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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1685) Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default

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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1685:
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bq. Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default

+1!

bq. I think it makes sense as the default in Solr as well, and I mentioned that back when it was put in, but alas, its an option there as well.

+1

bq. It has never been listed in a changes entry and its not in LIA 1, so you pretty much have to stumble upon it, and figure out what its for.

And... in working on LIA2, I had to ask for help on how to use it ;)

Consumability is important.

Can we do this for 2.9?

I think not being buggy by default (w/ PhraseQuery, eg) is far more important that a small loss in performance.  Performance is secondary to correctness.

> Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-1685
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1685
>             Project: Lucene - Java
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Mark Miller
>            Assignee: Mark Miller
>            Priority: Minor
>
> I've always thought this made sense, but frankly, it took me a year to get the SpanScorer included with Lucene at all, so I was pretty much ready to move on after I it got in, rather than push for it as a default.
> I think it makes sense as the default in Solr as well, and I mentioned that back when it was put in, but alas, its an option there as well.
> The Highlighter package has no back compat req, but custom has been conservative - one reason I havn't pushed for this change before. Might be best to actually make the switch in 3? I could go either way - as is, I know a bunch of people use it, but I'm betting its the large minority. It has never been listed in a changes entry and its not in LIA 1, so you pretty much have to stumble upon it, and figure out what its for.
> I'll point out again that its just as fast as the standard scorer for any clause of a query that is not position sensitive. Position sensitive query clauses will obviously be somewhat slower to highlight, but that is because they will be highlighted correctly rather than ignoring position.

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Re: [jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1685) Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default

Posted by Mark Harwood <ma...@yahoo.co.uk>.
+1


On 11 Jun 2009, at 21:32, Michael McCandless (JIRA) wrote:

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> Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1685:
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> bq. Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default
>
> +1!
>
> bq. I think it makes sense as the default in Solr as well, and I  
> mentioned that back when it was put in, but alas, its an option  
> there as well.
>
> +1
>
> bq. It has never been listed in a changes entry and its not in LIA  
> 1, so you pretty much have to stumble upon it, and figure out what  
> its for.
>
> And... in working on LIA2, I had to ask for help on how to use it ;)
>
> Consumability is important.
>
> Can we do this for 2.9?
>
> I think not being buggy by default (w/ PhraseQuery, eg) is far more  
> important that a small loss in performance.  Performance is  
> secondary to correctness.
>
>> Make the Highlighter use SpanScorer by default
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>>                Key: LUCENE-1685
>>                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1685
>>            Project: Lucene - Java
>>         Issue Type: Improvement
>>           Reporter: Mark Miller
>>           Assignee: Mark Miller
>>           Priority: Minor
>>
>> I've always thought this made sense, but frankly, it took me a year  
>> to get the SpanScorer included with Lucene at all, so I was pretty  
>> much ready to move on after I it got in, rather than push for it as  
>> a default.
>> I think it makes sense as the default in Solr as well, and I  
>> mentioned that back when it was put in, but alas, its an option  
>> there as well.
>> The Highlighter package has no back compat req, but custom has been  
>> conservative - one reason I havn't pushed for this change before.  
>> Might be best to actually make the switch in 3? I could go either  
>> way - as is, I know a bunch of people use it, but I'm betting its  
>> the large minority. It has never been listed in a changes entry and  
>> its not in LIA 1, so you pretty much have to stumble upon it, and  
>> figure out what its for.
>> I'll point out again that its just as fast as the standard scorer  
>> for any clause of a query that is not position sensitive. Position  
>> sensitive query clauses will obviously be somewhat slower to  
>> highlight, but that is because they will be highlighted correctly  
>> rather than ignoring position.
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