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Posted to dev@quickstep.apache.org by Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> on 2016/05/31 17:07:17 UTC
Update on the Quickstep project
Quick update on the Quickstep project:
We are now transitioned to ASF. So, no new commits should go to the old repo. The workflow for committers is at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUICKSTEP/Workflow+For+Committers <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUICKSTEP/Workflow+For+Committers>. Big thanks to Zuyu for taking the lead on this.
Important question for this group: Does any one know how to find out if a committer on a Quickstep PR has filled up the Apache ICLA? The list at http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html <http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html> does not work. For example, I’m not on it and I know I filed the ICLA a long time ago. I think that list does not reflect incubator projects. Clearly this is important for anyone that is closing a PR.
Cheers,
Jignesh
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Thanks Zuyu! I wasn’t there about a while ago, so good to see that it is listed there.
>
> I see Siddharth Suresh, Navneet Potti and Craig Chasseur are missing.
> I believe they have signed the ICLA. Others may be missing too — haven’t done a full check.
>
> I wonder if they have misses a step that I should remind them of.
It could be the case that they didn't include the desired ASF ID on the form.
The best way to track it is tracking traffic on quickstep-private@
since all ICLA
ACKs are sent there as well. In particular, looking for Craig yields
the ask from
ASF secretary to resubmit since the signature was missing.
In general, you all should be able to access the archives:
https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/quickstep-private/
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Zuyu Zhang <zz...@pivotal.io>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> I see Siddharth Suresh, Navneet Potti and Craig Chasseur are missing. I
> believe they have signed the ICLA.
>
Both Sid and Navneet are in the contributor list:
http://people.apache.org/unlistedclas.html
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io>.
Thanks Zuyu! I wasn’t there about a while ago, so good to see that it is listed there.
I see Siddharth Suresh, Navneet Potti and Craig Chasseur are missing. I believe they have signed the ICLA. Others may be missing too — haven’t done a full check.
I wonder if they have misses a step that I should remind them of.
Cheers,
Jignesh
> On May 31, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Zuyu Zhang <zz...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> Hi Jignesh,
>
> I could find your name in the list:
>
> http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#P
>
> Cheers,
> Zuyu
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Zuyu Zhang <zz...@pivotal.io>.
Hi Jignesh,
I could find your name in the list:
http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#P
Cheers,
Zuyu
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io>.
Great tip Roman! I’ll work on a similar page for us over the next week.
Cheers,
Jignesh
> On May 31, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> I’m guessing that someone closing a PR should check if the committer has an ICLA.
>> Or, is submitting a PR and implicit assignment by the code contributor that they are
>> willing to donate the code to Apache?
>
> The safest bet here is an ASF JIRA workflow where the intent is
> tracked. Spark guys
> have mastered it pretty well:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark#ContributingtoSpark-ContributingCodeChanges
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is already a definitive answer: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156>
It is a good answer, but strictly speaking Mark wasn't VP of Legal at
ASF at that point,
so I don't think the answer will qualify as an 'authorative' but it is
definitely
'definitive' ;-)
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
There is already a definitive answer: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156>
But I agree with you, Spark’s process is a good one for Quickstep to adopt.
Julian
> On May 31, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Roman,
>>
>> Requiring the contributor to log a JIRA makes a lot of sense, and a lot of projects do that.
>> But from an IP hygiene standpoint, my understanding is that it is sufficient that the contributor
>> has created a github pull request to a project under https://github.com/apache. Just like
>> attaching a patch to an Apache JIRA, that demonstrates intent to contribute. Is my understanding correct?
>
> Let me put it this way: I don't think a pure GH workflow will be OK by ASF:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-249
>
> But! Once we consider GH notifications being pushed to our mailing
> lists it becomes
> a gray area in my view. One way to resolve it is to push the issue via
> ASF's VP of Legal
> for an authoritative answer (see one of my last comments on the above JIRA).
>
> What I'm suggesting here is, in a way, a cop out, but a productive one ;-)
>
> IOW, if what Spark folks have come up with jives well with Quickstep community
> lets just adopt that approach and move on without being a poster child community
> to go resolve it with ASF's VP of Legal.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> P.S. Sorry I couldn't give you a 100% iron clad answer.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Roman,
>
> Requiring the contributor to log a JIRA makes a lot of sense, and a lot of projects do that.
> But from an IP hygiene standpoint, my understanding is that it is sufficient that the contributor
> has created a github pull request to a project under https://github.com/apache. Just like
> attaching a patch to an Apache JIRA, that demonstrates intent to contribute. Is my understanding correct?
Let me put it this way: I don't think a pure GH workflow will be OK by ASF:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-249
But! Once we consider GH notifications being pushed to our mailing
lists it becomes
a gray area in my view. One way to resolve it is to push the issue via
ASF's VP of Legal
for an authoritative answer (see one of my last comments on the above JIRA).
What I'm suggesting here is, in a way, a cop out, but a productive one ;-)
IOW, if what Spark folks have come up with jives well with Quickstep community
lets just adopt that approach and move on without being a poster child community
to go resolve it with ASF's VP of Legal.
Thanks,
Roman.
P.S. Sorry I couldn't give you a 100% iron clad answer.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Roman,
Requiring the contributor to log a JIRA makes a lot of sense, and a lot of projects do that. But from an IP hygiene standpoint, my understanding is that it is sufficient that the contributor has created a github pull request to a project under https://github.com/apache. Just like attaching a patch to an Apache JIRA, that demonstrates intent to contribute. Is my understanding correct?
Julian
> On May 31, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> I’m guessing that someone closing a PR should check if the committer has an ICLA.
>> Or, is submitting a PR and implicit assignment by the code contributor that they are
>> willing to donate the code to Apache?
>
> The safest bet here is an ASF JIRA workflow where the intent is
> tracked. Spark guys
> have mastered it pretty well:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark#ContributingtoSpark-ContributingCodeChanges
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> I’m guessing that someone closing a PR should check if the committer has an ICLA.
> Or, is submitting a PR and implicit assignment by the code contributor that they are
> willing to donate the code to Apache?
The safest bet here is an ASF JIRA workflow where the intent is
tracked. Spark guys
have mastered it pretty well:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark#ContributingtoSpark-ContributingCodeChanges
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io>.
Hi Roman,
I’m guessing that someone closing a PR should check if the committer has an ICLA. Or, is submitting a PR and implicit assignment by the code contributor that they are willing to donate the code to Apache?
Cheers,
Jignesh
> On May 31, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Clearly this is important for anyone that is closing a PR.
>
> Can you please elaborate?
Re: Update on the Quickstep project
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Jignesh Patel <ji...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> Quick update on the Quickstep project:
>
> We are now transitioned to ASF. So, no new commits should go to the old repo.
> The workflow for committers is at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUICKSTEP/Workflow+For+Committers
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/QUICKSTEP/Workflow+For+Committers>.
> Big thanks to Zuyu for taking the lead on this.
Awesome progress! And also, this would be a great addition to our June
Incubator report.
> Important question for this group: Does any one know how to find out if a committer on a Quickstep
> PR has filled up the Apache ICLA?
That's pretty easy -- ICLA means existence of ASF ID. You can look it up here:
http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html
> The list at http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html <http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html> does not work.
> For example, I’m not on it and I know I filed the ICLA a long time ago. I think that list does not reflect incubator projects.
It most certainly does. In fact, I can clearly see your name there:
$ curl -s http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html | grep Jignesh
<tr><td id='jignesh'>jignesh</td><td>Jignesh Patel</td><td><a
href='phonebook.html?unix=incubator'>incubator</a></td></tr>
> Clearly this is important for anyone that is closing a PR.
Can you please elaborate?
Thanks,
Roman.