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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> on 2006/04/28 19:42:27 UTC
Simplify the welcome application
Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
-dain
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
I swear I had tried that before. But it worked this time. Thanx Paul.
Cheers
Prasad
On 4/28/06, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Prasad, I think you might want to deploy the war instead of the car.
> The command line would look something like:
> deploy.sh deploy applications/welcome/target/geronimo-welcome-*.war
> configs/welcome-jetty/target/plan/plan.xml
>
>
>
> On 4/28/06, Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's right. I'm looking at the 2nd part (acquiring samples).
> >
> > I am encountering an error when I try to deploy the welcome
> > configuration after I undeploy it. The error is:
> >
> > Error: Unable to distribute welcome-jetty-1.1-SNAPSHOT.car:
> > java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
> >
> > The stacktrace goes like this -
> > java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
> > at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ConfigurationStoreUtil.writeChecksumFor(ConfigurationStoreUtil.java:43)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ExecutableConfigurationUtil.writeConfiguration(ExecutableConfigurationUtil.java:156)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore.install(RepositoryConfigurationStore.java:319)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore$$FastClassByCGLIB$$968bf00c.invoke(<generated>)
> > at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:122)
> > at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:816)
> >
> > The welcome-jetty*.car being deployed is from the local repo and the
> > plan is from configs/welcome-jetty/target/plan/plan.xml. Would
> > appreciate any help in deploying the welcome app again.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Prasad
> >
> > On 4/28/06, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > > On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> > > > Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
> > > > shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
> > > > push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
> > >
> > > Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what should not?
> > >
> > > > Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
> > >
> > > Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
> > > mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
> > > sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
> > > here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
> > > XYZ" or whatever.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aaron
> > >
> >
>
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Prasad, I think you might want to deploy the war instead of the car.
The command line would look something like:
deploy.sh deploy applications/welcome/target/geronimo-welcome-*.war
configs/welcome-jetty/target/plan/plan.xml
On 4/28/06, Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's right. I'm looking at the 2nd part (acquiring samples).
>
> I am encountering an error when I try to deploy the welcome
> configuration after I undeploy it. The error is:
>
> Error: Unable to distribute welcome-jetty-1.1-SNAPSHOT.car:
> java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
>
> The stacktrace goes like this -
> java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
> at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ConfigurationStoreUtil.writeChecksumFor(ConfigurationStoreUtil.java:43)
> at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ExecutableConfigurationUtil.writeConfiguration(ExecutableConfigurationUtil.java:156)
> at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore.install(RepositoryConfigurationStore.java:319)
> at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore$$FastClassByCGLIB$$968bf00c.invoke(<generated>)
> at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
> at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
> at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:122)
> at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:816)
>
> The welcome-jetty*.car being deployed is from the local repo and the
> plan is from configs/welcome-jetty/target/plan/plan.xml. Would
> appreciate any help in deploying the welcome app again.
>
> Cheers
> Prasad
>
> On 4/28/06, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> > > Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
> > > shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
> > > push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
> >
> > Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what should not?
> >
> > > Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
> >
> > Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
> > mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
> > sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
> > here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
> > XYZ" or whatever.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> >
>
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
That's right. I'm looking at the 2nd part (acquiring samples).
I am encountering an error when I try to deploy the welcome
configuration after I undeploy it. The error is:
Error: Unable to distribute welcome-jetty-1.1-SNAPSHOT.car:
java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
The stacktrace goes like this -
java.io.IOException: Sum file already exists
at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ConfigurationStoreUtil.writeChecksumFor(ConfigurationStoreUtil.java:43)
at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.ExecutableConfigurationUtil.writeConfiguration(ExecutableConfigurationUtil.java:156)
at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore.install(RepositoryConfigurationStore.java:319)
at org.apache.geronimo.system.configuration.RepositoryConfigurationStore$$FastClassByCGLIB$$968bf00c.invoke(<generated>)
at net.sf.cglib.reflect.FastMethod.invoke(FastMethod.java:53)
at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.FastMethodInvoker.invoke(FastMethodInvoker.java:38)
at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanOperation.invoke(GBeanOperation.java:122)
at org.apache.geronimo.gbean.runtime.GBeanInstance.invoke(GBeanInstance.java:816)
The welcome-jetty*.car being deployed is from the local repo and the
plan is from configs/welcome-jetty/target/plan/plan.xml. Would
appreciate any help in deploying the welcome app again.
Cheers
Prasad
On 4/28/06, Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> > Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
> > shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
> > push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
>
> Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what should not?
>
> > Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
>
> Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
> mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
> sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
> here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
> XYZ" or whatever.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1900
For the above JIRA, it involves changing the the links for the samples
on the welcome page to contain parameters for the sample's configId.
Eg: http://localhost:8080/serveSamples?sampleConfigId=geronimo/servlet-examples-jetty/1.1-SNAPSHOT/car
Now the configId is different for tomcat and jetty but the index.jsp
in the welcome app which carries the above link is the common.
How should we proceed with packaging a different index.jsp in the
welcome app of the different binaries ?
Cheers
Prasad
On 4/28/06, Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Aaron Mulder wrote:
> > On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> >> Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
> >> shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
> >> push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
> >
> > Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what
> > should not?
> >
>
> It does seem like a lot of information for the initial welcome page.
> This will likely be the first page users hit to see if their
> installation is successful. We should keep it real simple with
> additional inks for more info..
>
> I think we should create links for:
>
> "Would you like your application to appear at this URL?" and
> "Would you like a slimmer Geronimo installation?"
>
> And move the details to separate pages.
>
>
> >> Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
> >
> > Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
> > mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
> > sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
> > here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
> > XYZ" or whatever.
> >
> I think the idea of web-based repository of plugins for geronimo is
> really cool and will benefit the project. From the perspective of
> samples, the web-based plugin repository can provide an easy way to
> organize and quickly install samples.
>
> However, I'm wondering if the plugin repository is really the best fit
> for quickly showcasing a few simple examples (e.g. servlets-examples).
>
> A typical first time user will install geronimo, go to the welcome page
> and probably follow a few of the links to the samples. In G1.0 it all
> merely works. In G1.1, the user will need to navigate several panels
> (e.g. Would you like to install samples, provide id/pw for console, get
> plugins from remote repo, start sample). I know we could probably
> suppress some of these panels, though the user will still likely need to
> make a few decisions about things they might not yet understand. Also
> they are dependent on network connectivity as well as remote server
> availability.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think the plugin technology is a great idea and
> quite useful. I'm just wondering if we should continue to pre-populate
> the G binary image with 1 or 2 simple samples that just merely work for
> first time users..
>
> Thanks
> -Dave-
>
>
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> >
> >
>
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net>.
Aaron Mulder wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
>> Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
>> shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
>> push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
>
> Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what
> should not?
>
It does seem like a lot of information for the initial welcome page.
This will likely be the first page users hit to see if their
installation is successful. We should keep it real simple with
additional inks for more info..
I think we should create links for:
"Would you like your application to appear at this URL?" and
"Would you like a slimmer Geronimo installation?"
And move the details to separate pages.
>> Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
>
> Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
> mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
> sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
> here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
> XYZ" or whatever.
>
I think the idea of web-based repository of plugins for geronimo is
really cool and will benefit the project. From the perspective of
samples, the web-based plugin repository can provide an easy way to
organize and quickly install samples.
However, I'm wondering if the plugin repository is really the best fit
for quickly showcasing a few simple examples (e.g. servlets-examples).
A typical first time user will install geronimo, go to the welcome page
and probably follow a few of the links to the samples. In G1.0 it all
merely works. In G1.1, the user will need to navigate several panels
(e.g. Would you like to install samples, provide id/pw for console, get
plugins from remote repo, start sample). I know we could probably
suppress some of these panels, though the user will still likely need to
make a few decisions about things they might not yet understand. Also
they are dependent on network connectivity as well as remote server
availability.
Don't get me wrong, I think the plugin technology is a great idea and
quite useful. I'm just wondering if we should continue to pre-populate
the G binary image with 1 or 2 simple samples that just merely work for
first time users..
Thanks
-Dave-
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
>
Re: Simplify the welcome application
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
On 4/28/06, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> Can we simplify the welcome application for the server? I find the
> shear amount of text on the page overwhelming. I'm hoping we can
> push the fine detail of to secondary pages.
Do you have a proposal for what should go on the front page and what should not?
> Also, what is the strategy for easily acquiring the samples?
Someone was looking at that -- maybe pkashyap, I forget. It was
mentioned on IRC yesterday. The deal is if you click a link to a
sample that's not installed, it will explain and have a link to "click
here to go to the plugin download page where you can install sample
XYZ" or whatever.
Thanks,
Aaron