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> On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Jim McLachlan <ji...@oss-ltd.com> wrote:
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> Sorry, I did a direct reply instead of a reply to the list. I hope this corrects that.
>
> Hi KAM,
>
> You're confused Not as much as me. I'm completely baffled
>
> I've posted my master.cf to http://pasted.co/ba783cac just in case that might be useful.
>
> It looks like my mail.* logs are rotated weekly. I'll change that so they're rotated daily. That will certainly help, but I'm sure it would be good for the disk and CPU if I can reduce the amount of data being logged.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Jim.
>
>
>> On 04/04/17 23:55, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2017 6:42 PM, Jim McLachlan wrote:
>>> amavis 1680 1 0 2016 ? 00:01:40 /usr/sbin/amavisd-new (master)
>>> amavis 10898 1680 0 17:29 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/amavisd-new (ch7-avail)
>>> amavis 15292 1680 0 22:16 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/amavisd-new (ch1-avail)
>>> postfix 15337 7599 0 22:19 ? 00:00:00 smtp -n amavis -t unix -u -o
>>> smtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes -o
>>> disable_dns_lookups=yes -o max_use=20
>>> amavis 15344 1680 0 22:19 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/amavisd-new (ch1-avail)
>>>
>>>
>>> I've posted the spamfilter.sh file to http://pasted.co/7b794ccd
>>>
>>> I don't see anything in there about verbose logging
>>
>> Quick points:
>>
>> 1 - The verbose logging (which I don't think is the issue) would be in your
>> postfix master.cf indicated by -v on smtpd. Reviewing the log snippet, I saw
>> nothing that looked like too much logging, anything looping, etc.
>>
>> 2 - I am confused if you have amavis why you would also have spamfilter.sh. I
>> don't use amavisd-new but I'm sure some here do and can comment.
>>
>> Regards,
>> KAM
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RE: Unsubscribe
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Bret Miller wrote:
> True that, but it's not entirely obvious how to view the message headers in many of today's mail clients. Of course, if you're on this list, you'd think you'd understand where to find them...
My MUA recognizes them and exposes them to the user as a link:
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Re: Unsubscribe
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On 05/04/2017, 20:26, "Bret Miller" <br...@gci.org> wrote:
>On 4/5/2017 11:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
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>Actually, they don't. Most mailing lists I subscribe to contain an
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>> common sense: how and why do you imagine that 1000, 2000 or how much
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>I don't. I'm just playing the other side here. Techies like us tend to
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>isn't these days, the people who "just know" stuff are fewer.
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>The technology world has changed. Many people are used to graphical
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>could read it. I know there should be a higher expectation on this list.
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Blocking administrivia (was Re: Unsubscribe)
Posted by Dianne Skoll <df...@roaringpenguin.com>.
On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:26:56 -0700
Bret Miller <br...@gci.org> wrote:
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> I would never send an unsubscribe to a list because I know it's bad
> etiquette, just like I know that typing in all caps is "shouting".
> But people do it all the time without meaning to offend anyone.
I wonder if technology exists that could detect and stop such messages?
Wouldn't such technology be amazing? If only someone would come up with
it.
:P
Regards,
Dianne.
Re: Unsubscribe
Posted by Bret Miller <br...@gci.org>.
On 4/5/2017 11:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> * when you subscribe you get a welcome message
> * that message explains it and says "keep me stored"
> * HOW did you subscribe? the same way you unsubscribe
And if I subscribed 2 years ago, do you honestly think I remember how I
subscribed?
> * every mailing list on this planet works the same way
Actually, they don't. Most mailing lists I subscribe to contain an
unsubscribe link at the bottom of the message.
> common sense: how and why do you imagine that 1000, 2000 or how much
> subscribers a list has handle your request?
I don't. I'm just playing the other side here. Techies like us tend to
be unfriendly about the way we communicate. We also expect people to
just know stuff. But for people who are doing multiple jobs, and who
isn't these days, the people who "just know" stuff are fewer.
I would never send an unsubscribe to a list because I know it's bad
etiquette, just like I know that typing in all caps is "shouting". But
people do it all the time without meaning to offend anyone.
The technology world has changed. Many people are used to graphical
interfaces and haven't the slightest idea how to run anything from the
command line. Many of them have never seen a message header, let alone
could read it. I know there should be a higher expectation on this list.
But would it be so bad to add a footer that says how to unsubscribe?
It would be more friendly. And it would help people not offend others.
Just saying...
RE: Unsubscribe
Posted by Bret Miller <br...@gci.org>.
True that, but it's not entirely obvious how to view the message headers in many of today's mail clients. Of course, if you're on this list, you'd think you'd understand where to find them...
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Re: Unsubscribe
Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017, junk@lexoncom.com wrote:
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