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Posted to dev@sentry.apache.org by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@apache.org> on 2015/08/03 00:43:37 UTC
[DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Hello fellow developers,
It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good to
list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on what
features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas>page,
which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have jiras
filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
- We can have all items related to sentry integration with other components
in the Integration bucket.
- All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test bucket.
- And everything else falls into "core" category.
I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap. But
eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that way
too. Please checkout the wiki
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas>for
more details on jira labels.
@Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and file
jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking, we
can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more
clarity.
Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it
would be easy to track.
Regards!
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Posted by Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com>.
Thanks Sravya. I'll start a new thread on this.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>
wrote:
> That is a very good point Lenni! Yes, Sentry has evolved to be much more
> than an enforcing engine. I agree that we should discuss and revisit our
> vision statement to reflect the much broader impact of Sentry.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for putting this together Sravya, this is a great start. I like
> how
> > you treat quality and supportability as top level roadmap items. We
> should
> > also consider revising the Sentry "vision statement". We can then ensure
> > that roadmap items and new features align with the direction of the
> > project. Currently, our wiki states:
> >
> > "Apache Sentry is a system for enforcing fine grained role based
> > authorization to data and metadata stored on a Hadoop cluster."
> >
> > IMO, Sentry has evolved to be more than just a system for *enforcing*
> > authorization. It has become a standard for managing authorization policy
> > metadata and a platform for integrating RBAC into Hadoop and 3rd party
> > components. I don't want to convolute this thread by discuss both of
> these
> > topics at the same time, but I think they are closely related. I can
> start
> > a separate DISCUSS thread on the vision side of things.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lenni
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello fellow developers,
> > >
> > > It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good
> to
> > > list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on
> > what
> > > features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
> > >
> > > To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> > > >page,
> > > which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have
> > jiras
> > > filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
> > > - We can have all items related to sentry integration with other
> > components
> > > in the Integration bucket.
> > > - All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test
> > bucket.
> > > - And everything else falls into "core" category.
> > >
> > > I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap.
> > But
> > > eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that
> way
> > > too. Please checkout the wiki
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> > > >for
> > > more details on jira labels.
> > >
> > > @Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and
> > file
> > > jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking,
> we
> > > can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more
> > > clarity.
> > >
> > > Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it
> > > would be easy to track.
> > >
> > > Regards!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sravya Tirukkovalur
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Posted by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>.
That is a very good point Lenni! Yes, Sentry has evolved to be much more
than an enforcing engine. I agree that we should discuss and revisit our
vision statement to reflect the much broader impact of Sentry.
Thanks!
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Thanks for putting this together Sravya, this is a great start. I like how
> you treat quality and supportability as top level roadmap items. We should
> also consider revising the Sentry "vision statement". We can then ensure
> that roadmap items and new features align with the direction of the
> project. Currently, our wiki states:
>
> "Apache Sentry is a system for enforcing fine grained role based
> authorization to data and metadata stored on a Hadoop cluster."
>
> IMO, Sentry has evolved to be more than just a system for *enforcing*
> authorization. It has become a standard for managing authorization policy
> metadata and a platform for integrating RBAC into Hadoop and 3rd party
> components. I don't want to convolute this thread by discuss both of these
> topics at the same time, but I think they are closely related. I can start
> a separate DISCUSS thread on the vision side of things.
>
> Thanks,
> Lenni
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello fellow developers,
> >
> > It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good to
> > list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on
> what
> > features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
> >
> > To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki
> > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> > >page,
> > which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have
> jiras
> > filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
> > - We can have all items related to sentry integration with other
> components
> > in the Integration bucket.
> > - All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test
> bucket.
> > - And everything else falls into "core" category.
> >
> > I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap.
> But
> > eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that way
> > too. Please checkout the wiki
> > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> > >for
> > more details on jira labels.
> >
> > @Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and
> file
> > jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking, we
> > can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more
> > clarity.
> >
> > Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it
> > would be easy to track.
> >
> > Regards!
> >
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Posted by Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com>.
Thanks for putting this together Sravya, this is a great start. I like how
you treat quality and supportability as top level roadmap items. We should
also consider revising the Sentry "vision statement". We can then ensure
that roadmap items and new features align with the direction of the
project. Currently, our wiki states:
"Apache Sentry is a system for enforcing fine grained role based
authorization to data and metadata stored on a Hadoop cluster."
IMO, Sentry has evolved to be more than just a system for *enforcing*
authorization. It has become a standard for managing authorization policy
metadata and a platform for integrating RBAC into Hadoop and 3rd party
components. I don't want to convolute this thread by discuss both of these
topics at the same time, but I think they are closely related. I can start
a separate DISCUSS thread on the vision side of things.
Thanks,
Lenni
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hello fellow developers,
>
> It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good to
> list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on what
> features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
>
> To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> >page,
> which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have jiras
> filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
> - We can have all items related to sentry integration with other components
> in the Integration bucket.
> - All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test bucket.
> - And everything else falls into "core" category.
>
> I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap. But
> eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that way
> too. Please checkout the wiki
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> >for
> more details on jira labels.
>
> @Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and file
> jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking, we
> can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more
> clarity.
>
> Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it
> would be easy to track.
>
> Regards!
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Posted by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>.
Hi Colin,
Thanks for your input! Yes SENTRY-711 is related but it is not exactly the
same. That project ideas item is talking about direct user to privilege
mapping rather than user to role. And we should actually discuss if we need
both or either one of them by discussing the use case motivations. Will
start a separate [discuss] thread.
Thanks for bringing this up!
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Ma, Junjie <ju...@intel.com> wrote:
> Thanks to create the Roadmap page, it's convenient to track project's
> status.
> For the item "Allow privileges to be granted to users directly " in
> "Project Ideas", the SENTRY-711 is responsible to track it, we can add this
> JIRA to the "core" category.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sravya Tirukkovalur [mailto:sravya@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 6:44 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
>
> Hello fellow developers,
>
> It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good to
> list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on what
> features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
>
> To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> >page,
> which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have jiras
> filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
> - We can have all items related to sentry integration with other
> components in the Integration bucket.
> - All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test bucket.
> - And everything else falls into "core" category.
>
> I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap. But
> eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that way
> too. Please checkout the wiki <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas
> >for
> more details on jira labels.
>
> @Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and file
> jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking, we
> can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more
> clarity.
>
> Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it
> would be easy to track.
>
> Regards!
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur
RE: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Posted by "Ma, Junjie" <ju...@intel.com>.
Thanks to create the Roadmap page, it's convenient to track project's status.
For the item "Allow privileges to be granted to users directly " in "Project Ideas", the SENTRY-711 is responsible to track it, we can add this JIRA to the "core" category.
Best regards,
Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sravya Tirukkovalur [mailto:sravya@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 6:44 AM
To: dev
Subject: [DISCUSS] Roadmap discussions
Hello fellow developers,
It was discussed in some of our previous threads that it might be good to list our roadmap in a wiki. How about lets start with a discussion on what features we want to see in the future and possible project ideas.
To kick start the discussion I started this barebones wiki <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas>page,
which basically lists the current roadmap items , which already have jiras filed, bucketed into 3 categories: Core, Integration and Test.
- We can have all items related to sentry integration with other components in the Integration bucket.
- All Quality/ Test/ Supportability related jiras bucketed in Test bucket.
- And everything else falls into "core" category.
I propose using these buckets to make it easy to navigate our roadmap. But eventually if we think just a single label is sufficient I am ok that way too. Please checkout the wiki <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SENTRY/Sentry+Roadmap+and+ideas>for
more details on jira labels.
@Everyone: Please share your ideas for new features. Lets discuss and file jiras to track it. If the idea is too abstract or needs more thinking, we can just add them to the project ideas in the wiki until we get more clarity.
Please use [DISCUSS][ROADMAP] prefix for your email threads so that it would be easy to track.
Regards!