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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com> on 2011/09/02 19:47:38 UTC
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On 2011-09-02 11:30 AM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Will this list also be available using Gmane?
>>
> I do not believe that occurs by default for Apache mailing lists.
> There was some concern expressed before, I know, about the mangled
> subject lines and its impact on threading. I'd recommend discussing
> this on the users list and see if there a consensus one way or
> another.
There is a long list of Apache mailing lists available through Gmane. The mangled subject
lines are the result of a choice made when this list was set up on Gmane and that choice can be
changed.
Most newsreaders have no problem with the threading.
Many of us giving support on the users list use Gmane. I, for one, do not subscribe to any
email support lists. I only use Gmane for giving support and for reading large volume lists.
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Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2011-09-02 1:14 PM Tony Stevenson wrote:
> On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:00, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>
>> Their subscribe page http://gmane.org/subscribe.php also states "Please do not subscribe lists that don't want to be carried by Gmane." That has not been decided by this project yet.
> Well, if no one raises any concerns in next 72 hours, just go and add the list. If the project wants to then be removed, I'm sure that can be arranged too.
> In other words, follow a CTR process for this.
On users@openoffice.org Dennis wrote " It would be better if you had one of the Apache PPMC do
it (i.e., any
of the committers)."
Too much contradictory advice on this project, in my opinion.
My two suggestions for Gmane settings:
1. Posting permissions √ Posting allowed (default)
2. Encrypt addresses do not check this box unless you want Dennis upset about subjects getting
munged
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_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Tony Stevenson <pc...@apache.org>.
On 2 Sep 2011, at 20:00, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> Their subscribe page http://gmane.org/subscribe.php also states "Please do not subscribe lists that don't want to be carried by Gmane." That has not been decided by this project yet.
Well, if no one raises any concerns in next 72 hours, just go and add the list. If the project wants to then be removed, I'm sure that can be arranged too.
In other words, follow a CTR process for this.
Tony
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tony@caret.cam.ac.uk
http://blog.pc-tony.com
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Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2011-09-02 12:28 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> I meant, what is required to get ooo-users on Gmane. Does this
> require anything from the ooo-users moderators, or can this be done by
> you, since this is a public mailing list that anyone can subscribe to,
It is probably best done by a contributor to this project. There are options, such as the
encryption of email addresses, allowing of posting through list by everyone or only subscribers
to the mailing list or by no one that I would not feel comfortable deciding on behalf of the
project. I know my preferences but they may not be the same as the projects preferences.
Their subscribe page http://gmane.org/subscribe.php also states "Please do not subscribe lists
that don't want to be carried by Gmane." That has not been decided by this project yet.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2011-09-02 12:08 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a long list of Apache mailing lists available through Gmane.
>>> The
>>> mangled subject lines are the result of a choice made when this list was
>>> set
>>> up on Gmane and that choice can be changed.
>>>
>> It is a public list, so anyone can subscribe to it. Do you need any
>> list moderator assistance for this? If sow, how do we do it right and
>> avoid the mangled titles?
>
> What are you referring to as "a public list", the Apache mailing lists or
> the Gmane newsfeed. I do not need moderator assistance to subscribe to
> either.
>
I meant, what is required to get ooo-users on Gmane. Does this
require anything from the ooo-users moderators, or can this be done by
you, since this is a public mailing list that anyone can subscribe to,
> Or are you referring to getting a mail list carried by Gmane? If so, there
> were several options regarding how email addresses are protected to prevent
> harvesting. The mangled addresses was what was chosen for this list. (It is
> the only list I follow through Gmane that does this).
>
> It can be changed by someone with the authority to do so.
>
> This issue was discussed earlier on this list in one of the threads about
> mangled subjects. Someone posted details on Gmane options. Nobody seems to
> have done anything about it.
>
> Until this is changed in the Gmane setup, there is a simple way to prevent
> mangled subject lines. Don't put an email address in the subject line.
>
> --
> _________________________________
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>
Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2011-09-02 12:08 PM Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a long list of Apache mailing lists available through Gmane. The
>> mangled subject lines are the result of a choice made when this list was set
>> up on Gmane and that choice can be changed.
>>
> It is a public list, so anyone can subscribe to it. Do you need any
> list moderator assistance for this? If sow, how do we do it right and
> avoid the mangled titles?
What are you referring to as "a public list", the Apache mailing lists or the Gmane newsfeed. I
do not need moderator assistance to subscribe to either.
Or are you referring to getting a mail list carried by Gmane? If so, there were several options
regarding how email addresses are protected to prevent harvesting. The mangled addresses was
what was chosen for this list. (It is the only list I follow through Gmane that does this).
It can be changed by someone with the authority to do so.
This issue was discussed earlier on this list in one of the threads about mangled subjects.
Someone posted details on Gmane options. Nobody seems to have done anything about it.
Until this is changed in the Gmane setup, there is a simple way to prevent mangled subject
lines. Don't put an email address in the subject line.
--
_________________________________
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-users-d1GL8uUpDdXTxqt0kkDzDmD2FQJk+8+b-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2011-09-02 11:30 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Larry Gusaas<la...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will this list also be available using Gmane?
>>>
>> I do not believe that occurs by default for Apache mailing lists.
>> There was some concern expressed before, I know, about the mangled
>> subject lines and its impact on threading. I'd recommend discussing
>> this on the users list and see if there a consensus one way or
>> another.
>
> There is a long list of Apache mailing lists available through Gmane. The
> mangled subject lines are the result of a choice made when this list was set
> up on Gmane and that choice can be changed.
>
It is a public list, so anyone can subscribe to it. Do you need any
list moderator assistance for this? If sow, how do we do it right and
avoid the mangled titles?
> Most newsreaders have no problem with the threading.
>
> Many of us giving support on the users list use Gmane. I, for one, do not
> subscribe to any email support lists. I only use Gmane for giving support
> and for reading large volume lists.
>
> --
> _________________________________
>
> Larry I. Gusaas
> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>