Joining CHAOSS

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi All

A quick email to let you know that I've signed up to the CHAOSS mailing list which I've been told is how you join CHAOSS! They also hold various conference calls so will take a look at those to see what could be relevant to Kibble.

I've mentioned to them that I see two levels of involvement, one is providing input into the definition of metrics for community health (and  I suppose this could also linked to community development), and the second is related to the development of Kibble itself as a software tool. Essentially we would want to ensure Kibble is in line with any standards that CHAOSS might define, so being involved we get to know about these and can provide input.

I'll try to bring back any relevant topics back to this list. And if anyone else wants to sign up to CHAOSS too then please feel free. 

Thanks
Sharan

Re: Joining CHAOSS

[Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>]

Thx... I was just thinking about how we could grow the user community
and what the associated costs might be.

> On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:03 AM, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 08/09/2018 12:41 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I am curious, what are the direct and indirect costs in running Kibble as a service?
> 
> Well, depends on the scope.
> 
> If we look at just the direct costs and discount humans, the breakdown for the demo we run is as follows (this is all donated btw):
> - demo instance, hardware: €45/mo
> - text analysis services: €175/mo
> - bandwidth: €5/mo
> total: €225/mo.
> 
> The demo covers roughly 1/15th of the entire ASF (400 resource objects in our demo vs 6,000 estimated total public resource objects). If we were to extend it to cover the entire foundation, I would estimate somewhere around €1500+/mo, again not counting humans. Depending on how many features you need in the demo and the specific distribution of resources, the price could go up or down a fair bit - and then you have to factor in someone managing the stuff.
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
>> Anyone have any ballpark figures?
>>> On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> A quick email to let you know that I've signed up to the CHAOSS mailing list which I've been told is how you join CHAOSS! They also hold various conference calls so will take a look at those to see what could be relevant to Kibble.
>>> 
>>> I've mentioned to them that I see two levels of involvement, one is providing input into the definition of metrics for community health (and  I suppose this could also linked to community development), and the second is related to the development of Kibble itself as a software tool. Essentially we would want to ensure Kibble is in line with any standards that CHAOSS might define, so being involved we get to know about these and can provide input.
>>> 
>>> I'll try to bring back any relevant topics back to this list. And if anyone else wants to sign up to CHAOSS too then please feel free.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
> 

Re: Joining CHAOSS

[Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>]

On 08/09/2018 12:41 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I am curious, what are the direct and indirect costs in running Kibble as a service?

Well, depends on the scope.

If we look at just the direct costs and discount humans, the breakdown 
for the demo we run is as follows (this is all donated btw):
- demo instance, hardware: €45/mo
- text analysis services: €175/mo
- bandwidth: €5/mo
total: €225/mo.

The demo covers roughly 1/15th of the entire ASF (400 resource objects 
in our demo vs 6,000 estimated total public resource objects). If we 
were to extend it to cover the entire foundation, I would estimate 
somewhere around €1500+/mo, again not counting humans. Depending on how 
many features you need in the demo and the specific distribution of 
resources, the price could go up or down a fair bit - and then you have 
to factor in someone managing the stuff.

With regards,
Daniel.

> Anyone have any ballpark figures?
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> A quick email to let you know that I've signed up to the CHAOSS mailing list which I've been told is how you join CHAOSS! They also hold various conference calls so will take a look at those to see what could be relevant to Kibble.
>>
>> I've mentioned to them that I see two levels of involvement, one is providing input into the definition of metrics for community health (and  I suppose this could also linked to community development), and the second is related to the development of Kibble itself as a software tool. Essentially we would want to ensure Kibble is in line with any standards that CHAOSS might define, so being involved we get to know about these and can provide input.
>>
>> I'll try to bring back any relevant topics back to this list. And if anyone else wants to sign up to CHAOSS too then please feel free.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sharan
> 

Re: Joining CHAOSS

[Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>]

I am curious, what are the direct and indirect costs in running Kibble as a service?
Anyone have any ballpark figures?

> On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> A quick email to let you know that I've signed up to the CHAOSS mailing list which I've been told is how you join CHAOSS! They also hold various conference calls so will take a look at those to see what could be relevant to Kibble.
> 
> I've mentioned to them that I see two levels of involvement, one is providing input into the definition of metrics for community health (and  I suppose this could also linked to community development), and the second is related to the development of Kibble itself as a software tool. Essentially we would want to ensure Kibble is in line with any standards that CHAOSS might define, so being involved we get to know about these and can provide input.
> 
> I'll try to bring back any relevant topics back to this list. And if anyone else wants to sign up to CHAOSS too then please feel free. 
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan