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Posted to dev@wicket.apache.org by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> on 2007/11/03 19:28:17 UTC

Future of the wicketframework.org domain

The wicketframework.org domain is now pointing (through a redirect) to
the wicket.apache.org website.

The domain is still registered on my name, and I'm ready to let it go.
The question is: should we keep the domain (register it through the
ASF) or let it expire.

Expiration has the advantage that we (the ASF) don't have any costs
associated with keeping it alive. The fact that the domain never got
any real traction makes this a viable solution.

However, letting the domain expire gives domain squatters the
opportunity to take the domain and use it for other purposes than we
intend(ed)

Before I cast a vote I'd like to hear if there are other sides and opinions.

If you're interested in which sites link to the domain: here's a
google query [1].

Martijn

[1] http://www.google.com/search?q=link:wicketframework.org
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Re: Future of the wicketframework.org domain

Posted by Bruno Borges <br...@gmail.com>.

wicketframework.org would not provide useful information but links to the
real websites... like opencompositing.org does :)

On Nov 5, 2007 3:58 PM, Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com> wrote:

> Bruno Borges wrote:
> > I'd like to suggest to turn wicketframework.org into a front door for
> all
> > kind of Wicket information. Link to Wicket Stuff, tutorials, mailing
> list,
> > Apache's website, etc.
>
> With all respect, I completely disagree with this suggestion. ;-)
>
> We most certainly do not want to fracture things into two web sites
> which will get out of sync, require two sets of news postings, have
> duplicate information that will potentially conflict, etc. etc.
>
> Having lots of different URLs and sites is very confusing for new users.
> Witness the old wiki getting out of date and confusing people.
>
> The only thing we need to put on secondary sites are:
> 1) The wiki.
> 2) Stuff that's not ASF-license compatible (wicketstuff).
>
> Err, I think that's it.
>
> wicket.apache.org is, and should continue to be, the "front door".
> It already has all the links that you mention. If you don't think it's
> good enough at doing that job, feedback is welcome.
>
> Regarding what we should therefore do with wicketframework.org, I vote
> we just let it lapse. One fewer thing to manage and worry about.
>
> Regards,
>
> Al
>



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Re: Future of the wicketframework.org domain

Posted by Al Maw <wi...@almaw.com>.

Bruno Borges wrote:
> I'd like to suggest to turn wicketframework.org into a front door for all
> kind of Wicket information. Link to Wicket Stuff, tutorials, mailing list,
> Apache's website, etc.

With all respect, I completely disagree with this suggestion. ;-)

We most certainly do not want to fracture things into two web sites 
which will get out of sync, require two sets of news postings, have 
duplicate information that will potentially conflict, etc. etc.

Having lots of different URLs and sites is very confusing for new users. 
Witness the old wiki getting out of date and confusing people.

The only thing we need to put on secondary sites are:
1) The wiki.
2) Stuff that's not ASF-license compatible (wicketstuff).

Err, I think that's it.

wicket.apache.org is, and should continue to be, the "front door".
It already has all the links that you mention. If you don't think it's 
good enough at doing that job, feedback is welcome.

Regarding what we should therefore do with wicketframework.org, I vote 
we just let it lapse. One fewer thing to manage and worry about.

Regards,

Al

Re: Future of the wicketframework.org domain

Posted by Korbinian Bachl <ko...@whiskyworld.de>.

i find this idea nice, too

Regards,

Korbinian

PS: if the cost of the domain is an issue, then dump me an email and ill 
pay these bucks - 10 euro / year is not an issue regarding a great piece 
of software IMHO...


Bruno Borges schrieb:
> I'd like to suggest to turn wicketframework.org into a front door for all
> kind of Wicket information. Link to Wicket Stuff, tutorials, mailing list,
> Apache's website, etc.
> 
> If you go to http://www.opencompositing.org/ you will see what I'm talking
> about.
> 
> This website is about Compiz, Beryl and everything related with the 3D
> (AIGLX/Xgl) Linux environment.
> 
> I think this would give new users an easy starting point to join Wicket. :)
> 
> m2c
> 
> On Nov 4, 2007 6:22 PM, Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/4/07, Johan Compagner <jc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I meant going yourself, not paying for me!
>>> But i have no problem if somebody is paying for me!! :)
>> Neither do I, but I found the difference between keeping
>> wicketfarmework.org alive (about 10-15 euros per year) in stark
>> contrast to a ticket for ApacheCon (last year roughly 400 euros) :-)
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>> --
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>>
> 
> 
>