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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Mike Braden <mi...@nc.rr.com> on 2001/07/19 04:51:16 UTC
FW: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
Has anyone seen this yet?
Subject: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2790355,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews
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Re: FW: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
Posted by Alex Fernández <af...@tid.es>.
Hi Mike!
Mike Braden wrote:
> Has anyone seen this yet?
>
> Subject: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2790355,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews
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Does not apply here, since Jakarta deals with server-side Java.
Un saludo,
Alex.
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Re: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
Posted by Fernando Padilla <fe...@interdimensions.com>.
It has been my DREAM to see the 1.1 JVM Applets abolished. It really was
a matter of time, until that old JVM code was ripped out of browsers where
it does not belong and people use the official java plug-ins. Except I
can see a lot of growing pains, because possibly 99.9% of all applets are
the old <applet> kind and not the new plug-in kind, thus shutting down
alot of the older sites... sigh
fernando
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Avi Cherry wrote:
> Actually, Microsoft has only been ALLOWED to ship a very old (version
> 1.1) JVM with Windows, because of the settlement with Sun.
> Speculation is that this is for the best, because it will stop people
> from having to write for the lowest common denominator VM out there,
> which is Microsoft's. Apparently it takes all of a minute or so
> (depending on connection speed) to download Sun's VM, and happens
> almost automatically, just like any other browser plug-in.
> So... Big deal, I say.
> Anybody running an actual Java APPLICATION is surely going to
> download a separate JVM anyway, so this really only makes a
> difference for the browser, which is really no big loss.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Avi
>
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Re: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
Posted by Avi Cherry <al...@insomniaque.net>.
Actually, Microsoft has only been ALLOWED to ship a very old (version
1.1) JVM with Windows, because of the settlement with Sun.
Speculation is that this is for the best, because it will stop people
from having to write for the lowest common denominator VM out there,
which is Microsoft's. Apparently it takes all of a minute or so
(depending on connection speed) to download Sun's VM, and happens
almost automatically, just like any other browser plug-in.
So... Big deal, I say.
Anybody running an actual Java APPLICATION is surely going to
download a separate JVM anyway, so this really only makes a
difference for the browser, which is really no big loss.
Just my $0.02.
Avi
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Re: Microsoft pulls back on Java support
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Mike Braden at mikeb@nc.rr.com wrote:
> Has anyone seen this yet?
So what? They're dropping support for applets in the standard Windows-XP
distribution... We're working on the other side, who the crap cares about
applets? :) :) :)
Pier
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