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Posted to dev@apisix.apache.org by zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> on 2019/10/29 02:45:09 UTC
[DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to
"router-set"
Hi folks!
As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the most important about Cloud Native is
Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more of
A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
So, what’s your opinion?
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Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to
"router-set"
Posted by zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com>.
So what about the “route” itself? Its also have upstream, plugins, etc.
What’s a really service should be? It’s must provider some businesses or abilities
rather than a group of route rules alright?
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On 10/29/2019 17:18，Zhiyuan Ju<ju...@apache.org> wrote：
According to the description of Service[1] here, I would prefer keeping the current Name. Because one service of APISIX here not only includes a group of routes but also has upstream, plugins, etc.
[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix/blob/master/doc/architecture-design.md#service
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju
zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 下午4:36写道：
I couldn’t concept your reason as “there is also `service` in Kong”, we’re ApiSix not Kong.
We should not forgot that the “service” in APISix is just a truly “route set". We should face the truth.
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On 10/29/2019 16:32，YuanSheng Wang<me...@gmail.com> wrote：
Hi:
I thought about it, there is also `service` in Kong, and here we are almost
the same.
So I prefer to continue using `service`.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:45 AM zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> wrote:
Hi folks!
As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
most important about Cloud Native is
Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
of
A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
So, what’s your opinion?
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idevz
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|
zhoujing_k49@163.com
|
Idevz.org
github.com/idevz
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Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to "router-set"
Posted by Zhiyuan Ju <ju...@apache.org>.
According to the description of Service[1] here, I would prefer *keeping
the current Name*. Because one service of APISIX here not only includes a
group of routes but also has upstream, plugins, etc.
[image: image.png]
[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix/blob/master/doc/architecture-design.md#service
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://www.shaoyaoju.org/>
zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 下午4:36写道：
> I couldn’t concept your reason as “there is also `service` in Kong”, we’re
> ApiSix not Kong.
> We should not forgot that the “service” in APISix is just a truly “route
> set". We should face the truth.
>
>
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> idevz
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> zhoujing_k49@163.com
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> Idevz.org
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> github.com/idevz
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>
> On 10/29/2019 16:32，YuanSheng Wang<me...@gmail.com> wrote：
> Hi:
>
> I thought about it, there is also `service` in Kong, and here we are almost
> the same.
>
> So I prefer to continue using `service`.
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:45 AM zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks!
>
>
> As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
> most important about Cloud Native is
> Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
>
>
> We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
> abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
> something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
> of
> A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
> confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
>
>
> So, what’s your opinion?
>
>
> | |
> idevz
> |
> |
> zhoujing_k49@163.com
> |
>
> Idevz.org
>
> github.com/idevz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *MembPhis*
> My github: https://github.com/membphis
> Our Book: OpenResty Best Practices
> <https://www.gitbook.com/book/moonbingbing/openresty-best-practices>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to
"router-set"
Posted by zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com>.
I couldn’t concept your reason as “there is also `service` in Kong”, we’re ApiSix not Kong.
We should not forgot that the “service” in APISix is just a truly “route set". We should face the truth.
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idevz
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zhoujing_k49@163.com
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Idevz.org
github.com/idevz
On 10/29/2019 16:32，YuanSheng Wang<me...@gmail.com> wrote：
Hi:
I thought about it, there is also `service` in Kong, and here we are almost
the same.
So I prefer to continue using `service`.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:45 AM zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> wrote:
Hi folks!
As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
most important about Cloud Native is
Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
of
A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
So, what’s your opinion?
| |
idevz
|
|
zhoujing_k49@163.com
|
Idevz.org
github.com/idevz
--
*MembPhis*
My github: https://github.com/membphis
Our Book: OpenResty Best Practices
<https://www.gitbook.com/book/moonbingbing/openresty-best-practices>
Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to "router-set"
Posted by YuanSheng Wang <me...@gmail.com>.
Hi:
I thought about it, there is also `service` in Kong, and here we are almost
the same.
So I prefer to continue using `service`.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:45 AM zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
>
> As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
> most important about Cloud Native is
> Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
>
>
> We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
> abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
> something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
> of
> A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
> confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
>
>
> So, what’s your opinion?
>
>
> | |
> idevz
> |
> |
> zhoujing_k49@163.com
> |
>
> Idevz.org
>
> github.com/idevz
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
*MembPhis*
My github: https://github.com/membphis
Our Book: OpenResty Best Practices
<https://www.gitbook.com/book/moonbingbing/openresty-best-practices>
Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to "router-set"
Posted by Zhiyuan Ju <ju...@apache.org>.
Got it, RouteSet may be more semanticization, but from another perspective,
it's not a good idea to be constrained by other things, we need a deeper
discussion about the balance :)
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://www.shaoyaoju.org/>
zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 上午11:30写道：
>
>
> I mean this:
>
>
> apisix/lua/apisix/admin/services.lua
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix/blob/master/doc/architecture-design.md#service
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> idevz
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> zhoujing_k49@163.com
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> Idevz.org
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> github.com/idevz
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> On 10/29/2019 11:11，Zhiyuan Ju<ju...@apache.org> wrote：
> Hi zhoujing_k49,
>
> I just searched the keyword *Service* but still get confused, could you
> have a more detailed description? The APISIX is a kind of Microservices as
> you know.
>
> Best Regards!
> @ Zhiyuan Ju <https://www.shaoyaoju.org/>
>
>
> zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 上午10:45写道：
>
> Hi folks!
>
>
> As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
> most important about Cloud Native is
> Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
>
>
> We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
> abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
> something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
> of
> A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
> confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
>
>
> So, what’s your opinion?
>
>
> | |
> idevz
> |
> |
> zhoujing_k49@163.com
> |
>
> Idevz.org
>
> github.com/idevz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to
"router-set"
Posted by zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com>.
I mean this:
apisix/lua/apisix/admin/services.lua
https://github.com/apache/incubator-apisix/blob/master/doc/architecture-design.md#service
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idevz
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zhoujing_k49@163.com
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Idevz.org
github.com/idevz
On 10/29/2019 11:11，Zhiyuan Ju<ju...@apache.org> wrote：
Hi zhoujing_k49,
I just searched the keyword *Service* but still get confused, could you
have a more detailed description? The APISIX is a kind of Microservices as
you know.
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://www.shaoyaoju.org/>
zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 上午10:45写道：
Hi folks!
As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
most important about Cloud Native is
Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
of
A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
So, what’s your opinion?
| |
idevz
|
|
zhoujing_k49@163.com
|
Idevz.org
github.com/idevz
Re: [DISCUSS] I want to change the concept "service" in Apisix to "router-set"
Posted by Zhiyuan Ju <ju...@apache.org>.
Hi zhoujing_k49,
I just searched the keyword *Service* but still get confused, could you
have a more detailed description? The APISIX is a kind of Microservices as
you know.
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://www.shaoyaoju.org/>
zhoujingk_49 <zh...@163.com> 于2019年10月29日周二 上午10:45写道：
> Hi folks!
>
>
> As we know Apisix is one of an Cloud Native APIGateway, and one of the
> most important about Cloud Native is
> Does our Apisix is friendly enough with Kubernetes？
>
>
> We all know “ service" is an important concept in Kubernetes, it's an
> abstraction of pods. It's truly about describing a service things, provider
> something ability to others. But the “Service” in Apisix, I wandering more
> of
> A router set than a Service. And a Apisix “service” would make someone
> confused when using Apisix in Kubernetes environment.
>
>
> So, what’s your opinion?
>
>
> | |
> idevz
> |
> |
> zhoujing_k49@163.com
> |
>
> Idevz.org
>
> github.com/idevz
>
>
>
>
>
>