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Posted to dev@camel.apache.org by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> on 2013/04/25 15:26:35 UTC
[DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Hi
We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
version we use.
We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
bit old version, to be honest".
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Re: [DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Posted by Willem jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
With the help of OSGi, we could specify the library version that we want.
But the tricky part could be we may specify the version range for it.
BTW, Can we just targeting deploying Camel 2.12.x into Karaf 3.0.0 ?
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On Friday, April 26, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> sounds good, though jetty 8 is only available for karaf 3.0.0 right now,
> since Karaf 2.2.x line still depends on Pax-Web 1.0.x (Jetty 7) and Karaf
> 2.3.x depends on Pax-Web 1.1 (still Jetty 7).
> If you want Jetty 8 you need at least Pax-Web 2.1 or 3.0 (which is soon to
> come).
> Karaf 3.0.0.RC1 does use Pax-Web 3.0.0.M3.
> Not sure if there will be a 2.4 of Karaf.
> Just switching Jetty without changing Pax-Web won't work for Karaf due to
> incompatible changes in the Jetty API.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
>
> 2013/4/25 Christian Müller <christian.mueller@gmail.com (mailto:christian.mueller@gmail.com)>
>
> > +1
> >
> > Best,
> > Christian
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com (mailto:claus.ibsen@gmail.com)>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
> > > should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
> > > version we use.
> > >
> > > We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
> > > end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
> > > bit old version, to be honest".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Claus Ibsen
> > > -----------------
> > > Red Hat, Inc.
> > > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> > > Email: cibsen@redhat.com (mailto:cibsen@redhat.com)
> > > Web: http://fusesource.com
> > > Twitter: davsclaus
> > > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> > > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
> Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
> Commiter & Project Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
Re: [DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Claus,
the issue the api of Jetty 7 and 8 is not compatible, otherwise I'd go for
a +1 right away.
If you're able to make it compatible with 7 and 8, I'm fine with it. Just
need to make sure the features
don't start to import Jetty 8 and depend on Pax-Web 1.0.x or 1.1.x.
regards, Achim
2013/4/26 Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> Hi Achim
>
> The goal would be to be 7.6.x backwards compatible. But just by
> default use Jetty 8.x.
> This mainly helps NON OGSi deployments as when they use camel-jetty,
> they automatic get the maven dependencies on the newer 8.x versions.
>
> For Karaf / SMX users, the goal should be that camel-jetty would be
> compatible and installable in Karaf 2.x containers as well, where it
> uses whatever the Jetty version it offers (eg that would be Jetty
> 7.x).
>
> For example AFAIR Apache CXF 2.7 is Jetty 8.x in their maven
> dependencies, but installable in Karaf 2.x which uses Jetty 7.x.
>
> So if CXF can do it, then Camel can also.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Achim Nierbeck
> <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > sounds good, though jetty 8 is only available for karaf 3.0.0 right now,
> > since Karaf 2.2.x line still depends on Pax-Web 1.0.x (Jetty 7) and Karaf
> > 2.3.x depends on Pax-Web 1.1 (still Jetty 7).
> > If you want Jetty 8 you need at least Pax-Web 2.1 or 3.0 (which is soon
> to
> > come).
> > Karaf 3.0.0.RC1 does use Pax-Web 3.0.0.M3.
> > Not sure if there will be a 2.4 of Karaf.
> > Just switching Jetty without changing Pax-Web won't work for Karaf due to
> > incompatible changes in the Jetty API.
> >
> > regards, Achim
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/4/25 Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
> >> > should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
> >> > version we use.
> >> >
> >> > We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
> >> > end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
> >> > bit old version, to be honest".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Claus Ibsen
> >> > -----------------
> >> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >> > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> >> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> > Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> > Twitter: davsclaus
> >> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
> &
> > Project Lead
> > OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
> > Commiter & Project Lead
> > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>
--
Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
Project Lead
OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
Commiter & Project Lead
blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
Re: [DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Achim
The goal would be to be 7.6.x backwards compatible. But just by
default use Jetty 8.x.
This mainly helps NON OGSi deployments as when they use camel-jetty,
they automatic get the maven dependencies on the newer 8.x versions.
For Karaf / SMX users, the goal should be that camel-jetty would be
compatible and installable in Karaf 2.x containers as well, where it
uses whatever the Jetty version it offers (eg that would be Jetty
7.x).
For example AFAIR Apache CXF 2.7 is Jetty 8.x in their maven
dependencies, but installable in Karaf 2.x which uses Jetty 7.x.
So if CXF can do it, then Camel can also.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Achim Nierbeck
<bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> sounds good, though jetty 8 is only available for karaf 3.0.0 right now,
> since Karaf 2.2.x line still depends on Pax-Web 1.0.x (Jetty 7) and Karaf
> 2.3.x depends on Pax-Web 1.1 (still Jetty 7).
> If you want Jetty 8 you need at least Pax-Web 2.1 or 3.0 (which is soon to
> come).
> Karaf 3.0.0.RC1 does use Pax-Web 3.0.0.M3.
> Not sure if there will be a 2.4 of Karaf.
> Just switching Jetty without changing Pax-Web won't work for Karaf due to
> incompatible changes in the Jetty API.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
>
> 2013/4/25 Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>
>
>> +1
>>
>> Best,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
>> > should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
>> > version we use.
>> >
>> > We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
>> > end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
>> > bit old version, to be honest".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Claus Ibsen
>> > -----------------
>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> > Web: http://fusesource.com
>> > Twitter: davsclaus
>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
> Project Lead
> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
> Commiter & Project Lead
> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
Re: [DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
sounds good, though jetty 8 is only available for karaf 3.0.0 right now,
since Karaf 2.2.x line still depends on Pax-Web 1.0.x (Jetty 7) and Karaf
2.3.x depends on Pax-Web 1.1 (still Jetty 7).
If you want Jetty 8 you need at least Pax-Web 2.1 or 3.0 (which is soon to
come).
Karaf 3.0.0.RC1 does use Pax-Web 3.0.0.M3.
Not sure if there will be a 2.4 of Karaf.
Just switching Jetty without changing Pax-Web won't work for Karaf due to
incompatible changes in the Jetty API.
regards, Achim
2013/4/25 Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>
> +1
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
> > should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
> > version we use.
> >
> > We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
> > end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
> > bit old version, to be honest".
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> > Web: http://fusesource.com
> > Twitter: davsclaus
> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >
>
--
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OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
Project Lead
OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
Commiter & Project Lead
blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
Re: [DISCUSS] - Upgrading Jetty version in Camel 2.12
Posted by Christian Müller <ch...@gmail.com>.
+1
Best,
Christian
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> We are running with Jetty 7.6.x for a long time. For Camel 2.12 we
> should IMHO consider upgrading to Jetty 8.x as the out of the box
> version we use.
>
> We should be backwards compatible with Jetty 7.6 in this release. So
> end users can use Camel in Karaf / SMX containers that rely on that "a
> bit old version, to be honest".
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>