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Posted to users@netbeans.apache.org by Alex Orlov <oo...@mail.ru.INVALID> on 2021/05/20 07:17:07 UTC
Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Hello, all
I’ve read several times in NB mailing list that nb-javac is not a very good thing. So, could anyone say if I
should install plugin for NB 12.3 or not?
--
Best regards, Alex Orlov
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
And "Compile On Save", not sure if it works with NetBeans modules, or
whether that's really needed. But could be handy, I suppose.
Gj
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:13 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> nb-javac is applicable to the Java editor, which you use when developing
> NetBeans modules.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:02 PM Dragan Bjedov <dr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does 12.4 Beta 1 "Compile On Save" works with Netbeans Modules? In other
>> words do I need to install nb-javac to develop Netbeans Plugins?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> пет, 21. мај 2021. у 17:52 Torsten Römer <to...@luniks.net> је
>> написао/ла:
>>
>>> Yes, since 12.4 Beta 1 you can enable "Compile On Save" without
>>> installing nb-javac thanks to the new "vanilla javac" support.
>>>
>>> Or was nb-javac used for other features than CoS?
>>>
>>> Am Freitag, Mai 21, 2021 17:42 CEST, schrieb Will Hartung <
>>> willhartung@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Wait a minute, nb-javac is optional? I thought it was a Really Nice
>>> Thing, but we have to jump through the hoops for it because of the
>>> licensing.
>>>
>>> We don't need nb-javac?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> MSc Dragan Bjedov
>>
>>
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
nb-javac is applicable to the Java editor, which you use when developing
NetBeans modules.
Gj
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 3:02 PM Dragan Bjedov <dr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does 12.4 Beta 1 "Compile On Save" works with Netbeans Modules? In other
> words do I need to install nb-javac to develop Netbeans Plugins?
>
> Kind regards
>
> пет, 21. мај 2021. у 17:52 Torsten Römer <to...@luniks.net> је
> написао/ла:
>
>> Yes, since 12.4 Beta 1 you can enable "Compile On Save" without
>> installing nb-javac thanks to the new "vanilla javac" support.
>>
>> Or was nb-javac used for other features than CoS?
>>
>> Am Freitag, Mai 21, 2021 17:42 CEST, schrieb Will Hartung <
>> willhartung@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>> Wait a minute, nb-javac is optional? I thought it was a Really Nice
>> Thing, but we have to jump through the hoops for it because of the
>> licensing.
>>
>> We don't need nb-javac?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> MSc Dragan Bjedov
>
>
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Dragan Bjedov <dr...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
Does 12.4 Beta 1 "Compile On Save" works with Netbeans Modules? In other
words do I need to install nb-javac to develop Netbeans Plugins?
Kind regards
пет, 21. мај 2021. у 17:52 Torsten Römer <to...@luniks.net> је
написао/ла:
> Yes, since 12.4 Beta 1 you can enable "Compile On Save" without installing
> nb-javac thanks to the new "vanilla javac" support.
>
> Or was nb-javac used for other features than CoS?
>
> Am Freitag, Mai 21, 2021 17:42 CEST, schrieb Will Hartung <
> willhartung@gmail.com>:
>
>
> Wait a minute, nb-javac is optional? I thought it was a Really Nice Thing,
> but we have to jump through the hoops for it because of the licensing.
>
> We don't need nb-javac?
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
MSc Dragan Bjedov
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Torsten Römer <to...@luniks.net>.
Yes, since 12.4 Beta 1 you can enable "Compile On Save" without installing nb-javac thanks to the new "vanilla javac" support.
Or was nb-javac used for other features than CoS?
Am Freitag, Mai 21, 2021 17:42 CEST, schrieb Will Hartung <wi...@gmail.com>:
Wait a minute, nb-javac is optional? I thought it was a Really Nice Thing, but we have to jump through the hoops for it because of the licensing. We don't need nb-javac?
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Will Hartung <wi...@gmail.com>.
Wait a minute, nb-javac is optional? I thought it was a Really Nice Thing,
but we have to jump through the hoops for it because of the licensing.
We don't need nb-javac?
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Yes for hot code reload. NetBeans just compiles the required classes
either with the used build tool.
If you happen to enable CoS, then some build tools can use shortcuts,
not to invoke a lengthy build process, but that's it.
On 5/20/21 1:14 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 08:47, Andreas Reichel
> <an...@manticore-projects.com> wrote:
>> What about "Compile and Save"?
>>
>> Personally I find this one of the most important features of Netbeans, especially when changing code hot while debugging?
> Pretty sure you don't need Compile on Save enabled to allow hot code
> reload in debugging - I disable CoS in every project.
>
> There are other reasons to use nb-javac though - it's worth
> considering eg.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Differences%3A+nb-javac
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 08:47, Andreas Reichel
<an...@manticore-projects.com> wrote:
> What about "Compile and Save"?
>
> Personally I find this one of the most important features of Netbeans, especially when changing code hot while debugging?
Pretty sure you don't need Compile on Save enabled to allow hot code
reload in debugging - I disable CoS in every project.
There are other reasons to use nb-javac though - it's worth
considering eg.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Differences%3A+nb-javac
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Yes, that's a reason to use nb-javac.
Gj
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:47 AM Andreas Reichel <
andreas@manticore-projects.com> wrote:
> What about "Compile and Save"?
>
>
> Personally I find this one of the most important features of Netbeans,
> especially when changing code hot while debugging?
>
> Best regards
> Andreas
>
>
> On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 09:37 +0200, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> If you're running on a JDK later than JDK 8, don't install it unless you
> have a specific reason to do so.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alex Orlov <oo...@mail.ru.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> Hello, all
>
> I’ve read several times in NB mailing list that nb-javac is not a very
> good thing. So, could anyone say if I
> should install plugin for NB 12.3 or not?
>
> --
> Best regards, Alex Orlov
>
>
>
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Torsten Römer <to...@luniks.net>.
I'd recommend to use 12.4 Beta 1 since it includes Compile on Save support for vanilla javac.
Even if you ignore to install nb-javac you can enable "Compile on Save" - it works just fine for me also in large projects where nb-javac caused quite some trouble.
Am Donnerstag, Mai 20, 2021 09:46 CEST, schrieb Andreas Reichel <an...@manticore-projects.com>:
What about "Compile and Save"? Personally I find this one of the most important features of Netbeans, especially when changing code hot while debugging? Best regardsAndreas On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 09:37 +0200, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:If you're running on a JDK later than JDK 8, don't install it unless you have a specific reason to do so. Gj On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alex Orlov <oo...@mail.ru.invalid> wrote:Hello, all I’ve read several times in NB mailing list that nb-javac is not a very good thing. So, could anyone say if Ishould install plugin for NB 12.3 or not? --
Best regards, Alex Orlov
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Andreas Reichel <an...@manticore-projects.com>.
What about "Compile and Save"?
Personally I find this one of the most important features of Netbeans,
especially when changing code hot while debugging?
Best regards
Andreas
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 09:37 +0200, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> If you're running on a JDK later than JDK 8, don't install it unless
> you have a specific reason to do so.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alex Orlov
> <oo...@mail.ru.invalid> wrote:
> > Hello, all
> >
> > I’ve read several times in NB mailing list that nb-javac is not a
> > very good thing. So, could anyone say if I
> > should install plugin for NB 12.3 or not?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards, Alex Orlov
Re: Should I install nb-javac plugin?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
If you're running on a JDK later than JDK 8, don't install it unless you
have a specific reason to do so.
Gj
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alex Orlov <oo...@mail.ru.invalid>
wrote:
> Hello, all
>
> I’ve read several times in NB mailing list that nb-javac is not a very
> good thing. So, could anyone say if I
> should install plugin for NB 12.3 or not?
>
> --
> Best regards, Alex Orlov
>