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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> on 2009/04/28 02:39:30 UTC

Publishing site

Hi All,

I checked out Incubator site.
Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
is well.

I got :-

D:\Apache2\incubator>svn st
X      rat
M      site-publish\guides\releasing-eclipse-update-site.html
?      site-publish\ip-clearance\lucene-query-parser.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\zookeeper.html
M
site-publish\ip-clearance\harmony-1680-contribution-javap-kononov.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\velocity-tiles.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\trinidad-translations.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\openxml4j.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\local-lucene-solr.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\xmlgraphics-batik-xmleditor-component.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\shale-444-clay-plugin-for-eclipse.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\commons-flatfile.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\pylucene.html
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\uima-as.html
M
site-publish\ip-clearance\harmony-5742-contribution-microemu-teodorczyk.h
tml
M      site-publish\ip-clearance\index.html
M      site-publish\projects\pivot.html

Performing status on external item at 'rat'

D:\Apache2\incubator>

So, whats the deal with all those changes?

I'm happy to commit them, I assume some are a result of some folk just
adding/editing the site-author docs and committing without building and
publishing them (which is counter-productive).

Some clarification would be good before I go ahead.

Thanks

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RE: Publishing site

Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 1:33 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Publishing site
> 
> Gavin wrote:
> > From: sebb
> > >
> > > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL
> > > changes?
> > >
> > > If some of the files don't have svn:eol-style set to native, then
> > > changes can occur.
> >
> > Yeah, none of the files mentioned had eol-style set to native, most but
> not
> > all of their xml originals did have eol-style set to native. So I guess
> the
> > moral is whenever anyone adds new files to the site, they need to
> remember
> > to set to eol-style to native on the generated HTML versions as well as
> the
> > initial xml versions.
> 
> All committers need to configure their svn client properly,
> then such adds would get handled automatically. Otherwise
> they need to manually deal with each 'svn add'.
> http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn-config

Yep that would be better :)

I experimented with deleting one of the files in question, then re-running
the site build. The resultant generated .html file still did not have
eol-style set so I guess the auto-config file only works during the 'svn
add' command.

So I set these ones manually this time.

Gav...

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Gavin wrote:
> From: sebb
> >
> > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL
> > changes?
> > 
> > If some of the files don't have svn:eol-style set to native, then
> > changes can occur.
> 
> Yeah, none of the files mentioned had eol-style set to native, most but not
> all of their xml originals did have eol-style set to native. So I guess the
> moral is whenever anyone adds new files to the site, they need to remember
> to set to eol-style to native on the generated HTML versions as well as the
> initial xml versions.

All committers need to configure their svn client properly,
then such adds would get handled automatically. Otherwise
they need to manually deal with each 'svn add'.
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn-config

-David

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RE: Publishing site

Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 11:35 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Publishing site
> 
> On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >  I checked out Incubator site.
> >  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if
> all
> >  is well.
> >
> >  I got :-
> >

<snip>

> Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL
> changes?
> 
> If some of the files don't have svn:eol-style set to native, then
> changes can occur.

Yeah, none of the files mentioned had eol-style set to native, most but not
all of their xml originals did have eol-style set to native. So I guess the
moral is whenever anyone adds new files to the site, they need to remember
to set to eol-style to native on the generated HTML versions as well as the
initial xml versions.

I'm working through them now.

Gav...

> 
> Also it's not unknown for such differences to occur when different
> versions of the build tools are used - even Java versions can affect
> generated HTML, as I found out with the Apache site (the Ant script
> should now handle this)
> 
> >  I'm happy to commit them, I assume some are a result of some folk just
> >  adding/editing the site-author docs and committing without building and
> >  publishing them (which is counter-productive).
> >
> >  Some clarification would be good before I go ahead.
> >
> >  Thanks
> >
> >  Gav...
> >
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:14 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW, there are quite a lot of html files in site-publish that don't
> have corresponding xml files in site-author:
>
> site-publish/projects/success/merlin-developer.html
> site-publish/projects/geronimo/status.html
> site-publish/projects/geronimo-proposal.html
> site-publish/projects/altrmi/*
> site-publish/projects/ruper

i think so

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >> so did i
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >  >>  >>  >>  >
>  >  >>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >  >>  >>  >
>  >  >>  >>  > Any examples?
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  > One or two short diffs.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>  >  >>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>  >  >>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>  >  >>          </tr>
>  >  >>          <tr>
>  >  >>            <td>Committers</td>
>  >  >>  -          <td>��</td>
>  >  >>  +          <td>??</td>
>  >  >
>  >  > Neither of those looks correct...
>  >
>  >
>  > the diff is to the console (which tends to present non-ASCII as above)
>  >
>  >
>  >  > I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
>  >  > cell displays correctly.
>  >
>  >
>  > i suspect that it's probably a long dash
>
>
> See my later e-mail, it should be NBSP.
>
>
>  >  other examples are stuff like umlauts
>
>
> What JVM are you using, and what encoding?
>

BTW, there were quite a few missing eol-style properties which I have
fixed; I don't suppose that will help with the unmlauts though.

I just tried a build on people, and it works fine. There were no
changes to the html files.
Tried deleting all the output html files; still no differences generated.

BTW, there are quite a lot of html files in site-publish that don't
have corresponding xml files in site-author:

site-publish/projects/success/merlin-developer.html
site-publish/projects/geronimo/status.html
site-publish/projects/geronimo-proposal.html
site-publish/projects/altrmi/*
site-publish/projects/ruper

These should presumably be deleted?

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 01/05/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:10 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  <snip>
>
>
>  > Try adding the following line to one of the ant targets, e.g. docs:
>  >
>  > <echoproperties prefix="file." />
>  >
>  > This will display file.encoding.
>
>
> file.encoding=ANSI_X3.4-1968
>
>  (ASCII)
>

No wonder, as Ascii does not have the accents.

Can you try with utf-8 or iso-8859-1?

E.g.

ant -Dfile.encoding=utf-8

and see if that helps?

If so, maybe the build file could check the encoding and report an
error if it is unsuitable.
>  - robert
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:10 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Try adding the following line to one of the ant targets, e.g. docs:
>
> <echoproperties prefix="file." />
>
> This will display file.encoding.

file.encoding=ANSI_X3.4-1968

(ASCII)

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:43 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >> so did i
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  >>  > Any examples?
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > One or two short diffs.
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>  >>  >>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>  >>  >>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>  >>  >>          </tr>
>  >>  >>          <tr>
>  >>  >>            <td>Committers</td>
>  >>  >>  -          <td>��</td>
>  >>  >>  +          <td>??</td>
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Neither of those looks correct...
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> the diff is to the console (which tends to present non-ASCII as above)
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  > I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
>  >>  > cell displays correctly.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> i suspect that it's probably a long dash
>  >
>  > See my later e-mail, it should be NBSP.
>  >
>  >>  other examples are stuff like umlauts
>  >
>  > What JVM are you using, and what encoding?
>
>
> java version "1.5.0_14"
>  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_14-b03)
>  Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_14-b03, mixed mode)
>
>  encoding is not UTF-8 but not sure what it is
>
Try adding the following line to one of the ant targets, e.g. docs:

<echoproperties prefix="file." />

This will display file.encoding.

>  - robert
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:43 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >> so did i
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>>  >>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  > Any examples?
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > One or two short diffs.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>>  >>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>>  >>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>>  >>          </tr>
>>  >>          <tr>
>>  >>            <td>Committers</td>
>>  >>  -          <td>��</td>
>>  >>  +          <td>??</td>
>>  >
>>  > Neither of those looks correct...
>>
>>
>> the diff is to the console (which tends to present non-ASCII as above)
>>
>>
>>  > I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
>>  > cell displays correctly.
>>
>>
>> i suspect that it's probably a long dash
>
> See my later e-mail, it should be NBSP.
>
>>  other examples are stuff like umlauts
>
> What JVM are you using, and what encoding?

java version "1.5.0_14"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_14-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0_14-b03, mixed mode)

encoding is not UTF-8 but not sure what it is

- robert

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> so did i
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > Any examples?
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > One or two short diffs.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>  >>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>  >>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>  >>          </tr>
>  >>          <tr>
>  >>            <td>Committers</td>
>  >>  -          <td>��</td>
>  >>  +          <td>??</td>
>  >
>  > Neither of those looks correct...
>
>
> the diff is to the console (which tends to present non-ASCII as above)
>
>
>  > I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
>  > cell displays correctly.
>
>
> i suspect that it's probably a long dash

See my later e-mail, it should be NBSP.

>  other examples are stuff like umlauts

What JVM are you using, and what encoding?

>
>  - robert
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>>  >>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> so did i
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Any examples?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>>  >
>>  > One or two short diffs.
>>
>>
>> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>>          </tr>
>>          <tr>
>>            <td>Committers</td>
>>  -          <td>��</td>
>>  +          <td>??</td>
>
> Neither of those looks correct...

the diff is to the console (which tends to present non-ASCII as above)

> I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
> cell displays correctly.

i suspect that it's probably a long dash

other examples are stuff like umlauts

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >  >>  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >> so did i
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >  >>  >>  >
>  >  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  > Any examples?
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>  >  >
>  >  > One or two short diffs.
>  >
>  >
>  > --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>  >  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>  >  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>  >          </tr>
>  >          <tr>
>  >            <td>Committers</td>
>  >  -          <td>��</td>
>  >  +          <td>??</td>
>
>
> Neither of those looks correct...
>
>  I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
>  cell displays correctly.

The original XML has <td>&#160;</td> which is NBSP in UTF-8.

[BTW, this works fine for me when building on Windows/XP with Java 1.4
- I just see a space.]

It would be better if the html used &nbsp; as well.
However this appears to be rather difficult to do when using XML with Anakia.

>
>  >            <td>See up to date list on the <a
>  >  href="http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/project-team.html">Sling
>  >  website</a></td>
>  >          </tr>
>  >        </table>
>  >
>  >
>  >  >>  >>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>  >  >>  >>
>  >  >>  >>  any ideas?
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  > I've not seen that with Apache site.
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  > Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
>  >  >>  > Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> sometimes
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  setting "svn propedit svn:mime-type" to "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
>  >  >>  doesn't make any different to the diff for me
>  >  >
>  >  > Might need to do the same for the XML?
>  >
>  >
>  > didn't make much difference either
>  >
>  >
>  >  - robert
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >> so did i
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >>  >>  >
>  >>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Any examples?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>  >
>  > One or two short diffs.
>
>
> --- site-publish/projects/sling.html    (revision 770200)
>  +++ site-publish/projects/sling.html    (working copy)
>  @@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
>          </tr>
>          <tr>
>            <td>Committers</td>
>  -          <td>��</td>
>  +          <td>??</td>

Neither of those looks correct...

I suspect it should probably be <td>&nbsp;</td> to ensure that empty
cell displays correctly.

>            <td>See up to date list on the <a
>  href="http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/project-team.html">Sling
>  website</a></td>
>          </tr>
>        </table>
>
>
>  >>  >>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  any ideas?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > I've not seen that with Apache site.
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
>  >>  > Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> sometimes
>  >>
>  >>  setting "svn propedit svn:mime-type" to "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
>  >>  doesn't make any different to the diff for me
>  >
>  > Might need to do the same for the XML?
>
>
> didn't make much difference either
>
>
>  - robert
>
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>>  >>  >> Hi All,
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>>  >>  >>  is well.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> so did i
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>>  >
>>  > Any examples?
>>
>>
>> what sort of thing did you have in mind?
>
> One or two short diffs.

--- site-publish/projects/sling.html	(revision 770200)
+++ site-publish/projects/sling.html	(working copy)
@@ -209,7 +209,7 @@
         </tr>
         <tr>
           <td>Committers</td>
-          <td>��</td>
+          <td>??</td>
           <td>See up to date list on the <a
href="http://incubator.apache.org/sling/site/project-team.html">Sling
website</a></td>
         </tr>
       </table>

>>  >>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>>  >>
>>  >>  any ideas?
>>  >
>>  > I've not seen that with Apache site.
>>  >
>>  > Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
>>  > Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?
>>
>>
>> sometimes
>>
>>  setting "svn propedit svn:mime-type" to "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
>>  doesn't make any different to the diff for me
>
> Might need to do the same for the XML?

didn't make much difference either

- robert

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >>  >> Hi All,
>  >>  >>
>  >>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >>  >>  is well.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> so did i
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>  >
>  > Any examples?
>
>
> what sort of thing did you have in mind?

One or two short diffs.

>
>  >>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>  >>
>  >>  any ideas?
>  >
>  > I've not seen that with Apache site.
>  >
>  > Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
>  > Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?
>
>
> sometimes
>
>  setting "svn propedit svn:mime-type" to "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
>  doesn't make any different to the diff for me

Might need to do the same for the XML?

>
>  > May be completely off-base, but SVN has to process the files in order
>  > to deal with EOL correctly, and this almost certainly requires
>  > processing the file as a character stream rather than bytes.
>
>
> possibly
>
>
>  - robert
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>>  >> Hi All,
>>  >>
>>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>>  >>  is well.
>>
>>
>> so did i
>>
>>
>>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>>  >
>>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>>
>>
>> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
>
> Any examples?

what sort of thing did you have in mind?

>>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>>
>>  any ideas?
>
> I've not seen that with Apache site.
>
> Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
> Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?

sometimes

setting "svn propedit svn:mime-type" to "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
doesn't make any different to the diff for me

> May be completely off-base, but SVN has to process the files in order
> to deal with EOL correctly, and this almost certainly requires
> processing the file as a character stream rather than bytes.

possibly

- robert

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30/04/2009, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>  >> Hi All,
>  >>
>  >>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  >>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  >>  is well.
>
>
> so did i
>
>
>  >>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>  >
>  > Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?
>
>
> i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related

Any examples?

>  to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.
>
>  any ideas?

I've not seen that with Apache site.

Just wondering if it might be related to svn:mime-type ?
Does SVN correctly handle charsets if the mime-type is not set up?

May be completely off-base, but SVN has to process the files in order
to deal with EOL correctly, and this almost certainly requires
processing the file as a character stream rather than bytes.

>
>  - robert
>
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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>>  I checked out Incubator site.
>>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>>  is well.

so did i

>>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?
>
> Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?

i find a lot of charset related changes. i think this must be related
to the upgrade to anakia and the change to UTF-8. i'm on linux.

any ideas?

- robert

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Re: Publishing site

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> ...
>> >  ?      site-publish\ip-clearance\lucene-query-parser.html
>
> Just this last one to go. The xml equivalent was added/changed 20th March
> 2009. I take it I'm ok to svn add it ?

Looks like this is related to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1567 - I did the svn add
and made a note there.

-Bertrand

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RE: Publishing site

Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 11:35 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Publishing site
> 
> On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >  I checked out Incubator site.
> >  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if
> all
> >  is well.
> >
> >  I got :-
> >
<snip>

> >  ?      site-publish\ip-clearance\lucene-query-parser.html

Just this last one to go. The xml equivalent was added/changed 20th March
2009. I take it I'm ok to svn add it ?

Gav...



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Re: Publishing site

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 28/04/2009, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>  I checked out Incubator site.
>  Before doing any changes at all I thought I'd build the site and see if all
>  is well.
>
>  I got :-
>
>  D:\Apache2\incubator>svn st
>  X      rat
>  M      site-publish\guides\releasing-eclipse-update-site.html
>  ?      site-publish\ip-clearance\lucene-query-parser.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\zookeeper.html
>  M
>  site-publish\ip-clearance\harmony-1680-contribution-javap-kononov.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\velocity-tiles.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\trinidad-translations.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\openxml4j.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\local-lucene-solr.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\xmlgraphics-batik-xmleditor-component.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\shale-444-clay-plugin-for-eclipse.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\commons-flatfile.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\pylucene.html
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\uima-as.html
>  M
>  site-publish\ip-clearance\harmony-5742-contribution-microemu-teodorczyk.h
>  tml
>  M      site-publish\ip-clearance\index.html
>  M      site-publish\projects\pivot.html
>
>  Performing status on external item at 'rat'
>
>  D:\Apache2\incubator>
>
>  So, whats the deal with all those changes?

Just checking - are these "real" changes, or just whitespace or EOL changes?

If some of the files don't have svn:eol-style set to native, then
changes can occur.

Also it's not unknown for such differences to occur when different
versions of the build tools are used - even Java versions can affect
generated HTML, as I found out with the Apache site (the Ant script
should now handle this)

>  I'm happy to commit them, I assume some are a result of some folk just
>  adding/editing the site-author docs and committing without building and
>  publishing them (which is counter-productive).
>
>  Some clarification would be good before I go ahead.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Gav...
>
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