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Posted to users@wicket.apache.org by David Chang <da...@yahoo.com> on 2009/08/05 22:41:38 UTC
How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding how they work together and in what order.
The big concepts I am talking about include:
Application
Session
Request
RequestCycle
RequestCycleProcessor
RequestTarget
SessionStore
Request
Response
Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket label. A user requests this page. I would like to know how the above objects/concepts get involved and in what order.
If it needs too much description, then forget it. If it does not take too much of your time or you want to refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I really appreciate it.
I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
Thank you!
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
Posted by David Chang <da...@yahoo.com>.
will do. thanks!
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:37 PM
> and when you do figure it out dont
> forget to take the time to update
> that lacking wiki page.
>
> -igor
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy
> Thomerson<je...@wickettraining.com>
> wrote:
> > The best way for you to see how each of those things
> gets involved is
> > to create the basic page that you mentioned - with a
> label. Then set
> > a debug point in your editor in the WicketFilter's
> doFilter method and
> > step through. Or, go the opposite way - set a couple
> debug points in
> > Label (i.e. onComponentTag, onBeforeRender,
> onComponentTagBody, etc)
> > and then when it breaks there, walk up the stacktrace
> and see what's
> > calling what.
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy Thomerson
> > http://www.wickettraining.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Igor, thanks for the tip. I read that wiki page
> "The Life-Cycle of a Wicket Application". The page has
> useful info but it is still lacking. It does not mention
> RequestCycleProcessor, RequestTarget, or Response objects.
> Can any Wicket expert update this page?
> >>
> >>
> >> Have a better understanding now but hope to have
> more explanation.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects
> work together and in what order?
> >>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:05 PM
> >>> step 1) go to http://www.google.com
> >>> step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle"
> without the
> >>> quotes
> >>> step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
> >>>
> >>> -igor
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David
> Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Jeremy, I bought and read that book
> already. I have a
> >>> good understanding of the technology now, but
> still feel
> >>> lack of precise understanding of them.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson
> <je...@wickettraining.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> >>> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big
> concepts/objects
> >>> work together and in what order?
> >>> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >>> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51
> PM
> >>> >> Welcome to Wicket! The best
> >>> >> thing you can do is buy Wicket in
> Action.
> >>> >> It has charts that show the
> interactions between
> >>> these
> >>> >> various
> >>> >> components.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Jeremy Thomerson
> >>> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David
> Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now
> and feel a
> >>> bit
> >>> >> confused by the new concepts in
> Wicket regarding
> >>> how they
> >>> >> work together and in what order.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The big concepts I am talking
> about include:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Application
> >>> >> > Session
> >>> >> > Request
> >>> >> > RequestCycle
> >>> >> > RequestCycleProcessor
> >>> >> > RequestTarget
> >>> >> > SessionStore
> >>> >> > Request
> >>> >> > Response
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Suppose I have a simple page
> with just one
> >>> Wicket
> >>> >> label. A user requests this page. I
> would like to
> >>> know how
> >>> >> the above objects/concepts get
> involved and in
> >>> what order.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > If it needs too much
> description, then forget
> >>> it. If
> >>> >> it does not take too much of your
> time or you want
> >>> to
> >>> >> refresh yourself by give me an
> explanation, I
> >>> really
> >>> >> appreciate it.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I want to be a good Wicket
> programmer.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thank you!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>>
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> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
and when you do figure it out dont forget to take the time to update
that lacking wiki page.
-igor
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy
Thomerson<je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> The best way for you to see how each of those things gets involved is
> to create the basic page that you mentioned - with a label. Then set
> a debug point in your editor in the WicketFilter's doFilter method and
> step through. Or, go the opposite way - set a couple debug points in
> Label (i.e. onComponentTag, onBeforeRender, onComponentTagBody, etc)
> and then when it breaks there, walk up the stacktrace and see what's
> calling what.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Igor, thanks for the tip. I read that wiki page "The Life-Cycle of a Wicket Application". The page has useful info but it is still lacking. It does not mention RequestCycleProcessor, RequestTarget, or Response objects. Can any Wicket expert update this page?
>>
>>
>> Have a better understanding now but hope to have more explanation.
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
>>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:05 PM
>>> step 1) go to http://www.google.com
>>> step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle" without the
>>> quotes
>>> step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
>>>
>>> -igor
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Jeremy, I bought and read that book already. I have a
>>> good understanding of the technology now, but still feel
>>> lack of precise understanding of them.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
>>> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects
>>> work together and in what order?
>>> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>>> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
>>> >> Welcome to Wicket! The best
>>> >> thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
>>> >> It has charts that show the interactions between
>>> these
>>> >> various
>>> >> components.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jeremy Thomerson
>>> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a
>>> bit
>>> >> confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding
>>> how they
>>> >> work together and in what order.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Application
>>> >> > Session
>>> >> > Request
>>> >> > RequestCycle
>>> >> > RequestCycleProcessor
>>> >> > RequestTarget
>>> >> > SessionStore
>>> >> > Request
>>> >> > Response
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one
>>> Wicket
>>> >> label. A user requests this page. I would like to
>>> know how
>>> >> the above objects/concepts get involved and in
>>> what order.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If it needs too much description, then forget
>>> it. If
>>> >> it does not take too much of your time or you want
>>> to
>>> >> refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I
>>> really
>>> >> appreciate it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.apache.org
>>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
Posted by David Chang <da...@yahoo.com>.
Jeremy, thanks for the good tip. It makes sense, though not the best way. The more I read about Wicket, the more I like it:-) Just hope to know every detail. Wicket is a great tool but learning curve is tall.
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:35 PM
> The best way for you to see how each
> of those things gets involved is
> to create the basic page that you mentioned - with a
> label. Then set
> a debug point in your editor in the WicketFilter's doFilter
> method and
> step through. Or, go the opposite way - set a couple
> debug points in
> Label (i.e. onComponentTag, onBeforeRender,
> onComponentTagBody, etc)
> and then when it breaks there, walk up the stacktrace and
> see what's
> calling what.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Igor, thanks for the tip. I read that wiki page "The
> Life-Cycle of a Wicket Application". The page has useful
> info but it is still lacking. It does not mention
> RequestCycleProcessor, RequestTarget, or Response objects.
> Can any Wicket expert update this page?
> >
> >
> > Have a better understanding now but hope to have more
> explanation.
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects
> work together and in what order?
> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:05 PM
> >> step 1) go to http://www.google.com
> >> step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle"
> without the
> >> quotes
> >> step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
> >>
> >> -igor
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Jeremy, I bought and read that book already.
> I have a
> >> good understanding of the technology now, but
> still feel
> >> lack of precise understanding of them.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big
> concepts/objects
> >> work together and in what order?
> >> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
> >> >> Welcome to Wicket! The best
> >> >> thing you can do is buy Wicket in
> Action.
> >> >> It has charts that show the
> interactions between
> >> these
> >> >> various
> >> >> components.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jeremy Thomerson
> >> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David
> Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and
> feel a
> >> bit
> >> >> confused by the new concepts in Wicket
> regarding
> >> how they
> >> >> work together and in what order.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The big concepts I am talking about
> include:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Application
> >> >> > Session
> >> >> > Request
> >> >> > RequestCycle
> >> >> > RequestCycleProcessor
> >> >> > RequestTarget
> >> >> > SessionStore
> >> >> > Request
> >> >> > Response
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Suppose I have a simple page with
> just one
> >> Wicket
> >> >> label. A user requests this page. I would
> like to
> >> know how
> >> >> the above objects/concepts get involved
> and in
> >> what order.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If it needs too much description,
> then forget
> >> it. If
> >> >> it does not take too much of your time or
> you want
> >> to
> >> >> refresh yourself by give me an
> explanation, I
> >> really
> >> >> appreciate it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I want to be a good Wicket
> programmer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@wicket.apache.org
> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
The best way for you to see how each of those things gets involved is
to create the basic page that you mentioned - with a label. Then set
a debug point in your editor in the WicketFilter's doFilter method and
step through. Or, go the opposite way - set a couple debug points in
Label (i.e. onComponentTag, onBeforeRender, onComponentTagBody, etc)
and then when it breaks there, walk up the stacktrace and see what's
calling what.
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Igor, thanks for the tip. I read that wiki page "The Life-Cycle of a Wicket Application". The page has useful info but it is still lacking. It does not mention RequestCycleProcessor, RequestTarget, or Response objects. Can any Wicket expert update this page?
>
>
> Have a better understanding now but hope to have more explanation.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:05 PM
>> step 1) go to http://www.google.com
>> step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle" without the
>> quotes
>> step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
>>
>> -igor
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jeremy, I bought and read that book already. I have a
>> good understanding of the technology now, but still feel
>> lack of precise understanding of them.
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects
>> work together and in what order?
>> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
>> >> Welcome to Wicket! The best
>> >> thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
>> >> It has charts that show the interactions between
>> these
>> >> various
>> >> components.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jeremy Thomerson
>> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a
>> bit
>> >> confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding
>> how they
>> >> work together and in what order.
>> >> >
>> >> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
>> >> >
>> >> > Application
>> >> > Session
>> >> > Request
>> >> > RequestCycle
>> >> > RequestCycleProcessor
>> >> > RequestTarget
>> >> > SessionStore
>> >> > Request
>> >> > Response
>> >> >
>> >> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one
>> Wicket
>> >> label. A user requests this page. I would like to
>> know how
>> >> the above objects/concepts get involved and in
>> what order.
>> >> >
>> >> > If it needs too much description, then forget
>> it. If
>> >> it does not take too much of your time or you want
>> to
>> >> refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I
>> really
>> >> appreciate it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
Posted by David Chang <da...@yahoo.com>.
Igor, thanks for the tip. I read that wiki page "The Life-Cycle of a Wicket Application". The page has useful info but it is still lacking. It does not mention RequestCycleProcessor, RequestTarget, or Response objects. Can any Wicket expert update this page?
Have a better understanding now but hope to have more explanation.
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:05 PM
> step 1) go to http://www.google.com
> step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle" without the
> quotes
> step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
>
> -igor
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jeremy, I bought and read that book already. I have a
> good understanding of the technology now, but still feel
> lack of precise understanding of them.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> >> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects
> work together and in what order?
> >> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
> >> Welcome to Wicket! The best
> >> thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
> >> It has charts that show the interactions between
> these
> >> various
> >> components.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeremy Thomerson
> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a
> bit
> >> confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding
> how they
> >> work together and in what order.
> >> >
> >> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
> >> >
> >> > Application
> >> > Session
> >> > Request
> >> > RequestCycle
> >> > RequestCycleProcessor
> >> > RequestTarget
> >> > SessionStore
> >> > Request
> >> > Response
> >> >
> >> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one
> Wicket
> >> label. A user requests this page. I would like to
> know how
> >> the above objects/concepts get involved and in
> what order.
> >> >
> >> > If it needs too much description, then forget
> it. If
> >> it does not take too much of your time or you want
> to
> >> refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I
> really
> >> appreciate it.
> >> >
> >> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
step 1) go to http://www.google.com
step 2) in text box type "wicket lifecycle" without the quotes
step 3) hit "i am feeling lucky button"
-igor
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Jeremy, I bought and read that book already. I have a good understanding of the technology now, but still feel lack of precise understanding of them.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
>> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
>> To: users@wicket.apache.org
>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
>> Welcome to Wicket! The best
>> thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
>> It has charts that show the interactions between these
>> various
>> components.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit
>> confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding how they
>> work together and in what order.
>> >
>> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
>> >
>> > Application
>> > Session
>> > Request
>> > RequestCycle
>> > RequestCycleProcessor
>> > RequestTarget
>> > SessionStore
>> > Request
>> > Response
>> >
>> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket
>> label. A user requests this page. I would like to know how
>> the above objects/concepts get involved and in what order.
>> >
>> > If it needs too much description, then forget it. If
>> it does not take too much of your time or you want to
>> refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I really
>> appreciate it.
>> >
>> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
Posted by David Chang <da...@yahoo.com>.
Jeremy, I bought and read that book already. I have a good understanding of the technology now, but still feel lack of precise understanding of them.
Cheers!
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com> wrote:
> From: Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>
> Subject: Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what order?
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 4:51 PM
> Welcome to Wicket! The best
> thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
> It has charts that show the interactions between these
> various
> components.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit
> confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding how they
> work together and in what order.
> >
> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
> >
> > Application
> > Session
> > Request
> > RequestCycle
> > RequestCycleProcessor
> > RequestTarget
> > SessionStore
> > Request
> > Response
> >
> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket
> label. A user requests this page. I would like to know how
> the above objects/concepts get involved and in what order.
> >
> > If it needs too much description, then forget it. If
> it does not take too much of your time or you want to
> refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I really
> appreciate it.
> >
> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
Welcome to Wicket! The best thing you can do is buy Wicket in Action.
It has charts that show the interactions between these various
components.
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Chang<da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit confused by the new concepts in Wicket regarding how they work together and in what order.
>
> The big concepts I am talking about include:
>
> Application
> Session
> Request
> RequestCycle
> RequestCycleProcessor
> RequestTarget
> SessionStore
> Request
> Response
>
> Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket label. A user requests this page. I would like to know how the above objects/concepts get involved and in what order.
>
> If it needs too much description, then forget it. If it does not take too much of your time or you want to refresh yourself by give me an explanation, I really appreciate it.
>
> I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org>.
This idea of 'just doing it' and a culture of incremental knowledge
attainment is crucial in my book.
I've made a point of building the most trivial webapps I have in wicket. For
example we recently re-did our WISP public homepage (
http://www.valleyinternet.com/) and I used it as an opportunity to learn
more wicket. The page is simple and minor andbarely worthy of 'wicketizing'
but doing something that specifically does -not- have a huge audience and
does -not- have massive features is a great way to learn more without the
pressures of developing a "real" app.
In that case I got to work with GMap2, learned some new ajax interactions
(including some gotchas) and was able to decisively break from my Ant past
and fully embrace Maven. So we got a new homepage but I got to pick up new
techniques that I am now applying to other trivial (and not so trivial)
webapps.
So, DO IT but do it often..
John-
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:29 AM, T Ames <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think for most people anyway, you learn by doing. I would think that by
> now you have a basic understanding to put together a really decent web
> application. There is quite a learning curve, but you do not have to
> understand all of the internals.
>
> I learn more about Wicket each time I do a web app. I don't think you
> could
> really be a "good" Wicket programmer unless you have several apps under
> your
> belt. Just go in a DO IT! The understanding will come with experience.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:54 AM, jWeekend <jweekend_forums@cabouge.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Jonathan Locke and I have started writing an article describing the
> Wicket
> > architecture (as opposed to the Architecture of A Wicket Application). It
> > will be the document I wish could have found when I had the good fortune
> to
> > come across Wicket in 2007.
> >
> > In the meantime, we have a few articles on the wiki by Dima (pen name
> syl)
> > like
> >
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/request-cycle-and-request-cycle-processor.html
> > this that you may find useful.
> >
> > Regards - Cemal
> > jWeekend
> > OO, Java Technologies, Wicket - Training & Consultancy
> > http://jWeekend.com
> >
> >
> >
> > David Chang-5 wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit confused by the new
> > > concepts in Wicket regarding how they work together and in what order.
> > >
> > > The big concepts I am talking about include:
> > >
> > > Application
> > > Session
> > > Request
> > > RequestCycle
> > > RequestCycleProcessor
> > > RequestTarget
> > > SessionStore
> > > Request
> > > Response
> > >
> > > Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket label. A user
> requests
> > > this page. I would like to know how the above objects/concepts get
> > > involved and in what order.
> > >
> > > If it needs too much description, then forget it. If it does not take
> too
> > > much of your time or you want to refresh yourself by give me an
> > > explanation, I really appreciate it.
> > >
> > > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by T Ames <ta...@gmail.com>.
I think for most people anyway, you learn by doing. I would think that by
now you have a basic understanding to put together a really decent web
application. There is quite a learning curve, but you do not have to
understand all of the internals.
I learn more about Wicket each time I do a web app. I don't think you could
really be a "good" Wicket programmer unless you have several apps under your
belt. Just go in a DO IT! The understanding will come with experience.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:54 AM, jWeekend <jw...@cabouge.com>wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Jonathan Locke and I have started writing an article describing the Wicket
> architecture (as opposed to the Architecture of A Wicket Application). It
> will be the document I wish could have found when I had the good fortune to
> come across Wicket in 2007.
>
> In the meantime, we have a few articles on the wiki by Dima (pen name syl)
> like
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/request-cycle-and-request-cycle-processor.html
> this that you may find useful.
>
> Regards - Cemal
> jWeekend
> OO, Java Technologies, Wicket - Training & Consultancy
> http://jWeekend.com
>
>
>
> David Chang-5 wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit confused by the new
> > concepts in Wicket regarding how they work together and in what order.
> >
> > The big concepts I am talking about include:
> >
> > Application
> > Session
> > Request
> > RequestCycle
> > RequestCycleProcessor
> > RequestTarget
> > SessionStore
> > Request
> > Response
> >
> > Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket label. A user requests
> > this page. I would like to know how the above objects/concepts get
> > involved and in what order.
> >
> > If it needs too much description, then forget it. If it does not take too
> > much of your time or you want to refresh yourself by give me an
> > explanation, I really appreciate it.
> >
> > I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: How Wicket's big concepts/objects work together and in what
order?
Posted by jWeekend <jw...@cabouge.com>.
David,
Jonathan Locke and I have started writing an article describing the Wicket
architecture (as opposed to the Architecture of A Wicket Application). It
will be the document I wish could have found when I had the good fortune to
come across Wicket in 2007.
In the meantime, we have a few articles on the wiki by Dima (pen name syl)
like
http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/request-cycle-and-request-cycle-processor.html
this that you may find useful.
Regards - Cemal
jWeekend
OO, Java Technologies, Wicket - Training & Consultancy
http://jWeekend.com
David Chang-5 wrote:
>
>
> Hello, I am learning Wicket now and feel a bit confused by the new
> concepts in Wicket regarding how they work together and in what order.
>
> The big concepts I am talking about include:
>
> Application
> Session
> Request
> RequestCycle
> RequestCycleProcessor
> RequestTarget
> SessionStore
> Request
> Response
>
> Suppose I have a simple page with just one Wicket label. A user requests
> this page. I would like to know how the above objects/concepts get
> involved and in what order.
>
> If it needs too much description, then forget it. If it does not take too
> much of your time or you want to refresh yourself by give me an
> explanation, I really appreciate it.
>
> I want to be a good Wicket programmer.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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