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Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Hi
I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
<factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
Any opinion?
Carlos
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
oops, must have missed that :)
2011/4/5 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> Yeah, I agree. In Karaf, we've enhanced the config commands so that
> you can actually edit a configuration based on the zookeeper file it
> uses, so that should help too.
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 17:36, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> you are right that if there are multiple directories watched you run
>> into this issue.
>> Never the less the ID still would be unique, just the stored data
>> wouldn't which leads to quite a mess
>> when looking for the reason :)
>>
>> Since the ConfigurationAdmin API doesn't give a way of adding this
>> PID, ok I give up :)
>>
>> Just thinking about a perfect world, where we certainly don't live in,
>> it would have helped.
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/5 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>>> Fileinstall can monitor multiple directories, so you'd need the full
>>> path in order to have a unique id.
>>> And the ConfigurationAdmin API gives no way to set the PID anyway, so
>>> not sure how we could do that. The API only allow the creation of a
>>> new factory configuration given its factory PID or the modification of
>>> an existing configuration.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 09:01, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>
>>>> I'm still not convinced :)
>>>> Since a file name is usually unique since we are talking of the
>>>> combination of FileInstall and ConfigurationAdmin.
>>>> In this case I'd say the <factory.pid>-<service-pid> pattern could be used.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/4/4 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> @Achim:
>>>>> This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
>>>>>
>>>>> @Carlos:
>>>>> Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
>>>>> pid instead of factory based configurations?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
>>>>>> PID is generated?
>>>>>> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
>>>>>> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
>>>>>> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
>>>>>> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
>>>>>> to the factory PID.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
>>>>>> unique PID.
>>>>>> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
>>>>>> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just my 2 cents
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>>>>>>> no, that's not possible.
>>>>>>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>>>>>>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>>>>>>> back to the file.
>>>>>>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any opinion?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carlos
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I agree. In Karaf, we've enhanced the config commands so that
you can actually edit a configuration based on the zookeeper file it
uses, so that should help too.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 17:36, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Guillaume,
>
> you are right that if there are multiple directories watched you run
> into this issue.
> Never the less the ID still would be unique, just the stored data
> wouldn't which leads to quite a mess
> when looking for the reason :)
>
> Since the ConfigurationAdmin API doesn't give a way of adding this
> PID, ok I give up :)
>
> Just thinking about a perfect world, where we certainly don't live in,
> it would have helped.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2011/4/5 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>> Fileinstall can monitor multiple directories, so you'd need the full
>> path in order to have a unique id.
>> And the ConfigurationAdmin API gives no way to set the PID anyway, so
>> not sure how we could do that. The API only allow the creation of a
>> new factory configuration given its factory PID or the modification of
>> an existing configuration.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 09:01, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>
>>> I'm still not convinced :)
>>> Since a file name is usually unique since we are talking of the
>>> combination of FileInstall and ConfigurationAdmin.
>>> In this case I'd say the <factory.pid>-<service-pid> pattern could be used.
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/4/4 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>>>> @Achim:
>>>> This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
>>>>
>>>> @Carlos:
>>>> Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
>>>> pid instead of factory based configurations?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>>
>>>>> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
>>>>> PID is generated?
>>>>> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
>>>>> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
>>>>> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
>>>>> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
>>>>> to the factory PID.
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
>>>>> unique PID.
>>>>> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
>>>>> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>>>>>
>>>>> just my 2 cents
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>>>>>> no, that's not possible.
>>>>>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>>>>>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>>>>>> back to the file.
>>>>>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any opinion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
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>>>> ------------------------
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>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Guillaume,
you are right that if there are multiple directories watched you run
into this issue.
Never the less the ID still would be unique, just the stored data
wouldn't which leads to quite a mess
when looking for the reason :)
Since the ConfigurationAdmin API doesn't give a way of adding this
PID, ok I give up :)
Just thinking about a perfect world, where we certainly don't live in,
it would have helped.
regards, Achim
2011/4/5 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> Fileinstall can monitor multiple directories, so you'd need the full
> path in order to have a unique id.
> And the ConfigurationAdmin API gives no way to set the PID anyway, so
> not sure how we could do that. The API only allow the creation of a
> new factory configuration given its factory PID or the modification of
> an existing configuration.
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 09:01, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guillaume,
>>
>> I'm still not convinced :)
>> Since a file name is usually unique since we are talking of the
>> combination of FileInstall and ConfigurationAdmin.
>> In this case I'd say the <factory.pid>-<service-pid> pattern could be used.
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/4 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>>> @Achim:
>>> This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
>>>
>>> @Carlos:
>>> Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
>>> pid instead of factory based configurations?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>
>>>> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
>>>> PID is generated?
>>>> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
>>>> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
>>>> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
>>>> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
>>>> to the factory PID.
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
>>>> unique PID.
>>>> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
>>>> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>>>>
>>>> just my 2 cents
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>>>>> no, that's not possible.
>>>>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>>>>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>>>>> back to the file.
>>>>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any opinion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Fileinstall can monitor multiple directories, so you'd need the full
path in order to have a unique id.
And the ConfigurationAdmin API gives no way to set the PID anyway, so
not sure how we could do that. The API only allow the creation of a
new factory configuration given its factory PID or the modification of
an existing configuration.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 09:01, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I'm still not convinced :)
> Since a file name is usually unique since we are talking of the
> combination of FileInstall and ConfigurationAdmin.
> In this case I'd say the <factory.pid>-<service-pid> pattern could be used.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2011/4/4 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
>> @Achim:
>> This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
>>
>> @Carlos:
>> Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
>> pid instead of factory based configurations?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>
>>> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
>>> PID is generated?
>>> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
>>> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
>>> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
>>> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
>>> to the factory PID.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
>>> unique PID.
>>> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
>>> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>>>
>>> just my 2 cents
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>>>> no, that's not possible.
>>>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>>>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>>>> back to the file.
>>>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>>>
>>>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>>>
>>>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>>>
>>>>> Any opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@felix.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@felix.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
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>>
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Guillaume,
I'm still not convinced :)
Since a file name is usually unique since we are talking of the
combination of FileInstall and ConfigurationAdmin.
In this case I'd say the <factory.pid>-<service-pid> pattern could be used.
regards, Achim
2011/4/4 Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>:
> @Achim:
> This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
>
> @Carlos:
> Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
> pid instead of factory based configurations?
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guillaume,
>>
>> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
>> PID is generated?
>> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>>
>> <quote>
>> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
>> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
>> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
>> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
>> to the factory PID.
>> </quote>
>>
>> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
>> unique PID.
>> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
>> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>>
>> just my 2 cents
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>>> no, that's not possible.
>>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>>> back to the file.
>>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>>
>>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>>
>>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>>
>>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>>
>>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>>
>>>> Any opinion?
>>>>
>>>> Carlos
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
@Achim:
This would not really guarantee a new unique PID if you can give it ...
@Carlos:
Not sure about the meta-type, but I suppose it should use the factory
pid instead of factory based configurations?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 22:59, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
> PID is generated?
> I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
>
> <quote>
> When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
> (ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
> created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
> for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
> to the factory PID.
> </quote>
>
> The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
> unique PID.
> From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
> unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
>
> just my 2 cents
>
> regards, Achim
>
>> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
>> no, that's not possible.
>> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
>> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
>> back to the file.
>> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>>
>>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>>
>>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>>
>>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>>
>>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>>
>>> Any opinion?
>>>
>>> Carlos
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Guillaume,
just because out of curiosity, where in the spec is it defined how the
PID is generated?
I just found the following in the current 4.2 spec:
<quote>
When a Configuration object for a Managed Service Factory is created
(ConfigurationAdmin.createFactoryConfiguration), a new unique PID is
created for this object by the Configuration Admin service. The scheme used
for this PID is defined by the Configuration Admin service and is unrelated
to the factory PID.
</quote>
The way I read this, that it is completely free on how to define this
unique PID.
>From my point of view in combination with the FileInstaller this newly
unique Service PID could be like Carlos suggested.
just my 2 cents
regards, Achim
> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
> no, that's not possible.
> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
> back to the file.
> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>
>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>
>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>
>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>
>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>
>> Any opinion?
>>
>> Carlos
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu>.
Hi
Thanks for the answer.
I don't really get why there is this behavior. I get that if you don't have a PID ConfigAdmin should generate one but why not being able to specify one is kind of strange.
For example with this behavior I cannot use the metatype which requires the PID be placed on the metatype.xml file
Carlos
On Apr 1, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
> no, that's not possible.
> However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
> property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
> back to the file.
> Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>>
>> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>>
>> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>>
>> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>>
>> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>>
>> Any opinion?
>>
>> Carlos
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Re: Settings Service PID with FileInstall
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
The ConfigAdmin spec specifies that the PID has to be generated, so
no, that's not possible.
However you can filter based on the file name, as an additional
property is added to the configuration to be able to easily link it
back to the file.
Look for the felix.fileinstall.filename property.
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 13:50, Carlos Quiroz <cq...@gemini.edu> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been using FileInstall to start and install my services using ManagedServiceFactories but one issue I find is that FileInstall ask ConfigAdmin an initial configuration which is set to a random UUID.
>
> Could be that FileInstall gets the pid from the file name like is getting the Factory PID? Like
>
> <factory.pid>-<service.pid>.cfg
>
> In the code, FileInstall is actually doing something like that parsing the filename but it doesn't use the service.pid part
>
> I think that would be quite useful as the Random UUID in PID makes it difficult to find specific services
>
> Any opinion?
>
> Carlos
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