RE: XMLSocketHubReceiver available - answer to Scott Deboy e-mail

[Jacob Kjome <ho...@visi.com>]

At 01:04 AM 11/20/2006, you wrote:
 >Does LS or Apache -require- a CLA from one-time submitters?
 >
 >>From http://www.apache.org/licenses/
 >
 >"The ASF desires that all contributors of ideas, code, or
 >documentation to the Apache projects complete, sign, and submit (via
 >snailmail or fax) an Individual Contributor License Agreement (CLA)..."
 >
 >Note the word 'desires'..
 >
 >There is one case where a CLA is required:
 >
 >"A signed CLA is required to be on file before an individual is given
 >commit rights to an ASF project."
 >
 >I'm not sure what other projects do, or if I'm misunderstanding the
 >CLA requirement, but it seems to me that it seems a bit
 >overly-bureaucratic to require a faxed/mailed CLA of one-time
 >contributors (resulting in a corresponding reduction in individual
 >contributions).
 >

But you're not giving him "commit rights".  He's just contributing 
code and you are going to commit it for him, no?  To me, that 
sentence only applies to people like Elias Ross, who we are voting on 
to give commit rights (and he's already signed the CLA).

Jake

 >
 >Scott Deboy
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: Curt Arnold [mailto:carnold@apache.org]
 >Sent: Sun 11/19/2006 8:59 PM
 >To: Log4J Developers List
 >Subject: Re: XMLSocketHubReceiver available - answer to Scott Deboy e-mail
 >
 >Thanks for the contribution.  Please file a bug report at http://
 >issues.apache.org/bugzilla and attach the file there.  Also, check
 >any box that mentions that you are donating the code to Apache
 >Software Foundation (that checkbox might only be present on JIRA).
 >Please also complete a Contributors License Agreement (http://
 >www.apache.org/licenses) and fax or mail to the ASF.
 >
 >
 >
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Re: XMLSocketHubReceiver available - answer to Scott Deboy e-mail

[Curt Arnold <ca...@apache.org>]

> But you're not giving him "commit rights".  He's just contributing  
> code and you are going to commit it for him, no?  To me, that  
> sentence only applies to people like Elias Ross, who we are voting  
> on to give commit rights (and he's already signed the CLA).
>
> Jake

It is more a question of the scope of the contribution, not the  
frequency of contributions.  There is a judgement call as to the  
point an signed CLA is required to accept a contribution.  I had not  
reviewed the patch but that it required an archive and not just a  
simple patch file and its applicability spanned multiple projects  
(log4net, log4j and log4cxx) suggested that it might end up over the  
line into the area that a signed CLA would be justified.  Elias had a  
signed CLA on file since his concurrent appender contribution was of  
sufficient scale that it justified a signed CLA to have his explicit  
statement that the code was his original creation, etc.  In any case,  
a contributor should at least be familiar with the CLA and have no  
objections to it even for the most trivial of contributions even if  
we don't have a CLA on file.

Having the patch attached to a bug report by the original contributor  
is an essential bit of process so that we can effectively track the  
chain of custody of any code in case there are any dispute.  Mailing  
list archives often do not archive attachments and using the bug  
tracking system as the single point for significant code contributions.




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