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Posted to dev@cmda.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> on 2016/11/02 22:07:04 UTC
No report?
Dear CMDA Podling,
I've noticed that you have yet to post a report. I've also noticed that
your mailing list activities have dwindled again. I was wondering if you
had a plan forward at this point.
John
Re: No report?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3010)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
I’ll review it today sorry I’m late.
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
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On 11/8/16, 7:59 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
On 2016-11-04 05:46 (-0500), Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> > members.
> >
>
> Lei,
>
> It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
> you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
> community.
>
Agreed. We also need to make sure mentors can help guide these podlings.
With that said, can one of the mentors review the report? Chris?
Re: No report?
Posted by Martin Desruisseaux <ma...@geomatys.com>.
Hello Chris and all
Sorry for the late reply. I saw a previous discussion on the mailing
list above a web site. Do we have one? I saw
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cmda.html but I was wondering if
there is another web site giving other details on the project.
About community, maybe one thing that would help would be to know if
comments have been received? I submitted a JIRA task 8 months ago [1],
but since I saw no activity after task creation I do not know if the
task has been noticed. Of course I do not expect the issue to be
necessarily accepted or resolved in any particular time frame; I just
wonder if something has been missed...
Regards,
Martin
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CMDA-16
Le 10/11/2016 � 07:41, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) a �crit :
> Done.
>
> Here were my comments:
>
> I'm worried still about this podling. Discussion seemed to still happen offlist
> and to be summarized to the list, instead of actively involving others in the
> community. Also, it says the website has been drafted - where is it? Where are
> the corresponding JIRA issues? Where are the public discussions about the site.
> The podling is/was on a short leash since the [DISCUSS] Retirement vote. I'd say
> give it one more month, and would appreciate others chiming in here. The other
> thing I'd say is that there is definitely mentor attrition here. I don't think we
> have enough active mentors reinforcing and sending the message (myself included)
> day to day. It's definitely more reactive now than proactive. The podling could use
> some help in that area.
>
> Community \u2013 please take a moment to read and react. I\u2019m interested here in thoughts.
>
> Chris
Re: No report?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3010)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Thanks Seungwon. Any reason why we havent’ pushed this to Apache yet? It’s looking
like a nice site, some early feedback:
1. Apache needs to be present in the first mention of the CMDA project name.
2. See trademarks guidelines here:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 11/10/16, 4:49 PM, "Lee, Seungwon (398K)" <se...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Chris and others,
The draft version of the CMDA Apache project website is currently in our local server.
http://einstein.sv.cmu.edu:9030/
--
Dr. Seungwon Lee
Technical Group Supervisor
Science Data Modeling and Computing (398K)
Instrument Software and Science Data System Section (398)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
California Institute of Technology
Tel: 818-393-7720
Cell: 818-397-2284
From: "Mattmann, Chris A (3010)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>>
Reply-To: "dev@cmda.incubator.apache.org<ma...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 4:41 PM
To: "dev@cmda.incubator.apache.org<ma...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>>, "dev@cmda.apache.org<ma...@cmda.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: No report?
Done.
Here were my comments:
I'm worried still about this podling. Discussion seemed to still happen offlist
and to be summarized to the list, instead of actively involving others in the
community. Also, it says the website has been drafted - where is it? Where are
the corresponding JIRA issues? Where are the public discussions about the site.
The podling is/was on a short leash since the [DISCUSS] Retirement vote. I'd say
give it one more month, and would appreciate others chiming in here. The other
thing I'd say is that there is definitely mentor attrition here. I don't think we
have enough active mentors reinforcing and sending the message (myself included)
day to day. It's definitely more reactive now than proactive. The podling could use
some help in that area.
Community – please take a moment to read and react. I’m interested here in thoughts.
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov<ma...@nasa.gov>
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 11/8/16, 7:59 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>> wrote:
On 2016-11-04 05:46 (-0500), Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> > members.
> >
>
> Lei,
>
> It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
> you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
> community.
>
Agreed. We also need to make sure mentors can help guide these podlings.
With that said, can one of the mentors review the report? Chris?
Re: No report?
Posted by "Lee, Seungwon (398K)" <se...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Chris and others,
The draft version of the CMDA Apache project website is currently in our local server.
http://einstein.sv.cmu.edu:9030/
--
Dr. Seungwon Lee
Technical Group Supervisor
Science Data Modeling and Computing (398K)
Instrument Software and Science Data System Section (398)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
California Institute of Technology
Tel: 818-393-7720
Cell: 818-397-2284
From: "Mattmann, Chris A (3010)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>>
Reply-To: "dev@cmda.incubator.apache.org<ma...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 4:41 PM
To: "dev@cmda.incubator.apache.org<ma...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.incubator.apache.org>>, "dev@cmda.apache.org<ma...@cmda.apache.org>" <de...@cmda.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: No report?
Done.
Here were my comments:
I'm worried still about this podling. Discussion seemed to still happen offlist
and to be summarized to the list, instead of actively involving others in the
community. Also, it says the website has been drafted - where is it? Where are
the corresponding JIRA issues? Where are the public discussions about the site.
The podling is/was on a short leash since the [DISCUSS] Retirement vote. I'd say
give it one more month, and would appreciate others chiming in here. The other
thing I'd say is that there is definitely mentor attrition here. I don't think we
have enough active mentors reinforcing and sending the message (myself included)
day to day. It's definitely more reactive now than proactive. The podling could use
some help in that area.
Community – please take a moment to read and react. I’m interested here in thoughts.
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov<ma...@nasa.gov>
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 11/8/16, 7:59 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>> wrote:
On 2016-11-04 05:46 (-0500), Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> > members.
> >
>
> Lei,
>
> It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
> you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
> community.
>
Agreed. We also need to make sure mentors can help guide these podlings.
With that said, can one of the mentors review the report? Chris?
Re: No report?
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3010)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Done.
Here were my comments:
I'm worried still about this podling. Discussion seemed to still happen offlist
and to be summarized to the list, instead of actively involving others in the
community. Also, it says the website has been drafted - where is it? Where are
the corresponding JIRA issues? Where are the public discussions about the site.
The podling is/was on a short leash since the [DISCUSS] Retirement vote. I'd say
give it one more month, and would appreciate others chiming in here. The other
thing I'd say is that there is definitely mentor attrition here. I don't think we
have enough active mentors reinforcing and sending the message (myself included)
day to day. It's definitely more reactive now than proactive. The podling could use
some help in that area.
Community – please take a moment to read and react. I’m interested here in thoughts.
Chris
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-502
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 11/8/16, 7:59 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
On 2016-11-04 05:46 (-0500), Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> > members.
> >
>
> Lei,
>
> It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
> you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
> community.
>
Agreed. We also need to make sure mentors can help guide these podlings.
With that said, can one of the mentors review the report? Chris?
Re: No report?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On 2016-11-04 05:46 (-0500), Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> > members.
> >
>
> Lei,
>
> It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
> you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
> community.
>
Agreed. We also need to make sure mentors can help guide these podlings.
With that said, can one of the mentors review the report? Chris?
Re: No report?
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Pan, Lei (398K) <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>
wrote:
> Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
> members.
>
Lei,
It is best to hold discussions like this on the mailing list. Otherwise,
you only include people within hearing distance and you will not build your
community.
Re: No report?
Posted by "Pan, Lei (398K)" <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi John:
I have submitted our report last night.
Did you see it? I am attaching it below.
Yesterday I was collecting info from our team
members.
Thanks,
-Lei
--------------------
Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer
CMDA provides web services for multi-aspect physics-based and phenomenon-
oriented climate model performance evaluation and diagnosis through the
comprehensive and synergistic use of multiple observational data,
reanalysis
data, and model outputs.
Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer has been incubating since 2015-05-08.
The achievements in October of 2016 are:
1. Drafted the Apache CMDA project web page
2. Developed a mechanism to keep track of user id in each service call
3. Designed a mechanism to define a workflow, to execute a workflow, to
collect the result and provenance from the workflow execution.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. To facilitate workflow scenarios in which a scientist can chain two or
more services;
2. To develop a suite of science use cases;
3. To demonstrate the use of provenance in recommendation of data, users,
and services.
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
None.
How has the community developed since the last report?
A climate scientist Frank Lee has joined the project to develop science
use
cases. The priority has been shifted to helping him in adding new source
data files and modifying the software to accommodate these new data
files.
How has the project developed since the last report?
The issues that we found from our 2016 Caltech/JPL climate summer school
have been addressed. Examples are: a mechanism to capture and store user
id
for provenance data collection, and removal of some functionalities that
are not meant for users that do not have login accounts on our website.
Date of last release:
XXXX-XX-XX
When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
Signed-off-by:
[ ](climatemodeldiagnosticanalyzer) James W. Carman
[ ](climatemodeldiagnosticanalyzer) Chris Mattmann
[ ](climatemodeldiagnosticanalyzer) Michael James Joyce
[ ](climatemodeldiagnosticanalyzer) Kim Whitehall
[ ](climatemodeldiagnosticanalyzer) Gregory D. Reddin
Shepherd/Mentor notes:
On 11/3/16, 5:19 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hi Lei,
>
>Where are you collecting this info? Any public discussions on it?
>
>John
>
>On 2016-11-02 18:10 (-0400), "Pan, Lei (398K)" <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>
>wrote:
>> Hi John:
>>
>> I am collecting info for the monthly report.
>> I will post it as soon as possible. I am
>> sorry for not getting it done earlier.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Lei
>>
>> On 11/2/16, 3:07 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear CMDA Podling,
>> >
>> >I've noticed that you have yet to post a report. I've also noticed
>>that
>> >your mailing list activities have dwindled again. I was wondering if
>>you
>> >had a plan forward at this point.
>> >
>> >John
>>
>>
Re: No report?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi Lei,
Where are you collecting this info? Any public discussions on it?
John
On 2016-11-02 18:10 (-0400), "Pan, Lei (398K)" <le...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi John:
>
> I am collecting info for the monthly report.
> I will post it as soon as possible. I am
> sorry for not getting it done earlier.
>
> Thanks,
> -Lei
>
> On 11/2/16, 3:07 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Dear CMDA Podling,
> >
> >I've noticed that you have yet to post a report. I've also noticed that
> >your mailing list activities have dwindled again. I was wondering if you
> >had a plan forward at this point.
> >
> >John
>
>
Re: No report?
Posted by "Pan, Lei (398K)" <le...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi John:
I am collecting info for the monthly report.
I will post it as soon as possible. I am
sorry for not getting it done earlier.
Thanks,
-Lei
On 11/2/16, 3:07 PM, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dear CMDA Podling,
>
>I've noticed that you have yet to post a report. I've also noticed that
>your mailing list activities have dwindled again. I was wondering if you
>had a plan forward at this point.
>
>John