion on the Joshua lists about this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/joshua_support/9Y04miboUj0
> 
> Anyhoo, I've got a working patch right now with hard code stuff, and a manual install into my Maven repo for brave souls out there that want to try it.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/pom.xml 1603529 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/src/main/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslator.java PRE-CREATION 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/src/test/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslatorTest.java PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> ran through on my locally built Spanish->English corpus built using http://joshua-decoder.org/data/fisher-callhome-corpus/
> My dataset isn't perfect, but it can do basic translations. Also wrote a unit test, part of the patch.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris Mattmann
> 
>


Re: Review Request 22761: Create a Tika Translator implementation that uses JoshuaDecoder

Posted by Lewis McGibbney <le...@apache.org>.
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./trunk/tika-translate/pom.xml
<https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/#comment123860>

    Hi Chris did you just build this locally?


- Lewis McGibbney


On June 18, 2014, 10:04 p.m., Chris Mattmann wrote:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
> https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (Updated June 18, 2014, 10:04 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for tika.
> 
> 
> Bugs: tika-1343
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/tika-1343
> 
> 
> Repository: tika
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> The Joshua Decoder toolkit is a BSD licensed Java-based statistical machine translation system hosted at Github:
> 
> http://joshua-decoder.org/
> 
> Joshua takes in corpuses and trains models that can then be used to do language translation. Currently there is support for e.g., Spanisn->English, Indian dialects->English, Chinese->English, and a few others.
> 
> https://github.com/joshua-decoder/joshua/
> 
> It would be nice to build a Tika Translator on top of Joshua. There are of course several issues with this:
> 
> * the models are huge - so we'll need a separate package or Maven module, maybe tika-translate-joshua or something to release the models and we'll need to build the models. I just went through the process of building the Spanish->English one, and it still needs to be rebuilt b/c I did it wrong, but it took over a day
> * there is a configuration for Joshua, and so we need some way of passing that config into the Translator. Not sure of the best way to do this.
> * Joshua isn't in the Central repository. I've started a discussion on the Joshua lists about this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/joshua_support/9Y04miboUj0
> 
> Anyhoo, I've got a working patch right now with hard code stuff, and a manual install into my Maven repo for brave souls out there that want to try it.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/pom.xml 1603529 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/src/main/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslator.java PRE-CREATION 
>   ./trunk/tika-translate/src/test/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslatorTest.java PRE-CREATION 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> ran through on my locally built Spanish->English corpus built using http://joshua-decoder.org/data/fisher-callhome-corpus/
> My dataset isn't perfect, but it can do basic translations. Also wrote a unit test, part of the patch.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris Mattmann
> 
>


Re: Review Request 22761: Create a Tika Translator implementation that uses JoshuaDecoder

Posted by Chris Mattmann <ma...@apache.org>.
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This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/
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(Updated June 18, 2014, 10:04 p.m.)


Review request for tika.


Bugs: tika-1343
    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/tika-1343


Repository: tika


Description
-------

The Joshua Decoder toolkit is a BSD licensed Java-based statistical machine translation system hosted at Github:

http://joshua-decoder.org/

Joshua takes in corpuses and trains models that can then be used to do language translation. Currently there is support for e.g., Spanisn->English, Indian dialects->English, Chinese->English, and a few others.

https://github.com/joshua-decoder/joshua/

It would be nice to build a Tika Translator on top of Joshua. There are of course several issues with this:

* the models are huge - so we'll need a separate package or Maven module, maybe tika-translate-joshua or something to release the models and we'll need to build the models. I just went through the process of building the Spanish->English one, and it still needs to be rebuilt b/c I did it wrong, but it took over a day
* there is a configuration for Joshua, and so we need some way of passing that config into the Translator. Not sure of the best way to do this.
* Joshua isn't in the Central repository. I've started a discussion on the Joshua lists about this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/joshua_support/9Y04miboUj0

Anyhoo, I've got a working patch right now with hard code stuff, and a manual install into my Maven repo for brave souls out there that want to try it.


Diffs (updated)
-----

  ./trunk/tika-translate/pom.xml 1603529 
  ./trunk/tika-translate/src/main/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslator.java PRE-CREATION 
  ./trunk/tika-translate/src/test/java/org/apache/tika/language/translate/JoshuaTranslatorTest.java PRE-CREATION 

Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/22761/diff/


Testing
-------

ran through on my locally built Spanish->English corpus built using http://joshua-decoder.org/data/fisher-callhome-corpus/
My dataset isn't perfect, but it can do basic translations. Also wrote a unit test, part of the patch.


Thanks,

Chris Mattmann