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Mail list server?
Hi - I am investigating James and need a mail server that supports mail
lists. I cannot seem to find any documentation on how to go about
configuring James (with or without mailets) to support a mail list
service. Can someone point me to the documentation with examples on how
to go about this using James version 3.0 or higher. (I also need IMAP
support and it appears that earlier versions of James did not support
IMAP but did indeed provide support for mail list service. Thanks in
advance...
Marc...
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Benoit Tellier <bt...@linagora.com>.
Hi,
Yes these mailets are no longer part of James source code.
To support mailing lists in James 3.x we would need to re-introduce all
these mailets, and maybe also a few generic data-models.
This do not seems complicated to do but this definitly demands a bit
more work than just some documentation.
Would people support the idea of offering this topic as a candidate for
Google Summer of code 2019 ?
Cheers,
Benoit
On 10/31/18 1:44 AM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
> On 10/30/2018 09:58 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> You are right, it seems we lost the appropriate documentation about
>> this when releasing the 3.0:
>> http://james.apache.org/server/2.3.0/mailing_lists.html
>>
>> Can you check if it is still working? Of course contributing
>> documentation (and even integration tests) on this feature is very
>> welcome!
>>
>>
> Hi Raphael, Thanks for providing the link, but this is for the older
> version of James, v2.3. This appears to be using the Avalon software
> framework and I didn't think Avalon is still being supported in James
> 3.0? Is it and will these mailets work in James 3.0? If you or others on
> this list think so I will go ahead and give it a shot. And I would be
> happy to contribute to the documentation and even do some integration
> testing if someone is willing to teach/guide me. (never done it before
> so not sure what the procedures are...)
>
> Marc...
>
>
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Marc Chamberlin <ma...@marcchamberlin.com>.
On 10/30/2018 09:58 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> You are right, it seems we lost the appropriate documentation about
> this when releasing the 3.0:
> http://james.apache.org/server/2.3.0/mailing_lists.html
>
> Can you check if it is still working? Of course contributing
> documentation (and even integration tests) on this feature is very
> welcome!
>
>
Hi Raphael, Thanks for providing the link, but this is for the older
version of James, v2.3. This appears to be using the Avalon software
framework and I didn't think Avalon is still being supported in James
3.0? Is it and will these mailets work in James 3.0? If you or others on
this list think so I will go ahead and give it a shot. And I would be
happy to contribute to the documentation and even do some integration
testing if someone is willing to teach/guide me. (never done it before
so not sure what the procedures are...)
Marc...
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Raphael OUAZANA <ra...@linagora.com>.
Hi,
Le 2018-10-30 17:34, Marc Chamberlin a écrit :
> Hi Raphael, and thanks for replying... What I mean by mail list is
> exactly the same as what is being used here for the James
> server-user@james.apache.org mail list. It is a mail list service run
> on
> the Apache-James server and allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe
> at
> will, or through a moderator(s), to the lists. When someone posts to
> the
> mail list address all currently subscribed users receive the posting as
> an email. Optionally the list allows for a moderator to preview and
> accept postings for publication. The email list should also allow for
> open publications where anyone (subscribed or unsubscribed) can post to
> the group, or for closed publication where only subscribed users can
> post.
You are right, it seems we lost the appropriate documentation about this
when releasing the 3.0:
http://james.apache.org/server/2.3.0/mailing_lists.html
Can you check if it is still working? Of course contributing
documentation (and even integration tests) on this feature is very
welcome!
> I would be very surprised (stunned actually, LOL) if the Apache James
> email server is not being used to support this and all the other Apache
> projects mail lists, but I just don't seem to be finding any
> documentation on how to do it with the latest version >3.0 of the James
> server.
Usually there are external software for handling this (Mailman, Sympa
are well known), but it's so easy to handle this with James ^^
Regards,
Raphaël Ouazana.
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Ashton Holmes <ro...@scoopta.ninja>.
Not that this has a lot to do with your question but I've often wondered if this list is run on James.
On October 30, 2018 9:34:56 AM PDT, Marc Chamberlin <ma...@marcchamberlin.com> wrote:
>On 10/30/2018 08:56 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le 2018-10-29 21:41, Marc Chamberlin a écrit :
>>> Hi - I am investigating James and need a mail server that supports
>mail
>>> lists. I cannot seem to find any documentation on how to go about
>>> configuring James (with or without mailets) to support a mail list
>>> service. Can someone point me to the documentation with examples on
>how
>>> to go about this using James version 3.0 or higher. (I also need
>IMAP
>>> support and it appears that earlier versions of James did not
>support
>>> IMAP but did indeed provide support for mail list service. Thanks in
>>> advance...
>>
>> Can you define what you mean by mail list?
>> James 3 allows to create groups (and more generally many thing via
>> recipient rewrite tables).
>> See for example the following API:
>>
>https://james.apache.org/server/manage-webadmin.html#Creating_address_group
>> It allows to create group addresses. When you send an email to a
>group
>> address, it will be sent to every member of this group. Is it what
>you
>> mean by "mail list"?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Raphaël Ouazana.
>
>Hi Raphael, and thanks for replying... What I mean by mail list is
>exactly the same as what is being used here for the James
>server-user@james.apache.org mail list. It is a mail list service run
>on
>the Apache-James server and allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe
>at
>will, or through a moderator(s), to the lists. When someone posts to
>the
>mail list address all currently subscribed users receive the posting as
>an email. Optionally the list allows for a moderator to preview and
>accept postings for publication. The email list should also allow for
>open publications where anyone (subscribed or unsubscribed) can post to
>the group, or for closed publication where only subscribed users can
>post.
>
>I would be very surprised (stunned actually, LOL) if the Apache James
>email server is not being used to support this and all the other Apache
>projects mail lists, but I just don't seem to be finding any
>documentation on how to do it with the latest version >3.0 of the James
>server.
>
> HTHs, Marc.
>
>>
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Marc Chamberlin <ma...@marcchamberlin.com>.
On 10/30/2018 08:56 AM, Raphael OUAZANA wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 2018-10-29 21:41, Marc Chamberlin a écrit :
>> Hi - I am investigating James and need a mail server that supports mail
>> lists. I cannot seem to find any documentation on how to go about
>> configuring James (with or without mailets) to support a mail list
>> service. Can someone point me to the documentation with examples on how
>> to go about this using James version 3.0 or higher. (I also need IMAP
>> support and it appears that earlier versions of James did not support
>> IMAP but did indeed provide support for mail list service. Thanks in
>> advance...
>
> Can you define what you mean by mail list?
> James 3 allows to create groups (and more generally many thing via
> recipient rewrite tables).
> See for example the following API:
> https://james.apache.org/server/manage-webadmin.html#Creating_address_group
> It allows to create group addresses. When you send an email to a group
> address, it will be sent to every member of this group. Is it what you
> mean by "mail list"?
>
> Regards,
> Raphaël Ouazana.
Hi Raphael, and thanks for replying... What I mean by mail list is
exactly the same as what is being used here for the James
server-user@james.apache.org mail list. It is a mail list service run on
the Apache-James server and allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe at
will, or through a moderator(s), to the lists. When someone posts to the
mail list address all currently subscribed users receive the posting as
an email. Optionally the list allows for a moderator to preview and
accept postings for publication. The email list should also allow for
open publications where anyone (subscribed or unsubscribed) can post to
the group, or for closed publication where only subscribed users can post.
I would be very surprised (stunned actually, LOL) if the Apache James
email server is not being used to support this and all the other Apache
projects mail lists, but I just don't seem to be finding any
documentation on how to do it with the latest version >3.0 of the James
server.
HTHs, Marc.
>
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Re: Mail list server?
Posted by Raphael OUAZANA <ra...@linagora.com>.
Hi,
Le 2018-10-29 21:41, Marc Chamberlin a écrit :
> Hi - I am investigating James and need a mail server that supports mail
> lists. I cannot seem to find any documentation on how to go about
> configuring James (with or without mailets) to support a mail list
> service. Can someone point me to the documentation with examples on how
> to go about this using James version 3.0 or higher. (I also need IMAP
> support and it appears that earlier versions of James did not support
> IMAP but did indeed provide support for mail list service. Thanks in
> advance...
Can you define what you mean by mail list?
James 3 allows to create groups (and more generally many thing via
recipient rewrite tables).
See for example the following API:
https://james.apache.org/server/manage-webadmin.html#Creating_address_group
It allows to create group addresses. When you send an email to a group
address, it will be sent to every member of this group. Is it what you
mean by "mail list"?
Regards,
Raphaël Ouazana.
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