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SD Depot for HP-UX
Hi,
I would like to build a SD Depot of Subversion for HP-UX. Does
anybody know if there is already a depot around somehwere?
How do I find out the complete list of files that "make install"
installs on my system? Is there probably a tool around that is able
to create a list of all the files by parsing the Makefiles?
Timo
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de>.
Thank you. Sometimes it the easy things that help.
Timo
Am 17.04.2006 um 14:41 schrieb David Everly:
> Typically, when packaging software, one uses a "staging" area. For
> modern autoconf/automake/libtool build processes, this can typically
> be done as follows:
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install DESTDIR=/path/to/staging/area
>
> The contents of /path/to/staging/area is what you can build your
> package from (of course, the contents may change based on the options
> passed to ./configure).
>
> On 4/17/06, Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to build a SD Depot of Subversion for HP-UX. Does
>> anybody know if there is already a depot around somehwere?
>> How do I find out the complete list of files that "make install"
>> installs on my system? Is there probably a tool around that is able
>> to create a list of all the files by parsing the Makefiles?
>>
>> Timo
>>
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de>.
Hi,
I suppose that this was, what I was missing:
> LDFLAGS="-L/opt/vzb/lib -L/home/deverly/svn-tmp/opt/vzb/lib"
That was the reason why it was only looking in /usr/local/... I will
try this out tomorrow.
Is there some howto or book about all these little tricks?
Timo
Am 18.04.2006 um 18:45 schrieb David Everly:
> Hmmm....here is exactly what I do on HP-UX B.11.23 U ia64 HP-UX, and
> it worked fine for me (of course I previously compiled/installed
> apache2 httpd under /opt/vzb using similar options):
>
> +++
>
> PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/opt/vzb/bin:/opt/vzb/sbin
>
> ./configure \
> --with-ssl \
> --prefix=/opt/vzb \
> --with-apr=/opt/vzb/bin/apr-config \
> --with-apr-util=/opt/vzb/bin/apu-config \
> --with-apxs=/opt/vzb/sbin/apxs \
> --without-berkeley-db \
> CC=/usr/bin/cc \
> CFLAGS="+DD64" \
> CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/vzb/include" \
> LDFLAGS="-L/opt/vzb/lib -L/home/deverly/svn-tmp/opt/vzb/lib"
>
> make
> make install DESTDIR=/home/deverly/svn-tmp
>
> +++
>
> Of course everything inside /home/deverly/svn-tmp must be installed
> starting from / in the resulting depot package.
>
> This all works for me.
>
> On 4/18/06, Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried the trick using DESTDIR, but it doesn't really work on HP-UX.
>> It still tries to find certain libraries in /usr/local/... during
>> make install. The problem seems to be that HP-UX doesn't support
>> libraries that move. There it does the linking during "make install"
>> instead of during make. I tried the --disable-shared option to see if
>> that helps, but it has problems with the Apache modules then. The
>> modules don't like to be linked with --disbable.shared. Where in the
>> Makefile could I enable shared for mod_dav_svn explicitly? Ot is
>> there some sort of option for configure to use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 18.04.2006 um 07:40 schrieb Timo Wendt:
>>
>>> Thank you very much for all your help. I will just try it out. I
>>> don't need the Apache modules on all hosts. I am fine with just
>>> having them on one host which has the central repository.
>>>
>>> Timo
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 17.04.2006 um 23:13 schrieb René Berber:
>>>
>>>> Max Bowsher wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to
>>>>>>> install the Apache
>>>>>>> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are
>>>>>>> copied to
>>>>>>> wherever Apache has its modules
>>>>>
>>>>> The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
>>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect? Where does apsx use DESTDIR?
>>>>
>>>> To be precise, I know svn 1.3.0 install used apsx and that in turn
>>>> installed the
>>>> modules outside DESTDIR; it may have changed in 1.3.1 .
>>>>
>>>>>>> and httpd.conf is also changed).
>>>>>
>>>>> This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-
>>>>> activation flag
>>>>> to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by David Everly <de...@gmail.com>.
Hmmm....here is exactly what I do on HP-UX B.11.23 U ia64 HP-UX, and
it worked fine for me (of course I previously compiled/installed
apache2 httpd under /opt/vzb using similar options):
+++
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/opt/vzb/bin:/opt/vzb/sbin
./configure \
--with-ssl \
--prefix=/opt/vzb \
--with-apr=/opt/vzb/bin/apr-config \
--with-apr-util=/opt/vzb/bin/apu-config \
--with-apxs=/opt/vzb/sbin/apxs \
--without-berkeley-db \
CC=/usr/bin/cc \
CFLAGS="+DD64" \
CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/vzb/include" \
LDFLAGS="-L/opt/vzb/lib -L/home/deverly/svn-tmp/opt/vzb/lib"
make
make install DESTDIR=/home/deverly/svn-tmp
+++
Of course everything inside /home/deverly/svn-tmp must be installed
starting from / in the resulting depot package.
This all works for me.
On 4/18/06, Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried the trick using DESTDIR, but it doesn't really work on HP-UX.
> It still tries to find certain libraries in /usr/local/... during
> make install. The problem seems to be that HP-UX doesn't support
> libraries that move. There it does the linking during "make install"
> instead of during make. I tried the --disable-shared option to see if
> that helps, but it has problems with the Apache modules then. The
> modules don't like to be linked with --disbable.shared. Where in the
> Makefile could I enable shared for mod_dav_svn explicitly? Ot is
> there some sort of option for configure to use.
>
>
>
> Am 18.04.2006 um 07:40 schrieb Timo Wendt:
>
> > Thank you very much for all your help. I will just try it out. I
> > don't need the Apache modules on all hosts. I am fine with just
> > having them on one host which has the central repository.
> >
> > Timo
> >
> >
> > Am 17.04.2006 um 23:13 schrieb René Berber:
> >
> >> Max Bowsher wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>>>> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to
> >>>>> install the Apache
> >>>>> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are
> >>>>> copied to
> >>>>> wherever Apache has its modules
> >>>
> >>> The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
> >>> installation.
> >>
> >> Incorrect? Where does apsx use DESTDIR?
> >>
> >> To be precise, I know svn 1.3.0 install used apsx and that in turn
> >> installed the
> >> modules outside DESTDIR; it may have changed in 1.3.1 .
> >>
> >>>>> and httpd.conf is also changed).
> >>>
> >>> This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-
> >>> activation flag
> >>> to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
> >>
> >> --
> >> René Berber
> >>
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by René Berber <r....@computer.org>.
Timo Wendt wrote:
> I tried the trick using DESTDIR, but it doesn't really work on HP-UX. It
> still tries to find certain libraries in /usr/local/... during make
> install.
What exactly are you trying to do? It looks like you want to build subversion
but don't want the result linked with libraries in /usr/local, is that all?
> The problem seems to be that HP-UX doesn't support libraries
> that move.
Yes it does.
> There it does the linking during "make install" instead of
> during make. I tried the --disable-shared option to see if that helps,
> but it has problems with the Apache modules then. The modules don't like
> to be linked with --disbable.shared. Where in the Makefile could I
> enable shared for mod_dav_svn explicitly? Ot is there some sort of
> option for configure to use.
There are many options but it is not clear what you want to do. Start by
checking the output of configure, it describes what it is looking for and where
does it find it... if some part used, say openssl is in /usr/local/ssl, is in a
place that you don't want to use then you can disable it (--without-ssl) or you
can use it and later configure the dynamic loader to search for those libraries
where you want. By default library paths are hard-coded in the executable, is
that what you want to disable?
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de>.
Hi,
I tried the trick using DESTDIR, but it doesn't really work on HP-UX.
It still tries to find certain libraries in /usr/local/... during
make install. The problem seems to be that HP-UX doesn't support
libraries that move. There it does the linking during "make install"
instead of during make. I tried the --disable-shared option to see if
that helps, but it has problems with the Apache modules then. The
modules don't like to be linked with --disbable.shared. Where in the
Makefile could I enable shared for mod_dav_svn explicitly? Ot is
there some sort of option for configure to use.
Am 18.04.2006 um 07:40 schrieb Timo Wendt:
> Thank you very much for all your help. I will just try it out. I
> don't need the Apache modules on all hosts. I am fine with just
> having them on one host which has the central repository.
>
> Timo
>
>
> Am 17.04.2006 um 23:13 schrieb René Berber:
>
>> Max Bowsher wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to
>>>>> install the Apache
>>>>> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are
>>>>> copied to
>>>>> wherever Apache has its modules
>>>
>>> The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
>>> installation.
>>
>> Incorrect? Where does apsx use DESTDIR?
>>
>> To be precise, I know svn 1.3.0 install used apsx and that in turn
>> installed the
>> modules outside DESTDIR; it may have changed in 1.3.1 .
>>
>>>>> and httpd.conf is also changed).
>>>
>>> This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-
>>> activation flag
>>> to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
>>
>> --
>> René Berber
>>
>>
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de>.
Thank you very much for all your help. I will just try it out. I
don't need the Apache modules on all hosts. I am fine with just
having them on one host which has the central repository.
Timo
Am 17.04.2006 um 23:13 schrieb René Berber:
> Max Bowsher wrote:
> [snip]
>>>> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to
>>>> install the Apache
>>>> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are
>>>> copied to
>>>> wherever Apache has its modules
>>
>> The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
>> installation.
>
> Incorrect? Where does apsx use DESTDIR?
>
> To be precise, I know svn 1.3.0 install used apsx and that in turn
> installed the
> modules outside DESTDIR; it may have changed in 1.3.1 .
>
>>>> and httpd.conf is also changed).
>>
>> This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-
>> activation flag
>> to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
>
> --
> René Berber
>
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by René Berber <r....@computer.org>.
Max Bowsher wrote:
[snip]
>>> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to install the Apache
>>> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are copied to
>>> wherever Apache has its modules
>
> The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
> installation.
Incorrect? Where does apsx use DESTDIR?
To be precise, I know svn 1.3.0 install used apsx and that in turn installed the
modules outside DESTDIR; it may have changed in 1.3.1 .
>>> and httpd.conf is also changed).
>
> This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-activation flag
> to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net>.
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> David Everly wrote:
>
>> Typically, when packaging software, one uses a "staging" area. For
>> modern autoconf/automake/libtool build processes, this can typically
>> be done as follows:
>>
>> ./configure
>> make
>> make install DESTDIR=/path/to/staging/area
>>
>> The contents of /path/to/staging/area is what you can build your
>> package from (of course, the contents may change based on the options
>> passed to ./configure).
>
> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to install the Apache
> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are copied to
> wherever Apache has its modules
The above is incorrect - DESTDIR is honoured by the apache module
installation.
> and httpd.conf is also changed).
This, however, is a valid concern. Use the --disable-mod-activation flag
to ./configure to suppress this behaviour.
Max.
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by David Everly <de...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:32:31PM -0500, René Berber wrote:
> David Everly wrote:
>
> > Typically, when packaging software, one uses a "staging" area. For
> > modern autoconf/automake/libtool build processes, this can typically
> > be done as follows:
> >
> > ./configure
> > make
> > make install DESTDIR=/path/to/staging/area
> >
> > The contents of /path/to/staging/area is what you can build your
> > package from (of course, the contents may change based on the options
> > passed to ./configure).
>
> That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to install the Apache
> modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are copied to
> wherever Apache has its modules and httpd.conf is also changed).
Right you are! I was only considering the basic svn build. Its
unfortunate that apsx doesn't support this to give packagers a break.
If you give an option to gnu make to force it to keep going in spite of
problems (-k), and don't run make install as root, then it may be
possible to see which problems require a manual fix. It may be that
only the Apache modules/config have this problem.
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by René Berber <r....@computer.org>.
David Everly wrote:
> Typically, when packaging software, one uses a "staging" area. For
> modern autoconf/automake/libtool build processes, this can typically
> be done as follows:
>
> ./configure
> make
> make install DESTDIR=/path/to/staging/area
>
> The contents of /path/to/staging/area is what you can build your
> package from (of course, the contents may change based on the options
> passed to ./configure).
That won't work with subversion's install, it uses apsx to install the Apache
modules which are outside your "staging area" (the modules are copied to
wherever Apache has its modules and httpd.conf is also changed).
Another technique is to find what was changed:
1. touch timestamp
2. make install
3. find /usr -newer timestamp -print > installed-filelist.txt
Of course it assumes everything is under /usr or wherever you do the find (/
won't work because many things change all the time under /var and /proc).
A more complicated technique is to use a chroot'ed staging area. That one
covers all possible changes but it's difficult to set up (you need to copy all
the files that will be needed).
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Re: SD Depot for HP-UX
Posted by David Everly <de...@gmail.com>.
Typically, when packaging software, one uses a "staging" area. For
modern autoconf/automake/libtool build processes, this can typically
be done as follows:
./configure
make
make install DESTDIR=/path/to/staging/area
The contents of /path/to/staging/area is what you can build your
package from (of course, the contents may change based on the options
passed to ./configure).
On 4/17/06, Timo Wendt <tw...@online.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to build a SD Depot of Subversion for HP-UX. Does
> anybody know if there is already a depot around somehwere?
> How do I find out the complete list of files that "make install"
> installs on my system? Is there probably a tool around that is able
> to create a list of all the files by parsing the Makefiles?
>
> Timo
>
>
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