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How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other approach

Hi..
I'm looking for a modular system architecture.
When I start a JSF-project, the framework gives me the possibility to 
develop a software in one package.
How is it possible to start a project that can be a part of system with 
different modules.
Example: I have a base module. When it starts, this base module looks in 
my deploy folder for other war-projects and when it finds
a certain war file, it offers the possiblity to starts this project.
I haven't any idea how it can be possible and where should I look for 
more information and which technic can be used to make it possible.
I'm deeply grateful for any motivations and ideas!
thx
naba

Re: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other approach

Posted by NABA <na...@gmx.net>.
I don't think that protals are special technic.
The development of portals is based on the architecture of the systemdesign.
It doesn't give us a special technic or a framwork to integrate 
different functions.

> Maybe you should look at portals
>
> 2007/11/17, NABA <naba.nabou@gmx.net <ma...@gmx.net>>:
>
>     Hi Neil...
>     At first, I'm student and my english is not so good..
>     I m trying to understand how is it possible to develop software
>     modular.
>     Which technics are given!
>     In my experience: mostly when big software-projects starts the people
>     try to get a view about the whole problem!
>     And the software-deveopment-process starts to develop the system with
>     the whole extent of complexity and difficutlties.
>     You will have so many vantages when you separate your system in
>     modules.
>     It is not always possible, but when it is possible, it should be done.
>     At this time I'm working on a project. We develop a system which shold
>     help industries to manage facilities.
>     > 1) What platform are you using/considering?  Tomcat?  JBoss?
>     >
>     I m using
>     MyFaces 1.5
>     JBoss 4.2.X
>     > 2) How much do you understand about servlets, JSPs and web
>     applications?
>     >
>     This is my first job, who I m working on a web-project!!
>     I never didn't  work with servlets!! But I understand basically how
>     jsf-works and I m working with it.
>     I m working with EJBs3.0 too.
>     > 3) What other technologies do you know?  What's "wrong" with them?
>     >
>     All my jobs before, they was softwaredeveloping for standalone
>     applications. c++, java, vb and so on..
>     The approach of stanalone is not the same like web-projects.
>     > 4) What are you trying to do?  Are you a manager?  A professional
>     > developer?  A student?
>     >
>     I would like be professional developer and I m working on it :-)
>     I'm trying to undersatnd how is it possible to implement a System
>     separated in modules. Which technics can be used there.
>     I'm not looking for a system architecture. It is clear, that the
>     system
>     architecture, should implement this. But which technics can be used to
>     implement such architecture.
>
>     I hope I described my request so that you can understand it.
>
>     thx for help..
>     naba
>
>
>
>     > A useful place to start would be googling for "jsp tutorial" or
>     "jsp
>     > tutorial sun" or "servlet tutorial" or "JSF tutorial sun".
>     >
>     > Good luck,
>     >
>     > Neil
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: NABA [mailto: naba.nabou@gmx.net <ma...@gmx.net>]
>     > Sent: November 16, 2007 11:21 AM
>     > To: MyFaces Discussion
>     > Subject: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF
>     or other
>     > approach
>     >
>     > Hi..
>     > I'm looking for a modular system architecture.
>     > When I start a JSF-project, the framework gives me the
>     possibility to
>     > develop a software in one package.
>     > How is it possible to start a project that can be a part of
>     system with
>     > different modules.
>     > Example: I have a base module. When it starts, this base module
>     looks in
>     >
>     > my deploy folder for other war-projects and when it finds
>     > a certain war file, it offers the possiblity to starts this
>     project.
>     > I haven't any idea how it can be possible and where should I
>     look for
>     > more information and which technic can be used to make it possible.
>     > I'm deeply grateful for any motivations and ideas!
>     > thx
>     > naba
>     >
>     >
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards
> Adrian Mitev 


Re: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other approach

Posted by Adrian Mitev <ad...@googlemail.com>.
Maybe you should look at portals

2007/11/17, NABA <na...@gmx.net>:
>
> Hi Neil...
> At first, I'm student and my english is not so good..
> I m trying to understand how is it possible to develop software modular.
> Which technics are given!
> In my experience: mostly when big software-projects starts the people
> try to get a view about the whole problem!
> And the software-deveopment-process starts to develop the system with
> the whole extent of complexity and difficutlties.
> You will have so many vantages when you separate your system in modules.
> It is not always possible, but when it is possible, it should be done.
> At this time I'm working on a project. We develop a system which shold
> help industries to manage facilities.
> > 1) What platform are you using/considering?  Tomcat?  JBoss?
> >
> I m using
> MyFaces 1.5
> JBoss 4.2.X
> > 2) How much do you understand about servlets, JSPs and web applications?
> >
> This is my first job, who I m working on a web-project!!
> I never didn't  work with servlets!! But I understand basically how
> jsf-works and I m working with it.
> I m working with EJBs3.0 too.
> > 3) What other technologies do you know?  What's "wrong" with them?
> >
> All my jobs before, they was softwaredeveloping for standalone
> applications. c++, java, vb and so on..
> The approach of stanalone is not the same like web-projects.
> > 4) What are you trying to do?  Are you a manager?  A professional
> > developer?  A student?
> >
> I would like be professional developer and I m working on it :-)
> I'm trying to undersatnd how is it possible to implement a System
> separated in modules. Which technics can be used there.
> I'm not looking for a system architecture. It is clear, that the system
> architecture, should implement this. But which technics can be used to
> implement such architecture.
>
> I hope I described my request so that you can understand it.
>
> thx for help..
> naba
>
>
>
> > A useful place to start would be googling for "jsp tutorial" or "jsp
> > tutorial sun" or "servlet tutorial" or "JSF tutorial sun".
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NABA [mailto:naba.nabou@gmx.net]
> > Sent: November 16, 2007 11:21 AM
> > To: MyFaces Discussion
> > Subject: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other
> > approach
> >
> > Hi..
> > I'm looking for a modular system architecture.
> > When I start a JSF-project, the framework gives me the possibility to
> > develop a software in one package.
> > How is it possible to start a project that can be a part of system with
> > different modules.
> > Example: I have a base module. When it starts, this base module looks in
> >
> > my deploy folder for other war-projects and when it finds
> > a certain war file, it offers the possiblity to starts this project.
> > I haven't any idea how it can be possible and where should I look for
> > more information and which technic can be used to make it possible.
> > I'm deeply grateful for any motivations and ideas!
> > thx
> > naba
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Regards
Adrian Mitev

Re: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other approach

Posted by NABA <na...@gmx.net>.
Hi Neil...
At first, I'm student and my english is not so good..
I m trying to understand how is it possible to develop software modular.
Which technics are given!
In my experience: mostly when big software-projects starts the people 
try to get a view about the whole problem!
And the software-deveopment-process starts to develop the system with 
the whole extent of complexity and difficutlties.
You will have so many vantages when you separate your system in modules. 
It is not always possible, but when it is possible, it should be done.
At this time I'm working on a project. We develop a system which shold 
help industries to manage facilities.
> 1) What platform are you using/considering?  Tomcat?  JBoss?
>   
I m using
MyFaces 1.5
JBoss 4.2.X
> 2) How much do you understand about servlets, JSPs and web applications?
>   
This is my first job, who I m working on a web-project!!
I never didn't  work with servlets!! But I understand basically how 
jsf-works and I m working with it.
I m working with EJBs3.0 too.
> 3) What other technologies do you know?  What's "wrong" with them?
>   
All my jobs before, they was softwaredeveloping for standalone 
applications. c++, java, vb and so on..
The approach of stanalone is not the same like web-projects.
> 4) What are you trying to do?  Are you a manager?  A professional
> developer?  A student? 
>   
I would like be professional developer and I m working on it :-)
I'm trying to undersatnd how is it possible to implement a System 
separated in modules. Which technics can be used there.
I'm not looking for a system architecture. It is clear, that the system 
architecture, should implement this. But which technics can be used to 
implement such architecture.

I hope I described my request so that you can understand it.

thx for help..
naba



> A useful place to start would be googling for "jsp tutorial" or "jsp
> tutorial sun" or "servlet tutorial" or "JSF tutorial sun".
>
> Good luck,
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NABA [mailto:naba.nabou@gmx.net] 
> Sent: November 16, 2007 11:21 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other
> approach
>
> Hi..
> I'm looking for a modular system architecture.
> When I start a JSF-project, the framework gives me the possibility to 
> develop a software in one package.
> How is it possible to start a project that can be a part of system with 
> different modules.
> Example: I have a base module. When it starts, this base module looks in
>
> my deploy folder for other war-projects and when it finds
> a certain war file, it offers the possiblity to starts this project.
> I haven't any idea how it can be possible and where should I look for 
> more information and which technic can be used to make it possible.
> I'm deeply grateful for any motivations and ideas!
> thx
> naba
>
>   


RE: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other approach

Posted by Neil Pitman <ne...@mahjongmania.com>.
What?

I cannot understand what you mean by "module" "package" "project"
"framework". The description of program launch does not match with my
understanding of web applications

As an aid to understanding your question, please provide the following:
1) What platform are you using/considering?  Tomcat?  JBoss?
2) How much do you understand about servlets, JSPs and web applications?
3) What other technologies do you know?  What's "wrong" with them?
4) What are you trying to do?  Are you a manager?  A professional
developer?  A student? 

A useful place to start would be googling for "jsp tutorial" or "jsp
tutorial sun" or "servlet tutorial" or "JSF tutorial sun".

Good luck,

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: NABA [mailto:naba.nabou@gmx.net] 
Sent: November 16, 2007 11:21 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: How is it possible to build a modular Project with JSF or other
approach

Hi..
I'm looking for a modular system architecture.
When I start a JSF-project, the framework gives me the possibility to 
develop a software in one package.
How is it possible to start a project that can be a part of system with 
different modules.
Example: I have a base module. When it starts, this base module looks in

my deploy folder for other war-projects and when it finds
a certain war file, it offers the possiblity to starts this project.
I haven't any idea how it can be possible and where should I look for 
more information and which technic can be used to make it possible.
I'm deeply grateful for any motivations and ideas!
thx
naba