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Posted to dev@river.apache.org by Nigel Daley <nd...@mac.com> on 2007/03/28 00:05:14 UTC
committers are all listed
Hi Geir,
Looking at http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html
it looks like all the initial committers for River are now
listed.
What is the next step? What are we waiting on?
Many thanks,
Nige
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:05 AM, Mark Brouwer wrote:
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> Just another note that the review of our Incubator
>> Board Report for March (below) raised a question
>> on getting the initial codebase submitted.
>> I think once the committer/PPMC stuff gets set up,
>> we should (finally) be ready to go.
>> -Jim
>> Subject: Incubator March 2007 Board Report
>>> === River ===
>>>
>>> iPMC Reviewers: jukka, yoavs, jim, noel
>> :
>> :
>>> iPMC questions / comments:
>>>
>>> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
>>> submitted.
>>> Any blockers in the process?
:
:
> If I was forced to do so I think we have 2 blockers: the first one is
> that Sun doesn't show a clear sign of putting the code and issues
> at the
> gate (of which I have no doubt they will do eventually)
We (Sun) filed a CCLA Schedule B for River back on January 16.
There were some questions (from Sun legal) and miscommunication
on the some of the other legal things that finally got resolved two
weeks ago. All the Sun initial committers immediately filed ICLAs
and we've been waiting on things getting setup so we could submit
the starter kit and test code.
Just wanted to clarify the situation.
-Jim
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 3/30/07, Jim Hurley <Ji...@sun.com> wrote:
> My hope, though, was that this voting (and related discussion)
> would take place with the actual full initial committers and
> PPMC in place. It would not only assure that actual source
> work could be done once the code is accepted, but also
> would help us feel more integrated into Apache and feeling
> some success working as an initial incubating project.
I very much agree. Let's hope to get the administrative bits out of
the way ASAP, they've been dragging for quite a while already.
> I'd like to get that setup before we submit the starter kit and
> test code. Sooner is better than waiting, though, so if it can't
> be setup relatively quickly, we could move ahead on submitting.
> Again, though, since committers wouldn't actually be setup
> the work that could happen after that would be limited.
I compiled a set of template account requests for all the people who
need the committer accounts. One of the mentors needs to send the
requests for processing, but we can expedite the process by checking
that all the bits of information are correct and in place. Once a
committer request is sent, it normally gets processed in a few days
after which the only remaining piece of action is for a mentor to
grant the required svn karma.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
Thanks for the clarifications, Jukka.
I'm (personally) fine with continuing with the Service UI
vote as started. It's obviously a step in the right direction.
Thanks for getting it started.
My hope, though, was that this voting (and related discussion)
would take place with the actual full initial committers and
PPMC in place. It would not only assure that actual source
work could be done once the code is accepted, but also
would help us feel more integrated into Apache and feeling
some success working as an initial incubating project.
I'd like to get that setup before we submit the starter kit and
test code. Sooner is better than waiting, though, so if it can't
be setup relatively quickly, we could move ahead on submitting.
Again, though, since committers wouldn't actually be setup
the work that could happen after that would be limited.
-Jim
On Mar 30, 2007, at 2:17 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Jim Hurley <Ji...@sun.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> > This shouldn't be blocked by administrational issues in setting
>> up the
>> > committership and the PPMC.
>> [...]
>> I'm unclear on your last statement. Doesn't the PPMC make the final
>> decision on things such as accepting code contributions? Don't we,
>> therefore, need the PPMC setup to accomplishment accepting
>> the code?
>
> Looking at the records it seems that the River PPMC is still just the
> three mentors, but that doesn't stop the community from voting to
> accept the codebase. Only the PPMC members have binding votes, but at
> least to me also any non-binding -1 vote with a reasonable rationale
> would be enough to veto the motion until better consensus is reached.
>
> Of course, if anyone feels strongly that they should have a binding
> vote instead of a non-binding one in this vote, please let me know and
> I'll withdraw the vote until the PPMC has been updated.
>
>> We've been living under the assumption that the initial committers
>> and PPMC need to be setup as Step #1 so we could proceed then
>> proceed with accepting the code (and then, obviously, working on
>> the code).
>
> It probably would be cleaner if you all had already been given commit
> access and made PPMC members by now, but the current status shouldn't
> block things as long as there's wide consensus that the contribution
> should be accepted. Things get trickier if there isn't consensus, in
> which case the actual composition of the PPMC would be more important.
>
>> All of the initial committers from the Proposal have submitted
>> ICLAs...
>> so can't we just get them administratively setup as committers and
>> on the PPMC and really be ready to move forward?
>
> +1, everything seems to be in place for that.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 3/29/07, Jim Hurley <Ji...@sun.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> > This shouldn't be blocked by administrational issues in setting up the
> > committership and the PPMC.
> [...]
> I'm unclear on your last statement. Doesn't the PPMC make the final
> decision on things such as accepting code contributions? Don't we,
> therefore, need the PPMC setup to accomplishment accepting
> the code?
Looking at the records it seems that the River PPMC is still just the
three mentors, but that doesn't stop the community from voting to
accept the codebase. Only the PPMC members have binding votes, but at
least to me also any non-binding -1 vote with a reasonable rationale
would be enough to veto the motion until better consensus is reached.
Of course, if anyone feels strongly that they should have a binding
vote instead of a non-binding one in this vote, please let me know and
I'll withdraw the vote until the PPMC has been updated.
> We've been living under the assumption that the initial committers
> and PPMC need to be setup as Step #1 so we could proceed then
> proceed with accepting the code (and then, obviously, working on
> the code).
It probably would be cleaner if you all had already been given commit
access and made PPMC members by now, but the current status shouldn't
block things as long as there's wide consensus that the contribution
should be accepted. Things get trickier if there isn't consensus, in
which case the actual composition of the PPMC would be more important.
> All of the initial committers from the Proposal have submitted ICLAs...
> so can't we just get them administratively setup as committers and
> on the PPMC and really be ready to move forward?
+1, everything seems to be in place for that.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> >> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
>> >> submitted.
>> >> Any blockers in the process?
>>
>> Any idea who is supposed to answer this?
>>
>> If I was forced to do so I think we have 2 blockers: the first one is
>> that Sun doesn't show a clear sign of putting the code and issues
>> at the
>> gate (of which I have no doubt they will do eventually) and second I
>> feel that we don't get the level of mentoring that this group of
>> people
>> apparently requires and that no action is taken on things that
>> require
>> action.
>
> I'd be happy to lend a hand. What we need is the source code submitted
> as a packaged attachment in a Jira issue and a software grant that
> covers the submitted code. This is a task for Sun and for any other
> parties from whom code will be imported. I can help with the details
> if needed.
>
> This shouldn't be blocked by administrational issues in setting up the
> committership and the PPMC.
Hi Jukka-
I appreciate you getting involved and helping out. Thanks.
I'm unclear on your last statement. Doesn't the PPMC make the final
decision on things such as accepting code contributions? Don't we,
therefore, need the PPMC setup to accomplishment accepting
the code?
We've been living under the assumption that the initial committers
and PPMC need to be setup as Step #1 so we could proceed then
proceed with accepting the code (and then, obviously, working on
the code).
All of the initial committers from the Proposal have submitted ICLAs...
so can't we just get them administratively setup as committers and
on the PPMC and really be ready to move forward?
-Jim
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Juan Ramirez <Ju...@Sun.COM>.
Jukka Zitting wrote On 03/31/07 00:01,:
>
> Preferred userid: ?
1st choice: ramirjf
2nd choice: juan
> Full name: Juan Ramirez
> Forwarding email address: juan.ramirez@sun.com
>
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org>.
Oops forgot to mention the alternative.
Preferred userid: marbro
Alternative userid: markbrouwer
--
Mark
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org>.
Thanks Jukka,
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Mark Brouwer
> Forwarding email address: mark.brouwer@cheiron.org
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
Preferred userid: marbro
Also I would like to take the opportunity to bring this posting under
your attention Jukka, we haven't had an answer yet:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200701.mbox/%3c9890BC2F-2EC9-498E-9F3B-512E97CA8E74@mac.com%3e
and follow up by Jim Hurley
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200701.mbox/%3cA669A5AD-4716-4600-B88A-D872B9D4CEA3@sun.com%3e
For any details about what is required I think Nigel can answer any
question.
--
Mark
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Fred Oliver <Fr...@Sun.COM>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Fred Oliver
> Forwarding email address: fred.oliver@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
Preferred userid: foliver
Alternate userid : fko
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Robert Resendes <Ro...@Sun.COM>.
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Robert Resendes
> Forwarding email address: robert.resendes@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
>
Preferred userid : resendes
Alternate userid : rresendes
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by John McClain <Jo...@Sun.COM>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: John McClain
> Forwarding email address: john.mcclain@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
Preferred userid : pdp8
Alternate userid : jmcclain
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Bob Scheifler <Bo...@Sun.COM>.
> Full name: Robert Scheifler
> Forwarding email address: bob.scheifler@sun.com
Preferred userid: rscheifler
need for alternate is improbable unless Rinaldo Bodega is impersonating me ;-)
- Bob
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Dan Creswell <da...@dcrdev.demon.co.uk>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
>> > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
>> > no feedback on the status of these.
>>
>> I'll check the current status.
>
> Unfortunately the committer accounts do not exist yet. To expedite the
> process I compiled a set of account request templates for all the
> people who need the committer accounts. The request templates are
> below, see http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter for the
> background.
>
> Please check that your information is correct. I matched the list of
> initial committers in the River proposal against the information on
> received ICLAs to the best of my ability, but I'm only human so errors
> may have crept in.
>
> The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
> will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
> user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
> please check for collisions against the current accounts at
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html. You should also give an
> acceptable alternative in case there's a last-minute collision against
> some concurrent account request.
>
> NOTE: There is already a committer account for another Peter Jones
> (userid peterjones). He's a committer for the Apache CXF project. I
> assume this is a separate person.
>
> NOTE: Nigel Daley already has a committer account (userid nigel), with
> commit access to the Apache Hadoop project. He only needs the extra
> karma for River.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Dan Creswell
> Forwarding email address: dan@dcrdev.demon.co.uk
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
First choice userid: dancres
Second choice: dancres1969
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Vinod Johnson - Sun Microsystems <Th...@Sun.COM>.
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Thomas Johnson
> Forwarding email address: thomas.johnson@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> ----
First choice - vinod
Second choice - vinodjohnson
--
- vinod
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
Preferred userid: jhurley
Alt: jimhurley
2nd Alt: ziggyhurley (don't ask ;-))
Full name: Jim Hurley
Forwarding email address: jim.hurley@sun.com
Thank you, Jukka, for getting this started.
-Jim
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Peter Jones <pe...@sun.com>.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 08:01:20AM +0300, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> Please check that your information is correct. I matched the list of
> initial committers in the River proposal against the information on
> received ICLAs to the best of my ability, but I'm only human so errors
> may have crept in.
>
> The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
> will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
> user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
> please check for collisions against the current accounts at
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html. You should also give an
> acceptable alternative in case there's a last-minute collision against
> some concurrent account request.
>
> NOTE: There is already a committer account for another Peter Jones
> (userid peterjones). He's a committer for the Apache CXF project. I
> assume this is a separate person.
Correct, that's not me.
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Peter Jones
> Forwarding email address: peter.jones@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
Preferred userid: peter.jones
Alternate userid: peter_jones
I am assuming that "." is an allowed character because there is
already (exactly) one userid on the above-referenced committers page
with a "." (grant.monroe). There are a few more with underscores, so
I gather if "." is not OK, then "_" is OK as an alternative.
My preference is "peter.jones" just because I already (for better or
for worse) created my JIRA account at issues.apache.org with that user
name (after having discovered the existing account for "peterjones").
Thanks,
-- Peter
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Bill Venners <bv...@artima.com>.
first choice userid: bvenners
second choice: billvenners
third choice: takemetotheriverdipmeinthewater
On Mar 31, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Jim Waldo wrote:
> first choice userid: waldo
> second choice: jimwaldo
>
> On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 3/29/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
>>> > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers,
>>> but so far
>>> > no feedback on the status of these.
>>>
>>> I'll check the current status.
>>
>> Unfortunately the committer accounts do not exist yet. To expedite
>> the
>> process I compiled a set of account request templates for all the
>> people who need the committer accounts. The request templates are
>> below, see http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter for the
>> background.
>>
>> Please check that your information is correct. I matched the list of
>> initial committers in the River proposal against the information on
>> received ICLAs to the best of my ability, but I'm only human so
>> errors
>> may have crept in.
>>
>> The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
>> will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
>> user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
>> please check for collisions against the current accounts at
>> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html. You should also
>> give an
>> acceptable alternative in case there's a last-minute collision
>> against
>> some concurrent account request.
>>
>> NOTE: There is already a committer account for another Peter Jones
>> (userid peterjones). He's a committer for the Apache CXF project. I
>> assume this is a separate person.
>>
>> NOTE: Nigel Daley already has a committer account (userid nigel),
>> with
>> commit access to the Apache Hadoop project. He only needs the extra
>> karma for River.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Dan Creswell
>> Forwarding email address: dan@dcrdev.demon.co.uk
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Howard Venners
>> Forwarding email address: bv@artima.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Mark Brouwer
>> Forwarding email address: mark.brouwer@cheiron.org
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Robert Scheifler
>> Forwarding email address: bob.scheifler@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: James Waldo
>> Forwarding email address: jim.waldo@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: John McClain
>> Forwarding email address: john.mcclain@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Brian Murphy
>> Forwarding email address: brian.t.murphy@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Peter Jones
>> Forwarding email address: peter.jones@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> NOTE: There is already another committer named Peter Jones (userid
>> peterjones). This Peter Jones is a separate person.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Juan Ramirez
>> Forwarding email address: juan.ramirez@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Frank Barnaby
>> Forwarding email address: frank.barnaby@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Fred Oliver
>> Forwarding email address: fred.oliver@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Robert Resendes
>> Forwarding email address: robert.resendes@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Thomas Johnson
>> Forwarding email address: thomas.johnson@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Ronald Mann
>> Forwarding email address: ron.mann@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Preferred userid: ?
>> Full name: Jim Hurley
>> Forwarding email address: jim.hurley@sun.com
>>
>> Requested UNIX groups:
>>
>> Vote:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
>> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>>
>> ----
>
>
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Waldo <Ji...@sun.com>.
first choice userid: waldo
second choice: jimwaldo
On Mar 31, 2007, at 1:01 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
>> > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but
>> so far
>> > no feedback on the status of these.
>>
>> I'll check the current status.
>
> Unfortunately the committer accounts do not exist yet. To expedite the
> process I compiled a set of account request templates for all the
> people who need the committer accounts. The request templates are
> below, see http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter for the
> background.
>
> Please check that your information is correct. I matched the list of
> initial committers in the River proposal against the information on
> received ICLAs to the best of my ability, but I'm only human so errors
> may have crept in.
>
> The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
> will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
> user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
> please check for collisions against the current accounts at
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html. You should also give an
> acceptable alternative in case there's a last-minute collision against
> some concurrent account request.
>
> NOTE: There is already a committer account for another Peter Jones
> (userid peterjones). He's a committer for the Apache CXF project. I
> assume this is a separate person.
>
> NOTE: Nigel Daley already has a committer account (userid nigel), with
> commit access to the Apache Hadoop project. He only needs the extra
> karma for River.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Dan Creswell
> Forwarding email address: dan@dcrdev.demon.co.uk
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Howard Venners
> Forwarding email address: bv@artima.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Mark Brouwer
> Forwarding email address: mark.brouwer@cheiron.org
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Robert Scheifler
> Forwarding email address: bob.scheifler@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: James Waldo
> Forwarding email address: jim.waldo@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: John McClain
> Forwarding email address: john.mcclain@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Brian Murphy
> Forwarding email address: brian.t.murphy@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Peter Jones
> Forwarding email address: peter.jones@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> NOTE: There is already another committer named Peter Jones (userid
> peterjones). This Peter Jones is a separate person.
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Juan Ramirez
> Forwarding email address: juan.ramirez@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Frank Barnaby
> Forwarding email address: frank.barnaby@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Fred Oliver
> Forwarding email address: fred.oliver@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Robert Resendes
> Forwarding email address: robert.resendes@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Thomas Johnson
> Forwarding email address: thomas.johnson@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Ronald Mann
> Forwarding email address: ron.mann@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
>
> Preferred userid: ?
> Full name: Jim Hurley
> Forwarding email address: jim.hurley@sun.com
>
> Requested UNIX groups:
>
> Vote:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
>
> ----
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by John McClain <Jo...@Sun.COM>.
Brian Murphy wrote:
> By the way, thanks for all the support you've been giving
> to the project.
+1
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Brian Murphy <bt...@gmail.com>.
On 3/31/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately the committer accounts do not exist yet. To expedite the
> process I compiled a set of account request templates for all the
> people who need the committer accounts. The request templates are
> below,
> Please check that your information is correct.
> The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
> will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
> user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
> please check for collisions against the current accounts at
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html.
Hi Jukka,
I checked for name collisons and found none. But
there is a correction necessary in my forwarding e-mail
address.
By the way, thanks for all the support you've been giving
to the project.
Regards,
Brian Murphy
> Preferred userid: btmurphy
> Alternative userid: btmurphy.alt
> Full name: Brian Murphy
> Corrected forwarding email address: btmurphy.alt@gmail.com
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 3/29/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
> > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
> > no feedback on the status of these.
>
> I'll check the current status.
Unfortunately the committer accounts do not exist yet. To expedite the
process I compiled a set of account request templates for all the
people who need the committer accounts. The request templates are
below, see http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter for the
background.
Please check that your information is correct. I matched the list of
initial committers in the River proposal against the information on
received ICLAs to the best of my ability, but I'm only human so errors
may have crept in.
The account request template also asks for a preferred userid. This
will be your svn and unix user account and the user part of your
user@apache.org email address. You can select a preferred userid, but
please check for collisions against the current accounts at
http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html. You should also give an
acceptable alternative in case there's a last-minute collision against
some concurrent account request.
NOTE: There is already a committer account for another Peter Jones
(userid peterjones). He's a committer for the Apache CXF project. I
assume this is a separate person.
NOTE: Nigel Daley already has a committer account (userid nigel), with
commit access to the Apache Hadoop project. He only needs the extra
karma for River.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Dan Creswell
Forwarding email address: dan@dcrdev.demon.co.uk
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Howard Venners
Forwarding email address: bv@artima.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Mark Brouwer
Forwarding email address: mark.brouwer@cheiron.org
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Robert Scheifler
Forwarding email address: bob.scheifler@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: James Waldo
Forwarding email address: jim.waldo@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: John McClain
Forwarding email address: john.mcclain@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Brian Murphy
Forwarding email address: brian.t.murphy@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Peter Jones
Forwarding email address: peter.jones@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
NOTE: There is already another committer named Peter Jones (userid
peterjones). This Peter Jones is a separate person.
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Juan Ramirez
Forwarding email address: juan.ramirez@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Frank Barnaby
Forwarding email address: frank.barnaby@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Fred Oliver
Forwarding email address: fred.oliver@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Robert Resendes
Forwarding email address: robert.resendes@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Thomas Johnson
Forwarding email address: thomas.johnson@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Ronald Mann
Forwarding email address: ron.mann@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Preferred userid: ?
Full name: Jim Hurley
Forwarding email address: jim.hurley@sun.com
Requested UNIX groups:
Vote:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200612.mbox/%3cBD0C8D42-60D9-4242-AD33-2692F869667E@pobox.com%3e
----
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Ronald J Mann <Ro...@Sun.COM>.
rjmann would suffice for me. Alternately, tailwagger. Address is correct.
Phil Steitz wrote On 04/05/07 10:44,:
>We are still missing preferred IDs for:
>
> * Frank Barnaby (frank.barnaby@sun.com)
> * Ron Mann (ron.mann@sun.com)
>
>If you guys will send along preferred and alternate userIDs and
>verify the forwarding addresses, I will submit these account requests.
> Thanks!
>
>Phil
>
>
>
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
We are still missing preferred IDs for:
* Frank Barnaby (frank.barnaby@sun.com)
* Ron Mann (ron.mann@sun.com)
If you guys will send along preferred and alternate userIDs and
verify the forwarding addresses, I will submit these account requests.
Thanks!
Phil
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
> > > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
> > > no feedback on the status of these.
> >
> > I'll check the current status.
> >
>
> I will go ahead and resubmit root requests this eve, after checking to
> see if any of these have already been created
>
Done.
Phil
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Bob Scheifler <Bo...@Sun.COM>.
Phil Steitz wrote:
>> I will go ahead and resubmit root requests this eve, after checking to
>> see if any of these have already been created
>>
> Done.
Thanks!
- Bob
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
> >
>
> I will go ahead and resubmit root requests this eve, after checking to
> see if any of these have already been created
>
Done.
Phil
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
On 3/29/07, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
> > For another contribution, namely ServiceUI, the code has been submitted
> > already a long time ago and is attached to
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-10. This posting
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200701.mbox/%3c68E32F29-CEAC-468D-BAAA-7C00AAB1999D@pobox.com%3e
> > indicates that 2 months ago the idea was that one of the mentors should
> > initiate this vote, as of today no action took place. Also we agreed the
> > initial PPMC would be composed of the initial committers list (that
> > includes the mentors IIRC).
>
> Let's take up from where things were left; I just posted the vote call. :-)
>
> I quickly checked the software grant and CCLA records but couldn't see
> an entry from Artima. Was it already submitted and I just missed it,
> or is it still needed?
I just checked again and can't find either a CCLA or grant covering
the Artima contribution. Probably best to resubmit. This can now be
done via email (of scanned doc):
>
> > IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
> > no feedback on the status of these.
>
> I'll check the current status.
>
I will go ahead and resubmit root requests this eve, after checking to
see if any of these have already been created
Phil
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
> For another contribution, namely ServiceUI, the code has been submitted
> already a long time ago and is attached to
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-10. This posting
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200701.mbox/%3c68E32F29-CEAC-468D-BAAA-7C00AAB1999D@pobox.com%3e
> indicates that 2 months ago the idea was that one of the mentors should
> initiate this vote, as of today no action took place. Also we agreed the
> initial PPMC would be composed of the initial committers list (that
> includes the mentors IIRC).
Let's take up from where things were left; I just posted the vote call. :-)
I quickly checked the software grant and CCLA records but couldn't see
an entry from Artima. Was it already submitted and I just missed it,
or is it still needed?
> IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
> no feedback on the status of these.
I'll check the current status.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> >> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
>> >> submitted.
>> >> Any blockers in the process?
>>
>> Any idea who is supposed to answer this?
>>
>> If I was forced to do so I think we have 2 blockers: the first one is
>> that Sun doesn't show a clear sign of putting the code and issues at the
>> gate (of which I have no doubt they will do eventually) and second I
>> feel that we don't get the level of mentoring that this group of people
>> apparently requires and that no action is taken on things that require
>> action.
>
> I'd be happy to lend a hand. What we need is the source code submitted
> as a packaged attachment in a Jira issue and a software grant that
> covers the submitted code. This is a task for Sun and for any other
> parties from whom code will be imported. I can help with the details
> if needed.
For another contribution, namely ServiceUI, the code has been submitted
already a long time ago and is attached to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-10. This posting
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-river-dev/200701.mbox/%3c68E32F29-CEAC-468D-BAAA-7C00AAB1999D@pobox.com%3e
indicates that 2 months ago the idea was that one of the mentors should
initiate this vote, as of today no action took place. Also we agreed the
initial PPMC would be composed of the initial committers list (that
includes the mentors IIRC).
IIRC Geir requested accounts for all the initial committers, but so far
no feedback on the status of these.
> This shouldn't be blocked by administrational issues in setting up the
> committership and the PPMC.
Thanks for helping out where you can Jukka,
--
Mark
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 3/29/07, Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org> wrote:
> Jim Hurley wrote:
> >> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
> >> submitted.
> >> Any blockers in the process?
>
> Any idea who is supposed to answer this?
>
> If I was forced to do so I think we have 2 blockers: the first one is
> that Sun doesn't show a clear sign of putting the code and issues at the
> gate (of which I have no doubt they will do eventually) and second I
> feel that we don't get the level of mentoring that this group of people
> apparently requires and that no action is taken on things that require
> action.
I'd be happy to lend a hand. What we need is the source code submitted
as a packaged attachment in a Jira issue and a software grant that
covers the submitted code. This is a task for Sun and for any other
parties from whom code will be imported. I can help with the details
if needed.
This shouldn't be blocked by administrational issues in setting up the
committership and the PPMC.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Mark Brouwer <ma...@cheiron.org>.
Jim Hurley wrote:
> Just another note that the review of our Incubator
> Board Report for March (below) raised a question
> on getting the initial codebase submitted.
>
> I think once the committer/PPMC stuff gets set up,
> we should (finally) be ready to go.
>
> -Jim
>
> Subject: Incubator March 2007 Board Report
>> === River ===
>>
>> iPMC Reviewers: jukka, yoavs, jim, noel
> :
> :
>> iPMC questions / comments:
>>
>> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
>> submitted.
>> Any blockers in the process?
Any idea who is supposed to answer this?
If I was forced to do so I think we have 2 blockers: the first one is
that Sun doesn't show a clear sign of putting the code and issues at the
gate (of which I have no doubt they will do eventually) and second I
feel that we don't get the level of mentoring that this group of people
apparently requires and that no action is taken on things that require
action.
If I had to pick a metaphor it reminds me of a school party of 10
year old kids where the girls try to get the boys on the dancing floor,
except that there is a shortage of girls here ...
No offense intended, but it is kind of frustrating for me in my Elvis suit.
--
Mark
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
Just another note that the review of our Incubator
Board Report for March (below) raised a question
on getting the initial codebase submitted.
I think once the committer/PPMC stuff gets set up,
we should (finally) be ready to go.
-Jim
Subject: Incubator March 2007 Board Report
> === River ===
>
> iPMC Reviewers: jukka, yoavs, jim, noel
:
:
> iPMC questions / comments:
>
> * jukka: It's taking some time for the initial codebases to be
> submitted.
> Any blockers in the process?
Re: committers are all listed
Posted by Jim Hurley <Ji...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Nige-
Yes - we're all set with all the initial committers/PPMC
members having submitted the ICLAs.
Geir is (I hope) in the process of setting up the accounts,
mailing lists, etc. so we can get going.
-Jim
On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Nigel Daley wrote:
> Hi Geir,
>
> Looking at http://people.apache.org/~jim/committers.html
> it looks like all the initial committers for River are now
> listed.
>
> What is the next step? What are we waiting on?
>
> Many thanks,
> Nige