Hadoop

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

Options:

1. Email to their private@ list.
2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
try to persuade them.

Opinions?

Re: Hadoop

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

As a foundation member, I find this embarrassing. Give me 24 hours, and then
go ahead.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Drew Farris <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Deploying it ourselves seems to be, by far, the most expedient
> solution. I wonder if the HBASE guys could/would use that too?
>
> Yet another alternative would be to figure out how, given a source
> tree of 0.20.2, to deploy a working artifact from it and post these
> instructions to the JIRA issue in the hopes that some soul from the
> hadoop project would follow them. I've messed around to this end
> briefly, but wasn't able to wrap it up between planes, trains,
> automobiles, children and thick stacks of forms that are begging to be
> completed.
>
> I have discovered that, 'ant -p' at the top level the hadoop sources
> reveals that there's a target that generates a maven pom file, running
> it once produced an error for me and running it a second time produced
> a pom that seemed inadequate and included the incorrect version
> number. Apparently this is some sort of ivy generated file instead of
> being a 'filled in' version of the pom template present in the source
> tree under the ivy directory.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "What is, 'what do we do about Hadoop 0.20.2 not being in Maven yet'?
> > I'll take Potpourri for $400, Alex."
> >
> > I think Drew should just commit his copy of 0.20.2 under the Mahout
> > group ID and be done with it.
> >
> > 2010/3/9 Gérard Dupont <ge...@gmail.com>:
> >> What was the question ?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 13:13, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Options:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
> >>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
> >>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this
> and
> >>> try to persuade them.
> >>>
> >>> Opinions?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gérard Dupont
> >> Information Processing Control and Cognition (IPCC) - EADS DS
> >> http://forge.ow2.org/projects/weblab/
> >>
> >> Document & Learning team - LITIS Laboratory
> >>
> >
>

Re: Hadoop

[Drew Farris <dr...@gmail.com>]

Just wanted to add that the goal of the process described below is to
automatically generate a pom suitable for deployment from the hadoop
source tree. I know that's not possible without at least a minimal
patch that fixes the jetty dependency where the groupId and artifactId
are transposed.

The alternative is to manually craft a pom from hadoop's provided
template, which is essentially what we would do if we deployed it
ourselves.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Drew Farris <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yet another alternative would be to figure out how, given a source
> tree of 0.20.2, to deploy a working artifact from it and post these
> instructions to the JIRA issue in the hopes that some soul from the
> hadoop project would follow them. I've messed around to this end
> briefly, but wasn't able to wrap it up between planes, trains,
> automobiles, children and thick stacks of forms that are begging to be
> completed.
>
> I have discovered that, 'ant -p' at the top level the hadoop sources
> reveals that there's a target that generates a maven pom file, running
> it once produced an error for me and running it a second time produced
> a pom that seemed inadequate and included the incorrect version
> number. Apparently this is some sort of ivy generated file instead of
> being a 'filled in' version of the pom template present in the source
> tree under the ivy directory.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "What is, 'what do we do about Hadoop 0.20.2 not being in Maven yet'?
>> I'll take Potpourri for $400, Alex."
>>
>> I think Drew should just commit his copy of 0.20.2 under the Mahout
>> group ID and be done with it.
>>
>> 2010/3/9 Gérard Dupont <ge...@gmail.com>:
>>> What was the question ?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 13:13, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Options:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
>>>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
>>>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
>>>> try to persuade them.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gérard Dupont
>>> Information Processing Control and Cognition (IPCC) - EADS DS
>>> http://forge.ow2.org/projects/weblab/
>>>
>>> Document & Learning team - LITIS Laboratory
>>>
>>
>

Re: Hadoop

[Drew Farris <dr...@gmail.com>]

Deploying it ourselves seems to be, by far, the most expedient
solution. I wonder if the HBASE guys could/would use that too?

Yet another alternative would be to figure out how, given a source
tree of 0.20.2, to deploy a working artifact from it and post these
instructions to the JIRA issue in the hopes that some soul from the
hadoop project would follow them. I've messed around to this end
briefly, but wasn't able to wrap it up between planes, trains,
automobiles, children and thick stacks of forms that are begging to be
completed.

I have discovered that, 'ant -p' at the top level the hadoop sources
reveals that there's a target that generates a maven pom file, running
it once produced an error for me and running it a second time produced
a pom that seemed inadequate and included the incorrect version
number. Apparently this is some sort of ivy generated file instead of
being a 'filled in' version of the pom template present in the source
tree under the ivy directory.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "What is, 'what do we do about Hadoop 0.20.2 not being in Maven yet'?
> I'll take Potpourri for $400, Alex."
>
> I think Drew should just commit his copy of 0.20.2 under the Mahout
> group ID and be done with it.
>
> 2010/3/9 Gérard Dupont <ge...@gmail.com>:
>> What was the question ?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 13:13, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Options:
>>>
>>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
>>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
>>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
>>> try to persuade them.
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gérard Dupont
>> Information Processing Control and Cognition (IPCC) - EADS DS
>> http://forge.ow2.org/projects/weblab/
>>
>> Document & Learning team - LITIS Laboratory
>>
>

Re: Hadoop

[Sean Owen <sr...@gmail.com>]

"What is, 'what do we do about Hadoop 0.20.2 not being in Maven yet'?
I'll take Potpourri for $400, Alex."

I think Drew should just commit his copy of 0.20.2 under the Mahout
group ID and be done with it.

2010/3/9 Gérard Dupont <ge...@gmail.com>:
> What was the question ?
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 13:13, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Options:
>>
>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
>> try to persuade them.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gérard Dupont
> Information Processing Control and Cognition (IPCC) - EADS DS
> http://forge.ow2.org/projects/weblab/
>
> Document & Learning team - LITIS Laboratory
>

Re: Hadoop

[Gérard Dupont <ge...@gmail.com>]

What was the question ?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 13:13, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Options:
>
> 1. Email to their private@ list.
> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
> try to persuade them.
>
> Opinions?
>



-- 
Gérard Dupont
Information Processing Control and Cognition (IPCC) - EADS DS
http://forge.ow2.org/projects/weblab/

Document & Learning team - LITIS Laboratory

Re: Hadoop

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

Latest message, including a seemingly broken link ...

It is slowly working through the system. Trunk can push to Maven, but the
0.20 branch can't yet.

The latest relevant thread is here: http://bit.ly/bHi8oj

This discussion is of course better done on general than private.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> And I'm following up to see if there isn't a patch I could make that would
> make this easier for them.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Very cool.  Given they use the repository.apache.org it shouldn't
>> actually be that hard to promote it.
>>
>> -Grant
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> > I just got email from Doug Cutting. He is going to take care of it for
>> us.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Options:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
>> >>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
>> >>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this
>> >> and
>> >>> try to persuade them.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Publish it ourselves.  If their community doesn't feel it is
>> important,
>> >> than it shouldn't stop us.
>> >>
>> >> +1 on #4.  We did it last release, let's do it again and then just keep
>> >> raising the issue w/ Hadoop.  It's nearly trivial for us to do so.
>> >>
>> >> -Grant
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Hadoop

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

And I'm following up to see if there isn't a patch I could make that would
make this easier for them.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:

> Very cool.  Given they use the repository.apache.org it shouldn't actually
> be that hard to promote it.
>
> -Grant
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
> > I just got email from Doug Cutting. He is going to take care of it for
> us.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>
> >>> Options:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
> >>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
> >>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this
> >> and
> >>> try to persuade them.
> >>
> >> 4. Publish it ourselves.  If their community doesn't feel it is
> important,
> >> than it shouldn't stop us.
> >>
> >> +1 on #4.  We did it last release, let's do it again and then just keep
> >> raising the issue w/ Hadoop.  It's nearly trivial for us to do so.
> >>
> >> -Grant
>
>
>

Re: Hadoop

[Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>]

Very cool.  Given they use the repository.apache.org it shouldn't actually be that hard to promote it.

-Grant

On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> I just got email from Doug Cutting. He is going to take care of it for us.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> 
>>> Options:
>>> 
>>> 1. Email to their private@ list.
>>> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
>>> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this
>> and
>>> try to persuade them.
>> 
>> 4. Publish it ourselves.  If their community doesn't feel it is important,
>> than it shouldn't stop us.
>> 
>> +1 on #4.  We did it last release, let's do it again and then just keep
>> raising the issue w/ Hadoop.  It's nearly trivial for us to do so.
>> 
>> -Grant

Re: Hadoop

[Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>]

I just got email from Doug Cutting. He is going to take care of it for us.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
> > Options:
> >
> > 1. Email to their private@ list.
> > 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
> > 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this
> and
> > try to persuade them.
>
> 4. Publish it ourselves.  If their community doesn't feel it is important,
> than it shouldn't stop us.
>
> +1 on #4.  We did it last release, let's do it again and then just keep
> raising the issue w/ Hadoop.  It's nearly trivial for us to do so.
>
> -Grant

Re: Hadoop

[Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>]

On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> Options:
> 
> 1. Email to their private@ list.
> 2. Email to members@ seeking assistance.
> 3. Sleuthing their archive to see who was the release manager for this and
> try to persuade them.

4. Publish it ourselves.  If their community doesn't feel it is important, than it shouldn't stop us.  

+1 on #4.  We did it last release, let's do it again and then just keep raising the issue w/ Hadoop.  It's nearly trivial for us to do so.

-Grant