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Posted to dev@annotator.apache.org by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> on 2018/10/01 05:17:18 UTC
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Hi,
Note the mixed private and dev list.
> I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
> (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
> I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
> reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
> Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
> podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
> Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
> On Oct 3, 2018, at 3:17 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 20:53, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net <ma...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did some digging, and it looks like one of our board reports got missed by the bots:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018
>>
>> Not sure what kept it from showing on Whimsy's list:
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator
>>
>> However, it was filed, and was signed-off on by 2 of our mentors (Jim and Nick).
>>
>>
>> Missing from whimsy, but it is here
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2018/board_minutes_2018_04_18.txt
>>
>> Justin - you can’t rely on Whimsy unless that PMC fixes the bug.
>
> Which in turn likely won't happen unless someone reports it via a JIRA issue.
WHIMSY-209 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WHIMSY-209>Podling Board Reports Missing for April and June 2018
Regards,
Dave
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Additionally, this is the first time I've learned we're in "Group 1" and that we're on a specific quarterly schedule. Prior to this we've just been "reacting" to John's "board report due" emails--which, if we miss those...we miss the report.
>>
>> I'm going to setup more see-able targets in our GitHub and/or web site--which should make them much easier to hit regularly.
>>
>> Hope that April2018 board report alleviates some concerns. :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Benjamin
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://bigbluehat.com/
>>
>> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 AM
>> To: private@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Note the mixed private and dev list.
>>
>>> I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
>>> (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
>>
>> Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
>>
>>> I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
>>> reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
>>
>> I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
>>
>>> Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
>>> podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
>>
>> Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
>>
>>> Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
>>
>> Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>>
>> 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html
>>
>
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Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 20:53, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ok.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>
> Did some digging, and it looks like one of our board reports got missed by the bots:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018
>
> Not sure what kept it from showing on Whimsy's list:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator
>
> However, it was filed, and was signed-off on by 2 of our mentors (Jim and Nick).
>
>
> Missing from whimsy, but it is here
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2018/board_minutes_2018_04_18.txt
>
> Justin - you can’t rely on Whimsy unless that PMC fixes the bug.
Which in turn likely won't happen unless someone reports it via a JIRA issue.
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> Additionally, this is the first time I've learned we're in "Group 1" and that we're on a specific quarterly schedule. Prior to this we've just been "reacting" to John's "board report due" emails--which, if we miss those...we miss the report.
>
> I'm going to setup more see-able targets in our GitHub and/or web site--which should make them much easier to hit regularly.
>
> Hope that April2018 board report alleviates some concerns. :)
>
> Cheers!
> Benjamin
>
> --
>
> http://bigbluehat.com/
>
> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
>
> ________________________________
> From: Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 AM
> To: private@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> Note the mixed private and dev list.
>
> > I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
> > (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
>
> Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
>
> > I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
> > reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
>
> I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
>
> > Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
> > podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
>
> Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
>
> > Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
>
> Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Ok.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 2, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>
> Did some digging, and it looks like one of our board reports got missed by the bots:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018
>
> Not sure what kept it from showing on Whimsy's list:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator
>
> However, it was filed, and was signed-off on by 2 of our mentors (Jim and Nick).
Missing from whimsy, but it is here
https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2018/board_minutes_2018_04_18.txt
Justin - you can’t rely on Whimsy unless that PMC fixes the bug.
Regards,
Dave
>
> Additionally, this is the first time I've learned we're in "Group 1" and that we're on a specific quarterly schedule. Prior to this we've just been "reacting" to John's "board report due" emails--which, if we miss those...we miss the report.
>
> I'm going to setup more see-able targets in our GitHub and/or web site--which should make them much easier to hit regularly.
>
> Hope that April2018 board report alleviates some concerns. :)
>
> Cheers!
> Benjamin
> --
> http://bigbluehat.com/
> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
> From: Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 AM
> To: private@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> Note the mixed private and dev list.
>
> > I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
> > (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
>
> Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
>
> > I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
> > reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
>
> I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
>
> > Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
> > podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
>
> Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
>
> > Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
>
> Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Just a reminder that the report is due today.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
There is no bot involved in updating the wiki. You need to edit these manually in the wiki. Perhaps there was a conflict.
I’m concerned that if you are missing the reminders that not enough attention is being paid to the mailing lists.
Regards,
Dave
Note: private and public mix of recipients.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 2, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>
> Did some digging, and it looks like one of our board reports got missed by the bots:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018
>
> Not sure what kept it from showing on Whimsy's list:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator
>
> However, it was filed, and was signed-off on by 2 of our mentors (Jim and Nick).
>
> Additionally, this is the first time I've learned we're in "Group 1" and that we're on a specific quarterly schedule. Prior to this we've just been "reacting" to John's "board report due" emails--which, if we miss those...we miss the report.
>
> I'm going to setup more see-able targets in our GitHub and/or web site--which should make them much easier to hit regularly.
>
> Hope that April2018 board report alleviates some concerns. :)
>
> Cheers!
> Benjamin
> --
> http://bigbluehat.com/
> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
> From: Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 AM
> To: private@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
>
> Hi,
>
> Note the mixed private and dev list.
>
> > I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
> > (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
>
> Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
>
> > I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
> > reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
>
> I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
>
> > Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
> > podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
>
> Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
>
> > Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
>
> Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html
>
Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
Did some digging, and it looks like one of our board reports got missed by the bots:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2018
Not sure what kept it from showing on Whimsy's list:
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator
However, it was filed, and was signed-off on by 2 of our mentors (Jim and Nick).
Additionally, this is the first time I've learned we're in "Group 1" and that we're on a specific quarterly schedule. Prior to this we've just been "reacting" to John's "board report due" emails--which, if we miss those...we miss the report.
I'm going to setup more see-able targets in our GitHub and/or web site--which should make them much easier to hit regularly.
Hope that April2018 board report alleviates some concerns. :)
Cheers!
Benjamin
--
http://bigbluehat.com/
http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
________________________________
From: Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 AM
To: private@incubator.apache.org
Cc: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Podling Report Reminder - October 2018
Hi,
Note the mixed private and dev list.
> I'm slightly confused by this. Was the annotator report in September2018
> (which I recollect, and can see there now) an illusion?
Yep that happened but you had missed a number before that. [1] Looks like last board report before that one was almost a year ago when they need to be quarterly. If you miss one you are expected to report next month. You are in Group 1 and those podlings report Jan,Apr,Jul,Oct.
> I guess that means in principle the options are to report a second time in quick succession or to adjust the
> reporting schedule, and we're probably a bit late for the latter.
I wouldn’t adjust the report schedule at this point.
> Perhaps it would make sense for the automated emails to mention a
> podling's reporting schedule, so as to save potential confusion.
Well it a bit more complex as podlings report monthly for the first 3 months and can be asked for an out of band report or even asked to report monthly, but I'll see what I can do.
> Presumably this kind of thing may affect other podlings from time to time too?
Yes it does, but only if you miss one or more reports.
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Annotator.html