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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Clay Atkins <ca...@spcmg.com> on 1999/12/04 07:41:50 UTC
Ready to Go!
james,
I have successfully compiled FOP and run a test application. I'm ready to
go! Anything in particular that I can help with?
thanks,
Clay
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by James Tauber <jt...@jtauber.com>.
> Does Thomas Merz' pdflib cover this sort of thing? If so, I presume
> that studying the code for that would reveal some secrets.
I suspect you are right. Thanks for the reminder.
James
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Sebastian Rahtz <se...@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>.
James Tauber writes:
> * finding out how PDF does embedded and external fonts (ie fonts other than
> the in-built ones) and adding that support to the org.apache.fop.pdf package
> as people are wanting to use their own font
Does Thomas Merz' pdflib cover this sort of thing? If so, I presume
that studying the code for that would reveal some secrets. If I
remember aright, pdflib is at the bottom of RenderX's stuff (look at
the info fields in their PDF)
Sebastian
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by James Tauber <jt...@jtauber.com>.
> I have successfully compiled FOP and run a test application. I'm ready to
> go! Anything in particular that I can help with?
Here are some projects that come to mind:
* finding out how PDF does Unicode characters outside of WinAnsi and adding
that support to the org.apache.fop.pdf package
* finding out how PDF does embedded and external fonts (ie fonts other than
the in-built ones) and adding that support to the org.apache.fop.pdf package
as people are wanting to use their own font
* finding out how to do this in Java. People who want to print XML locally
will increasingly use just Java printing and bypass the PDF step.
* making a start on MathML support
* improving property.xml and property.xsl to use a superset of the W3C
schema language
* autogenerate PropertyListBuilder's list of mappings from property.xml
* think about ways of reducing the incredible redundancies in formatting
objects. There is so much refactoring that could be done, moving stuff up to
super classes, etc.
James
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by James Tauber <jt...@jtauber.com>.
> obviously, study of TeX would be a good starting point.
Absolutely. In fact, I would wager this is true for almost all the layout
algorithms FOP will use.
James
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Jean-Marc Destabeaux <ha...@worldnet.fr>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>
> Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps non-TeX people might be interested to hear that there is a
> > group called "NTS" (New Typesetting System), who are working on a
> > follow-up to TeX.
> > ......
> _very_ interesting. What is the URL for this NTS effort?
>
Official home of NTS is at
http://nts.tug.org/
There was once a (unrelated?) project for Java+TeX:
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/systems/java/javatex/
I don't know its status for now.
Jean-Marc Destabeaux
hacjmd@worldnet.fr
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Sebastian Rahtz <se...@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>.
Stefano Mazzocchi writes:
> > which could be used in things like FOP. Anyway, for whoever takes on
> > hyphenation in TeX, it is worth talking to these NTS people. The main
> > programmer is in the Czech Republic, fwiw.
>
> _very_ interesting. What is the URL for this NTS effort?
>
http://nts.tug.org
sebastian
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>
> Fotis Jannidis writes:
> > > obviously, study of TeX would be a good starting point. published,
> > > multi-lingual, sophisticated hyphenation ready and waiting.
> >
>
> > You are certainly right. I have never worked with TeX, so maybe
> > somebody else has experience in TeX and thinks this is an interesting job?
>
> Perhaps non-TeX people might be interested to hear that there is a
> group called "NTS" (New Typesetting System), who are working on a
> follow-up to TeX. Their first task was to rewrite TeX in Java, and so
> get a platform for experiments in different algorithms. This rewrite
> is now almost complete, I understand, and due to be released next
> summer. This _could_ end up being "TeX as a library of Java modules",
> which could be used in things like FOP. Anyway, for whoever takes on
> hyphenation in TeX, it is worth talking to these NTS people. The main
> programmer is in the Czech Republic, fwiw.
_very_ interesting. What is the URL for this NTS effort?
> Anyone who wants to get up to scratch with TeX and meet the people
> working on its children (which includes not only NTS, but also: e-TeX
> (extended TeX, with extra primitives); Omega (Unicode-based TeX); and
> LaTeX3 (next generation markup)), could and should come to Oxford (UK)
> next summer to the TeX Users Group meeting. See
> http://www.tug.org/tug2000/. Speaking as the conference chair, I can
> assure you of a warm welcome and people wanting to talk about high
> quality formatting.
:) Gee, wish I could be in more than one place at the same time :)
--
Stefano Mazzocchi One must still have chaos in oneself to be
able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Sebastian Rahtz <se...@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>.
Fotis Jannidis writes:
> > obviously, study of TeX would be a good starting point. published,
> > multi-lingual, sophisticated hyphenation ready and waiting.
>
> You are certainly right. I have never worked with TeX, so maybe
> somebody else has experience in TeX and thinks this is an interesting job?
Perhaps non-TeX people might be interested to hear that there is a
group called "NTS" (New Typesetting System), who are working on a
follow-up to TeX. Their first task was to rewrite TeX in Java, and so
get a platform for experiments in different algorithms. This rewrite
is now almost complete, I understand, and due to be released next
summer. This _could_ end up being "TeX as a library of Java modules",
which could be used in things like FOP. Anyway, for whoever takes on
hyphenation in TeX, it is worth talking to these NTS people. The main
programmer is in the Czech Republic, fwiw.
Anyone who wants to get up to scratch with TeX and meet the people
working on its children (which includes not only NTS, but also: e-TeX
(extended TeX, with extra primitives); Omega (Unicode-based TeX); and
LaTeX3 (next generation markup)), could and should come to Oxford (UK)
next summer to the TeX Users Group meeting. See
http://www.tug.org/tug2000/. Speaking as the conference chair, I can
assure you of a warm welcome and people wanting to talk about high
quality formatting.
Sebastian
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Fotis Jannidis <Fo...@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>.
> Fotis Jannidis writes:
>> there is one feature missing: hyphenation.
Sebastian writes:
> obviously, study of TeX would be a good starting point. published,
> multi-lingual, sophisticated hyphenation ready and waiting.
You are certainly right. I have never worked with TeX, so maybe somebody else has
experience in TeX and thinks this is an interesting job?
Fotis
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Sebastian Rahtz <se...@computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>.
Fotis Jannidis writes:
> One can process quite a lot of documents with the fo objects and
> properties which are now implemented in FOP, but there is one
> feature missing, which is a problem even in the simplest text:
> hyphenation. Closing the gaps between the words would be nice.
> Any ideas how to do that? Are there any hyphenation algorithms
> freely accessible? and in different languages?
obviously, study of TeX would be a good starting point. published,
multi-lingual, sophisticated hyphenation ready and waiting.
Sebastian
Re: Ready to Go!
Posted by Fotis Jannidis <Fo...@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>.
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From: catkins@spcmg.com (Clay Atkins)
To: "Fop-Dev@Xml. Apache. Org" <fo...@xml.apache.org>
Subject: Ready to Go!
Date sent: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 00:41:50 -0600
> I have successfully compiled FOP and run a test application. I'm ready to
> go! Anything in particular that I can help with?
If we are on the topic what should be done next:
One can process quite a lot of documents with the fo objects and properties which are
now implemented in FOP, but there is one feature missing, which is a problem even in
the simplest text: hyphenation. Closing the gaps between the words would be nice.
Any ideas how to do that? Are there any hyphenation algorithms freely accessible? and
in different languages?
Fotis