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Posted to dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org by Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com> on 2020/06/14 12:04:17 UTC
[QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
Hi all
My question is:
Why doesn't the front end of DS choose a front end extension framework?
I personally understand that the current positioning of DS is a workflow scheduling engine of big data, which means that its main users are oriented to enterprise-level big data departments. As far as I understand, many companies in China are using the combination of VUE + elementUI / iview to develop the front end of the internal workflow scheduling engine. I do not investigate abroad.
But I can think of a few reasons for not using the front-end extension framework:
1. Internationalization, elementUI / iview is currently only popular in China, there are other options abroad;
2. The front-end extension framework will complicate ds.
But personally understand the benefits of using the front-end extension framework:
1. The front-end development and maintenance are very convenient, and the UI is beautiful;
2. User can develop second-time conveniently based on the current front-end expansion. Currently elementUI / iview also supports internationalization.
Best,
Yichao Yang
回复： [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
Posted by Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com>.
Hi
Can you offer the front-end framework docs? Thx a lot. I think I need to develop by standardized front-end docs.
Best,
Yichao Yang
------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
发件人: "lidong dai"<dailidong66@gmail.com>;
发送时间: 2020年6月15日(星期一) 下午2:22
收件人: "dev"<dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org>;
主题: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
hi,
we not use element-ui/iview, because we have our own front-end framework,
it's also open source
Best Regards
---------------
DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
Lidong Dai 代立冬
dailidong66@gmail.com
---------------
Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:43写道：
> Yichao Yang <1048262223@qq.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:33写道：
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > I have checked the license of elementui and vue license before. It is the
> > same of MIT. So I do not mention this as a unchoose reason&nbsp;in my
> > question. Please give me suggestiones if I was wrong.
> >
>
> It is not the project license itself. They are both good.
> In a release tar(let's say it is a release so far, even it is not accurate
> in ASF), we need all libs, such as all libs element UI imported and used.
>
>
> >
> >
> > I understand what you mean is two points:
> >
> >
> > First, you think the extand work is belong to user of ds.
> > Second, I do not understand clearly.&nbsp;What you concern about is that
> > the extend framework e.g elementui / iview will depend on other front-end
> > framework that you do not know the license？
> >
>
> I don't know which libs they are depending, that is the work. NOTICE, I am
> not saying this is a block, but workload requires time and people.
>
> Also, notice, this is not my decision, this should be the PPMC team. I just
> share the idea from my understanding, as I was/am being a release manager
> and doing IPMC release check so many times.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> >
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 我之前已经查过vue和elementui的license了，都是MIT，所以在之前的提问中我没有提到这一点，因为我理解这个不是不选择前端扩展框架的原因。如果我的理解有问题敬请指出。
> >
> >
> > 我理解你是有两点担心：
> > 第一个是选择elementui等扩展框架应该是具体使用方去选择和开发的，而不是框架维护者；
> >
> >
> > 第二个我理解的不是很清楚。你担心的是elementui或者iview可能会依赖别的前端扩展框架，但是你不清楚被依赖的框架的license吗？
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Yichao Yang
> >
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From: Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com&gt;
> > Date: Sun,Jun 14,2020 8:14 PM
> > To: dev <dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org&gt;
> > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does
> > not use element-ui / iview
>
回复： [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
Posted by Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com>.
Hi
Thx a lot, I've find ans-ui in doc and source code.
Best,
Yichao Yang
------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
发件人: "lidong dai"<dailidong66@gmail.com>;
发送时间: 2020年6月15日(星期一) 下午2:22
收件人: "dev"<dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org>;
主题: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
hi,
we not use element-ui/iview, because we have our own front-end framework,
it's also open source
Best Regards
---------------
DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
Lidong Dai 代立冬
dailidong66@gmail.com
---------------
Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:43写道：
> Yichao Yang <1048262223@qq.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:33写道：
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > I have checked the license of elementui and vue license before. It is the
> > same of MIT. So I do not mention this as a unchoose reason&nbsp;in my
> > question. Please give me suggestiones if I was wrong.
> >
>
> It is not the project license itself. They are both good.
> In a release tar(let's say it is a release so far, even it is not accurate
> in ASF), we need all libs, such as all libs element UI imported and used.
>
>
> >
> >
> > I understand what you mean is two points:
> >
> >
> > First, you think the extand work is belong to user of ds.
> > Second, I do not understand clearly.&nbsp;What you concern about is that
> > the extend framework e.g elementui / iview will depend on other front-end
> > framework that you do not know the license？
> >
>
> I don't know which libs they are depending, that is the work. NOTICE, I am
> not saying this is a block, but workload requires time and people.
>
> Also, notice, this is not my decision, this should be the PPMC team. I just
> share the idea from my understanding, as I was/am being a release manager
> and doing IPMC release check so many times.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> >
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 我之前已经查过vue和elementui的license了，都是MIT，所以在之前的提问中我没有提到这一点，因为我理解这个不是不选择前端扩展框架的原因。如果我的理解有问题敬请指出。
> >
> >
> > 我理解你是有两点担心：
> > 第一个是选择elementui等扩展框架应该是具体使用方去选择和开发的，而不是框架维护者；
> >
> >
> > 第二个我理解的不是很清楚。你担心的是elementui或者iview可能会依赖别的前端扩展框架，但是你不清楚被依赖的框架的license吗？
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Yichao Yang
> >
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From: Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com&gt;
> > Date: Sun,Jun 14,2020 8:14 PM
> > To: dev <dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org&gt;
> > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does
> > not use element-ui / iview
>
Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not
use element-ui / iview
Posted by lidong dai <da...@gmail.com>.
hi,
we not use element-ui/iview, because we have our own front-end framework,
it's also open source
Best Regards
---------------
DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
Lidong Dai 代立冬
dailidong66@gmail.com
---------------
Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:43写道：
> Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:33写道：
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > I have checked the license of elementui and vue license before. It is the
> > same of MIT. So I do not mention this as a unchoose reason in my
> > question. Please give me suggestiones if I was wrong.
> >
>
> It is not the project license itself. They are both good.
> In a release tar(let's say it is a release so far, even it is not accurate
> in ASF), we need all libs, such as all libs element UI imported and used.
>
>
> >
> >
> > I understand what you mean is two points:
> >
> >
> > First, you think the extand work is belong to user of ds.
> > Second, I do not understand clearly. What you concern about is that
> > the extend framework e.g elementui / iview will depend on other front-end
> > framework that you do not know the license？
> >
>
> I don't know which libs they are depending, that is the work. NOTICE, I am
> not saying this is a block, but workload requires time and people.
>
> Also, notice, this is not my decision, this should be the PPMC team. I just
> share the idea from my understanding, as I was/am being a release manager
> and doing IPMC release check so many times.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> >
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 我之前已经查过vue和elementui的license了，都是MIT，所以在之前的提问中我没有提到这一点，因为我理解这个不是不选择前端扩展框架的原因。如果我的理解有问题敬请指出。
> >
> >
> > 我理解你是有两点担心：
> > 第一个是选择elementui等扩展框架应该是具体使用方去选择和开发的，而不是框架维护者；
> >
> >
> > 第二个我理解的不是很清楚。你担心的是elementui或者iview可能会依赖别的前端扩展框架，但是你不清楚被依赖的框架的license吗？
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Yichao Yang
> >
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From: Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun,Jun 14,2020 8:14 PM
> > To: dev <dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does
> > not use element-ui / iview
>
Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not
use element-ui / iview
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:33写道：
> Hi
>
>
> I have checked the license of elementui and vue license before. It is the
> same of MIT. So I do not mention this as a unchoose reason in my
> question. Please give me suggestiones if I was wrong.
>
It is not the project license itself. They are both good.
In a release tar(let's say it is a release so far, even it is not accurate
in ASF), we need all libs, such as all libs element UI imported and used.
>
>
> I understand what you mean is two points:
>
>
> First, you think the extand work is belong to user of ds.
> Second, I do not understand clearly. What you concern about is that
> the extend framework e.g elementui / iview will depend on other front-end
> framework that you do not know the license？
>
I don't know which libs they are depending, that is the work. NOTICE, I am
not saying this is a block, but workload requires time and people.
Also, notice, this is not my decision, this should be the PPMC team. I just
share the idea from my understanding, as I was/am being a release manager
and doing IPMC release check so many times.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> --------------------
>
>
>
> 我之前已经查过vue和elementui的license了，都是MIT，所以在之前的提问中我没有提到这一点，因为我理解这个不是不选择前端扩展框架的原因。如果我的理解有问题敬请指出。
>
>
> 我理解你是有两点担心：
> 第一个是选择elementui等扩展框架应该是具体使用方去选择和开发的，而不是框架维护者；
>
>
> 第二个我理解的不是很清楚。你担心的是elementui或者iview可能会依赖别的前端扩展框架，但是你不清楚被依赖的框架的license吗？
>
>
> Best,
> Yichao Yang
>
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From: Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun,Jun 14,2020 8:14 PM
> To: dev <dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does
> not use element-ui / iview
Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
Posted by Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com>.
Hi
I have checked the license of elementui and vue license before. It is the same of MIT. So I do not mention this as a unchoose reason in my question. Please give me suggestiones if I was wrong.
I understand what you mean is two points:
First, you think the extand work is belong to user of ds.
Second, I do not understand clearly. What you concern about is that the extend framework e.g elementui / iview will depend on other front-end framework that you do not know the license？
--------------------
我之前已经查过vue和elementui的license了，都是MIT，所以在之前的提问中我没有提到这一点，因为我理解这个不是不选择前端扩展框架的原因。如果我的理解有问题敬请指出。
我理解你是有两点担心：
第一个是选择elementui等扩展框架应该是具体使用方去选择和开发的，而不是框架维护者；
第二个我理解的不是很清楚。你担心的是elementui或者iview可能会依赖别的前端扩展框架，但是你不清楚被依赖的框架的license吗？
Best,
Yichao Yang
------------------ Original ------------------
From: Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841108@gmail.com>
Date: Sun,Jun 14,2020 8:14 PM
To: dev <dev@dolphinscheduler.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not use element-ui / iview
Re: [QUESTION] Why the front-end framework chooses Vue but does not
use element-ui / iview
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Yichao Yang <10...@qq.com> 于2020年6月14日周日 下午8:04写道：
> Hi all
>
>
> My question is:
> Why doesn't the front end of DS choose a front end extension framework?
>
>
> I personally understand that the current positioning of DS is a
> workflow scheduling engine of big data, which means that its main users are
> oriented to enterprise-level big data departments. As far as I understand,
> many companies in China are using the combination of VUE + elementUI /
> iview to develop the front end of the internal workflow scheduling engine.
> I do not investigate abroad.
>
>
> But I can think of a few reasons for not using the front-end extension
> framework:
> 1. Internationalization, elementUI / iview is currently only popular in
> China, there are other options abroad;
> 2. The front-end extension framework will complicate ds.
>
Personally, NOT from a mentor perspective, this is a pure dev team
decision, not a tech or in/out China.
The only thing I know is, being clear of ElementUI LICENSE, especially its
dependencies, is not easy work.
Sheng
>
>
> But personally understand the benefits of using the front-end extension
> framework:
> 1. The front-end development and maintenance are very convenient, and the
> UI is beautiful;
> 2. User can develop second-time conveniently based on the current
> front-end expansion. Currently elementUI / iview also supports
> internationalization.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Yichao Yang