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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> on 2014/05/23 16:59:26 UTC
[FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Hi all,
I would like to take a look at what it would take to start implementing the
FlatSpark theme in FlexJS. You can have a look at this theme here:
https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
As you can see it is released under the Apache 2.0 license. Am I correct in
thinking that (especially with the blessing of the designer) we can "just"
implement the theme in FlexJS (with proper documentation, of course)?
If so, Om, will you help me get under way with FXG -> SVG to try and
implement this in a forward looking, extensible way?
Thanks,
EdB
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Well, yes, you can start using FlatSpark as an external dependency now, but you should probably not take its sources or modification of its sources and put it in our repo without permission of all of the contributors to it. It sounds like there is more than one contributor.
-Alex
From: Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>>
Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:59 AM
To: "dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>" <de...@flex.apache.org>>, aharui <ah...@adobe.com>>, "OmPrakash Muppirala (Om)" <bi...@gmail.com>>, "muddibr@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>" <mu...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Hi all,
I would like to take a look at what it would take to start implementing the FlatSpark theme in FlexJS. You can have a look at this theme here:
https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
As you can see it is released under the Apache 2.0 license. Am I correct in thinking that (especially with the blessing of the designer) we can "just" implement the theme in FlexJS (with proper documentation, of course)?
If so, Om, will you help me get under way with FXG -> SVG to try and implement this in a forward looking, extensible way?
Thanks,
EdB
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl<http://www.ixsoftware.nl>
RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
I agree there is a lot of work to be done for Flex/Mobile, but our customers
ask for a better skin in our Flex applications.
We don't think this should replace the current theme for Flex, it should
come as an option, in fact, we are commited to doing this as one of the
guidelines
<https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/wiki/How-to-use-FlatSpark-in-your-project>
of the project.
Yes, we think it would be a great "selling point" if the themes were shared,
as that would be a more smooth transiction from Flex to FlexJS.
Do you think this theme should be the default theme for FlexJS?
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by brunopacola <br...@gmail.com>.
Good news!. The psd is ready: http://bootflat.github.io/free-psd.html
<http://bootflat.github.io/free-psd.html>
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> For FlexJS, I think all we want at this point is a PSD in a version that
> can be used to generated FXG if we want to. Or we'll take FXG and bitmaps.
>
>
Actually, an Illustrator file would be best, if that is possible. If not,
PSD is fine.
Thanks,
Om
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 5/23/14 10:46 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Does the roadmap for the FlatSpark includes providing a way to skin all
> >>UI
> >components of Flex?
> >
> >Yes, we are designing it with the option to change all the skins at once,
> >if
> >wanted by the developer.
> >
> >> Regarding the FlexJS + Flex sharing the same theme, I was rather on the
> >> "design" and artwork level, rather
> >> than the implementation.
> >> But maybe there is something to do at the implementation level too, or
> >> even the compiler.
> >> I thing we will see when starting working on it.
> >
> >I agree, we also meant on the design level. We are not familiar with the
> >way
> >FlexJS work internally right now, so I guess we should talk about how this
> >could arranged so the portability to FlexJS can be more smooth.
> >We are defining skins primarily for the Spark components, but we also have
> >some custom components.
> >For example, we have ButtonSkin (which uses Spark), but we also have
> >ButtonIconSkin (custom component), which inherits from Button but has
> >custom
> >parameters, like an FontAwesome (which is a dependency) text to render it
> >as
> >an icon.
> >
> >What you think about these custom components (ToggleSwitch, TextInputIcon,
> >etc.)? They are not default Spark components right now (at least not on
> >the
> >web version). Should this be separated as some kind of "extensions" or
> >would
> >this be incorporated too?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
For FlexJS, I think all we want at this point is a PSD in a version that
can be used to generated FXG if we want to. Or we'll take FXG and bitmaps.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 5/23/14 10:46 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Does the roadmap for the FlatSpark includes providing a way to skin all
>>UI
>components of Flex?
>
>Yes, we are designing it with the option to change all the skins at once,
>if
>wanted by the developer.
>
>> Regarding the FlexJS + Flex sharing the same theme, I was rather on the
>> "design" and artwork level, rather
>> than the implementation.
>> But maybe there is something to do at the implementation level too, or
>> even the compiler.
>> I thing we will see when starting working on it.
>
>I agree, we also meant on the design level. We are not familiar with the
>way
>FlexJS work internally right now, so I guess we should talk about how this
>could arranged so the portability to FlexJS can be more smooth.
>We are defining skins primarily for the Spark components, but we also have
>some custom components.
>For example, we have ButtonSkin (which uses Spark), but we also have
>ButtonIconSkin (custom component), which inherits from Button but has
>custom
>parameters, like an FontAwesome (which is a dependency) text to render it
>as
>an icon.
>
>What you think about these custom components (ToggleSwitch, TextInputIcon,
>etc.)? They are not default Spark components right now (at least not on
>the
>web version). Should this be separated as some kind of "extensions" or
>would
>this be incorporated too?
>
>
>
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>http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/FlexJS-Use-FlatSpark-
>as-theme-for-FlexJS-tp37721p37738.html
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
>Does the roadmap for the FlatSpark includes providing a way to skin all UI
components of Flex?
Yes, we are designing it with the option to change all the skins at once, if
wanted by the developer.
> Regarding the FlexJS + Flex sharing the same theme, I was rather on the
> "design" and artwork level, rather
> than the implementation.
> But maybe there is something to do at the implementation level too, or
> even the compiler.
> I thing we will see when starting working on it.
I agree, we also meant on the design level. We are not familiar with the way
FlexJS work internally right now, so I guess we should talk about how this
could arranged so the portability to FlexJS can be more smooth.
We are defining skins primarily for the Spark components, but we also have
some custom components.
For example, we have ButtonSkin (which uses Spark), but we also have
ButtonIconSkin (custom component), which inherits from Button but has custom
parameters, like an FontAwesome (which is a dependency) text to render it as
an icon.
What you think about these custom components (ToggleSwitch, TextInputIcon,
etc.)? They are not default Spark components right now (at least not on the
web version). Should this be separated as some kind of "extensions" or would
this be incorporated too?
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Angelo Anolin <an...@gmail.com>.
Does the roadmap for the FlatSpark includes providing a way to skin all UI
components of Flex?
I think it would be really good if there's just a simple way to toggle
between the default spark theme and the flat theme when building the
application.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM, brunopacola <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Maurice,
>
> I'm not familiar with this iOS7+Android theme made by Om. Where can I find
> more information about this?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
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RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
See other thread on users list called " IOS 7 and Android 4.3 Skinning".
[1]
https://github.com/apache/flex-sdk/tree/new_android_skins/frameworks/projects/mobiletheme/src/spark/skins/android4
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Objet : RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Hi Maurice,
I'm not familiar with this iOS7+Android theme made by Om. Where can I find more information about this?
Thank you!
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RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by brunopacola <br...@gmail.com>.
Hi Maurice,
I'm not familiar with this iOS7+Android theme made by Om. Where can I find
more information about this?
Thank you!
-----
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FlatSpark Skin: http://akamud.github.io/FlatSpark
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RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
>Why is that? Seems like we could just have more choices for folks.
Of course. Sorry I didn't use the right word.
By "merge", I meant that since iOS7+Android are also skins, and iOS7 is also flat design,
then we should consider all these skinning work as a whole, and not as separate initiatives and maybe share some work or thoughts.
Makes sense ?
>- would it replace current spark default theme, or come as an option ?
>I would vote for 'option'
OK
Regarding the FlexJS + Flex sharing the same theme, I was rather on the "design" and artwork level, rather than the implementation.
But maybe there is something to do at the implementation level too, or even the compiler.
I thing we will see when starting working on it .
Thank you for the answers.
Maurice
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Envoyé : vendredi 23 mai 2014 18:35
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Objet : Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
On 5/23/14 8:45 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com> wrote:
>Also, it would need to be "merged" with the current work done on
>iOS7+Android by Om.
Why is that? Seems like we could just have more choices for folks.
>
>Questions:
>- would it replace current spark default theme, or come as an option ?
I would vote for 'option'
>- are you ok with FlexJS and Flex sharing the same theme?
It would be interesting to see if the theme can be designed for both. We do want to know what we can use from existing themes "as-is". The first concern that pops into my head is all of the Spark class dependencies in the MXML Skins. Not sure what the impact would be of having those definitions around when compiling/linking a FlexJS app. Theoretically it should work. Or maybe we'll modify Falcon so it does work.
Some themes in current Flex do not appear to be SWCs full of MXML skins.
I've never bothered to look to see how those work, but that might make it easier to have the theme work for both Flex and FlexJS.
-Alex
Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 5/23/14 8:45 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com> wrote:
>Also, it would need to be "merged" with the current work done on
>iOS7+Android by Om.
Why is that? Seems like we could just have more choices for folks.
>
>Questions:
>- would it replace current spark default theme, or come as an option ?
I would vote for 'option'
>- are you ok with FlexJS and Flex sharing the same theme?
It would be interesting to see if the theme can be designed for both. We
do want to know what we can use from existing themes "as-is". The first
concern that pops into my head is all of the Spark class dependencies in
the MXML Skins. Not sure what the impact would be of having those
definitions around when compiling/linking a FlexJS app. Theoretically it
should work. Or maybe we'll modify Falcon so it does work.
Some themes in current Flex do not appear to be SWCs full of MXML skins.
I've never bothered to look to see how those work, but that might make it
easier to have the theme work for both Flex and FlexJS.
-Alex
RE: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
Agree.
I think that "regular" Flex would deserve a new Flat design as well.
However, since Flex includes much more components, and also the mobile theme, we shouldn't underestimate the work to be done.
Also, it would need to be "merged" with the current work done on iOS7+Android by Om.
Questions:
- would it replace current spark default theme, or come as an option ?
- are you ok with FlexJS and Flex sharing the same theme?
WDYT?
Maurice
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I am available to help with anything you need. I'm one of the creators of FlatSpark along with akamud and we are very happy with the feedback from everyone. This week has been very hectic!
On the subject of Bootflat for Flex, besides supporting FlexJS, the theme should support the current compiler as well. I see that this is important because it is a way to keep developers excited about the Flex technology.
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Re: [FlexJS] Use FlatSpark as theme for FlexJS
Posted by brunopacola <br...@gmail.com>.
I am available to help with anything you need. I'm one of the creators of
FlatSpark along with akamud and we are very happy with the feedback from
everyone. This week has been very hectic!
On the subject of Bootflat for Flex, besides supporting FlexJS, the theme
should support the current compiler as well. I see that this is important
because it is a way to keep developers excited about the Flex technology.
-----
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FlatSpark Skin: http://akamud.github.io/FlatSpark
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