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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by CHILUKA BHARATH <ch...@gmail.com> on 2023/07/12 09:08:23 UTC
Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
Hi Team,
The latest Apache Taglibs(
https://tomcat.apache.org/download-taglibs.cgi#Standard-1.2.5) jar classes
using javax.servlet.* packages.
Do we have any information w.r.t supporting Jakarta when using this
specific jar ?
If not, is there any plan to release new jars by migrating javax references
to jakarta in Apache Taglibs ?.
Thanks,
Bharath.
Re: Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Mark,
On 7/13/23 08:08, Mark Thomas wrote:
> 12 Jul 2023 11:08:23 CHILUKA BHARATH <ch...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> The latest Apache Taglibs(
>> https://tomcat.apache.org/download-taglibs.cgi#Standard-1.2.5) jar
>> classes
>> using javax.servlet.* packages.
>>
>> Do we have any information w.r.t supporting Jakarta when using this
>> specific jar ?
>>
>> If not, is there any plan to release new jars by migrating javax
>> references
>> to jakarta in Apache Taglibs ?.
>
> Just run them through the Tomcat migration tool for Jakarta EE. Tomcat
> 10 did that for the examples web application.
>
> No plans I am aware of for a new release.
While this will indeed work, I think it's reasonable for the Tomcat team
to produce an official release which supports Jakarta EE... but only if
it's a project that we really want to continue to support.
As Thomas points-out, Glassfish has their own JSTL implementation and I
think probably most people already use that.
Is it time to retire Tomcat JSTL? I think we should make a decision one
way or the other and then take proper action. That either means moving
Tomcat-taglibs to the Attic or producing a new version for the Jakarta
EE era.
There are far too many OSS projects out there saying "yeah Jakarta EE is
coming but nobody is using it yet so we won't bother to release a
compatible library until adoption is up." The the trick is that adoption
is slow precisely because all these dependencies won't move first.
-chris
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Re: Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
12 Jul 2023 11:08:23 CHILUKA BHARATH <ch...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Team,
>
> The latest Apache Taglibs(
> https://tomcat.apache.org/download-taglibs.cgi#Standard-1.2.5) jar
> classes
> using javax.servlet.* packages.
>
> Do we have any information w.r.t supporting Jakarta when using this
> specific jar ?
>
> If not, is there any plan to release new jars by migrating javax
> references
> to jakarta in Apache Taglibs ?.
Just run them through the Tomcat migration tool for Jakarta EE. Tomcat 10
did that for the examples web application.
No plans I am aware of for a new release.
Mark
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AW: Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
Posted by "Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH)" <Th...@speed4trade.com.INVALID>.
Hello Bharath,
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2023 21:51
> An: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>; CHILUKA BHARATH
> <ch...@gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
>
> Bharath,
>
> On 7/12/23 05:08, CHILUKA BHARATH wrote:
> > The latest Apache Taglibs(
> > https://tomcat.apache.org/download-taglibs.cgi#Standard-1.2.5) jar
> > classes using javax.servlet.* packages.
> >
> > Do we have any information w.r.t supporting Jakarta when using this
> > specific jar ?
> >
> > If not, is there any plan to release new jars by migrating javax
> > references to jakarta in Apache Taglibs ?.
>
> This is a very good question.
>
> From what I can tell, the latest release of taglibs (1.2.5) was released back in
> 2015.
>
> The first question I would have about this is: Does anybody still care about
> Tomcat STL? Obviously, _you_ care, but is this a project that has simply
> matured to the point that it no longer needs updates, or has it been
> abandoned? Olivier did some work back in 2020 -- including a migration from
> javax.* to jakarta.* -- but there hasn't been any meaningful activity since
> then.
>
> Bharath, are you able to check-out the "main" branch and build it, and does it
> work for you? We could simply release what we have currently as a beta and
> get community feedback. The only question is "what community?" We rarely
> get questions on the list and I'm not sure how many potential users there
> are.
>
> Is there a TCK for JSTL? I don't use JSP for any meaningful project myself, and
> setting-up test-cases to even validate that the basics are working properly
> will be time-consuming.
>
> -chris
>
This package uses jakarta:
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/jakarta.servlet.jsp.jstl/jakarta.servlet.jsp.jstl-api
The implementation is for example:
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.glassfish.web/jakarta.servlet.jsp.jstl
Greetings,
Thomas
Re: Update javax libs to Jakarta libs in Apache Taglibs.
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Bharath,
On 7/12/23 05:08, CHILUKA BHARATH wrote:
> The latest Apache Taglibs(
> https://tomcat.apache.org/download-taglibs.cgi#Standard-1.2.5) jar classes
> using javax.servlet.* packages.
>
> Do we have any information w.r.t supporting Jakarta when using this
> specific jar ?
>
> If not, is there any plan to release new jars by migrating javax references
> to jakarta in Apache Taglibs ?.
This is a very good question.
From what I can tell, the latest release of taglibs (1.2.5) was
released back in 2015.
The first question I would have about this is: Does anybody still care
about Tomcat STL? Obviously, _you_ care, but is this a project that has
simply matured to the point that it no longer needs updates, or has it
been abandoned? Olivier did some work back in 2020 -- including a
migration from javax.* to jakarta.* -- but there hasn't been any
meaningful activity since then.
Bharath, are you able to check-out the "main" branch and build it, and
does it work for you? We could simply release what we have currently as
a beta and get community feedback. The only question is "what
community?" We rarely get questions on the list and I'm not sure how
many potential users there are.
Is there a TCK for JSTL? I don't use JSP for any meaningful project
myself, and setting-up test-cases to even validate that the basics are
working properly will be time-consuming.
-chris
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